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Topic: 0 degree orb
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 04:06 AM
Synastry with less than 1*Mercury square Neptune Pluto square Moon Saturn sextile North Node Pluto opposite Chiron South Node conjunct Mars Lilith opposite Neptune Juno sextile Uranus Juno square Pallas Moon conjunct Valentine Valentine conjuct IC With this snap-shot, Lucia, what do you think about these 2 people? I like this idea, btw! IP: Logged |
LanaofAugust Knowflake Posts: 210 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 04:40 AM
I repeat myself, I know, but I think it is important to note that it is quite possible to have natal charts where none of the aspects are tight. My 0 deg aspects are: Sun (5 deg Virgo) sextile Mars (5 deg Scorpio) AND Sun quadrate Neptune (0,00 deg...). (These aspects involve personal planets, I didn't include aspects involving only social&generational planets nor asteroids).
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted July 07, 2009 04:48 AM
SO interesting Lucia! my natal: venus semi sextile mars moon conjunct saturn moon conjunct NN jupiter sexi sextile uranus (chart ruler) jupiter square neptune uranus sextile neptune pluto sesiquadrate sun NN conjunct saturn sun square AC saturn quintile AC pluto sesiquadrate AC synastry with gun man sun opposes jupiter sun square neptune venus sesiquadrate jupiter venus semi square neptune saturn semi square chiron neptune sesiquadrate saturn chiron semi sextile mercury karma square eros persephone conjunct saturn valentine trine aphoridte amor square destinn sun square AC karma square AC AC opposing AC IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 07:53 AM
Lucia,I have doing this myself some time ago, just looking at zero degree aspects, but somehow other things came to the forefront and I got distracted from that. So thank you for reminding me again. Now, I got to sink my teeth in this again. What minor aspects do you use btw?
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aerialcircus Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Western Massachusetts, US Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 09:29 AM
I hope Lucia doesn't mind me injecting a bit, but; I only got four hours of sleep last night and am now on my fourth cup of coffee! Those Valentine conjunctions jump out at me as being very romantic, particularly Moon/Valentine. I've seen that aspect listed elsewhere as being an indicator of a happy, emotionally healthy relationship, and having it so tight can only strengthen that. South Node conjunctions usually show a place where you feel like "home" to each other, very familiar energy and so a somewhat effortless understanding by the SN person of the Mars person's actions. However, the SN may feel that the other's Marsian themes (action, conflict, sex, passion) are holding them back from moving forward. w/ Moon Square Pluto I see some emotional outbursts, possibly related to the Moon person's inability to control their emotions around the Pluto person. I have this natally and it's a doozy. It seems to me that it's a "reliance vs. destruction" conflict, though I'm not sure how it would express with Moon/Valentine also taken into consideration. IP: Logged |
aerialcircus Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Western Massachusetts, US Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 09:39 AM
Lara, wow! Your 0 aspects are so dreamy yet action oriented! How do you handle the Sun Square Asc / Saturn quintile Asc dichotomy? Do you ever feel that it's easier for others to see the "Saturn" in you than your true Sun?And with the synastry, I would love to hear more about this relationship! Particularly the Karma Square Eros aspect of it (I've never seen this discussed before). It seems very yin/yang, lots of working together. I've read that Venus square or semi-square Neptune in synastry shows a relationship where both partners attempt to be very "real" to each other, and strive to ensure their relationship is not selfish or grounded in too much idealism. Does that ring true for you at all? IP: Logged |
aerialcircus Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Western Massachusetts, US Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 09:42 AM
LanaofAugust, that is definitely true. The Libra I mentioned earlier actually only has two aspects in the 0 orb himself, and they're both minor aspects to generational planets.I'm inclined to think that not having many *incredibly* tight aspects (especially natally) would actually be a blessing of a sort. What does everyone else think? IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 10:28 AM
(I only listed the ones with the main planets, and then the most interesting ones here)Natal Aspects: - Sun square Neptune - T_T - Moon conjunct BML - evilness?? - Mercury trine Uranus - intelligence?? XD - Amor trine Jupiter, oppose Vertex - love that is warm and joyful, that comes surprisingly? Kinda true~ XD - Chiron quincux Pluto - oh the joy~ - Juno quincunx Mars; - Valentine conjunct IC, square AC - a lover that feels like family? Kinda true too~ XP Synastry:
- my Mars quincunx his Venus (8th ruler); - my Saturn (5th ruler) sextile his Mars; - his Saturn (12th ruler) bi-quintile my Sun (12th ruler); - his Saturn (12th ruler) square my Jupiter (MC/Vertex ruler) - haaate~!! - his Mercury (IC/DC/Vertex/NN ruler) conjunct my Valentine/IC - looove~!! - his Mercury (IC/DC/Vertex/NN ruler) square my AC; - his Vertex square my Uranus; - my Juno conjunct his Venus; - his Eros quincunx my BML; - his Karma conjunct my Lust; - my Union sextile his Valentine; - his Union square my Valentine; - his Union conjunct my AC; - my Destinn conjunct his MC; IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 10:45 AM
ZERO aspects in my natal:Sun conjunct Mercury Venus trine Lilith Mars sextile MC Saturn trine Juno (the most exact aspect) Uranus sextile Vesta Neptune sextile Pluto Neptune conjunct NN Neptune square Ceres Neptune sextile Pallas Pluto quinkunx Ceres Pluto trine Pallas Ceres square NN Pallas sextile NN Chiron square Eros Vertex conjunct Eros Juno square Karma Lilith square ASC Moon quinkunx Saturn Moon semisextile Juno Moon semisquare Vesta Mercury semisquare Pallas Venus semisextile Mars Venus semisextile ASC Mars sesisquare Chiron Mars sesisquare Eros (Mars opposes the midpoin Chiron/Eros exact) SAturn semisextile Karma Saturn sesisquare Amor Uranus seisquare Juno Uranus semisextile Amor Pluto quinkunx Ceres Pluto sesisquare Psyche Vertex semisquare Lilith Ceres semisextile Pallas Vesta semisextile Amor ERos semisquare Lilith
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DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 2265 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 10:53 AM
i only have jupiter opposite uranus venus square neptune
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 11:13 AM
Wow, DD, Neptune exactly on your NN--that must be interesting!I do think that unless you have NO 0 degree aspects, you can do a "snapshot" portrait--it's like using one tarot card for a reading instead of 37 tarot cards--you can do a full reading either way. It makes sense to just look at the 0 degree aspects that do show up...it also makes sense, if you have NO 0 degree aspects between your main planets, to look carefully at outer planets and asteroid connections...if a generational aspect (Uranus square Neptune, or whatever) is your only natal aspect at a narrow orb, you may feel it more prominantly as a part of your personality than someone who has a 0 degree natal Sun-Venus conjunction, Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, and Sun-Jupiter square too. Like I said, it's not a substitute for a thorough reading--just a fascinating exercise and a good way to get perspective on the aspects. (Re: aspects--I've been using all of the minor aspects that are calculated by astro.com.) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 11:23 AM
Two thoughts I had:1. look for the TIGHTEST aspects, even out of the 00 degree range. 2. it is telling if you do not have exact aspects, it means various parts of your personality are not too tightly interwoven,w hich could be helpful to keep an objective perspective.
Also, If you have no aspects within, let`s say 2 degrees, it means that transits will not hit major complexes SIMULTANEOUSLY. For example: My Moon is exactly aspecting, Saturn, Karma and Juno. So if one gets hit, all suffer. IP: Logged |
amowls* Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted July 07, 2009 11:37 AM
I've included asteroids that conjunct planets or angles exactly:Natal: Sun opposite Lilith Moon trine Mercury Moon opposite Jupiter Moon trine Chiron Mercury sextile Jupiter Venus square Saturn Venus square Uranus Venus conjunct Aphrodite Saturn conjunct Uranus Saturn square Aphrodite Uranus square Aphrodite NN square Chiron Siva conjunct ASC Zeus conjunct MC IP: Logged |
aerialcircus Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Western Massachusetts, US Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 12:41 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 02:37 PM
Amowls,I see you have a planetary pattern of Venus, Aphrodite, Saturn and Uranus. That sounds pretty intense to me, like you are often pulled between the old and new, between: Should I stay or should I go? Between a need for security in relationships, but also the fear of getting caged in. The wish to explore new pastures and the fear of the unknown. Do you feel any of this sometimes? IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 02:42 PM
Amowls, do you have some 0 degree minor aspects too? Curious about your quintiles...IP: Logged |
eve Knowflake Posts: 191 From: jane Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 03:36 PM
I completely agree! I like to reduce orbs to 30% and get well acquainted with a chart that way, after first having a brief look at the chart with conventional orbs.What I've noticed from doing this is how often our significant relationships will be with people whose charts touch our tightest natal hard aspects. For instance, let's say natally you have a 0 degree Moon - Pluto square. Your VIPs will, more often than not, touch that square, usually by having something of theirs cnj your Moon or Pluto. They can aspect you in any way though, like turning your square into a t-square or exactly trining your Moon or Pluto. I've noticed this happens more often with our tightest natal HARD aspects rather than our tightest easy ones. And I think this is because the hard aspects are what we're becoming, while the easy ones are what we already are. They're our missions, so we will click with people who are accompanying us in that mission. If they don't touch our hard aspects, no matter how much we like them we may feel like we have other things to do, like our energy is being pulled away from them. So from looking at tight orb charts, I'm working with the theory that hard aspects are vital in synastry. NOT necessarily hard aspects between two people; instead, someone must contact our natal hard aspect. (Whether they do so with an "easy" or "hard" aspect isn't as important as that they just do it.) This is why I think contact with our axes - angles, nodes, vertex - is so important. Those are "hard" aspects every chart has. They're the most fundamental areas of tension within ourselves. From that tension comes form, comes us in the real, material world. So I think when someone touches those axes we feel a spiritual bond, like they're touching our motivation for being here. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 03:41 PM
Eve,I agree 100% I can`t tell you how many times I felt attracted to someone, aspecting my Venus or Pluto (they are square by 3 degree though), usually through conjunction, opposition or square. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted July 07, 2009 03:47 PM
Aerial - you said quote: Lara, wow! Your 0 aspects are so dreamy yet action oriented! How do you handle the Sun Square Asc / Saturn quintile Asc dichotomy? Do you ever feel that it's easier for others to see the "Saturn" in you than your true Sun? And with the synastry, I would love to hear more about this relationship! Particularly the Karma Square Eros aspect of it (I've never seen this discussed before). It seems very yin/yang, lots of working together. I've read that Venus square or semi-square Neptune in synastry shows a relationship where both partners attempt to be very "real" to each other, and strive to ensure their relationship is not selfish or grounded in too much idealism. Does that ring true for you at all?
Interesting cos now you ask, i think that my AC/sun square causes me to take things way too personally about myself. Saturn is so serious and its on my AC with that damn sun aspect! Yes its true about venus/neptune... my man was always saying "but you're so real!" to me. I hope he comes back and it's just not the eclipse. He's gone very quiet in last few days which for an Aquarian means he's probably thinking Karma square eros, i have no idea what it means or how it transpires... hmmm, let me think about it IP: Logged |
eve Knowflake Posts: 191 From: jane Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 03:48 PM
As far as my 0 degree obs, I have:Moon square Uranus Sun square BML Pallas opp Moon, square Uranus, trine Pluto, cnj Psyche Moon quintile ASC Neptune semisquare ASC Mercury sextile Saturn Mercury parallel IC (to the minute) Jupiter trine Chiron Venus quindecile Juno (There may be more quindeciles. Astro doesn't list that aspect.) SN cnj Eros NN cnj Amor (this one is to the minute) NN-Amor sextile Lust (also to the minute, all three are at 2 deg 21 min) SN-Eros trine Lust Sun cnj Cupid Saturn cnj Aphrodite Pluto cnj Adonis Pluto trine Psyche Vesta sextile Eros, quintile Psyche & Pallas IP: Logged |
Scorp31 Knowflake Posts: 189 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 04:12 PM
Cool thread Lucia23, never thought to look at 0 aspects as a snap shot. My natal is:Uranus Conjunction Pluto Orb +0°29' Moon Sextile Mercury Orb -0°28' Neptune SemiSquare AS Orb -0°08' Neptune SesquiQuadrate MC Orb -0°49' Pluto Quintile MC Orb +0°40' Mars SemiSextile Neptune Orb +0°17' IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1995 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 04:25 PM
Yeah, good idea, sometimes all those aspects can be overwhelming, so zero degree orbs kinda tone down the confusion...0 degree orbs for me: Leo Sun trine Aries Mars Sun quincunx Neptune Sun sextile MC Moon quincunx Mercury Moon trine Chiron Venus sesquisquare Pluto Mars square Neptune Mars opposition MC Jupiter sextile Pallas Saturn conjunct Uranus Uranus semisquare Psyche Neptune trine Vesta Neptune square MC Pluto trine Vertex
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eve Knowflake Posts: 191 From: jane Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 05:04 PM
DD - There's no fighting the Venus-Pluto pull. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 06:18 PM
Eve, what you're saying makes so much sense in the synastries I'm looking at.Also, it explains why two people might feel a huge attraction without conventional attraction aspects. It explains why I'm so turned on by guys with tight aspects to my MC-Angel conjunction. Edited: Wow, natally, the guy I have a crush on's name asteroid (which falls on my DC at 1 degree), aspects my Sun, Neptune, and Chiron at 0 degrees...and is quintile my Union at 0 degrees. On the other hand, I had a close close friend with the same first name who fell in love with me, and I was not in love with him (plus I was in a relationship), so the friendship ended...and I guess it would be the same aspects. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2009 06:33 PM
Here are the 0 degree synastry aspects with the guy I have a crush on:MY to HIS Sun square Lust Moon quintile Mars Moon square AC Mercury semisquare Aphrodite Venus square Pluto Venus semisquare Eros Mars sextile MC Jupiter sesquiquadrate Pluto Jupiter square NN Saturn trine Sun Saturn quincunx Jupiter Saturn biquintile Uranus Saturn sextile Eros Uranus biquintile Chiron Neptune conjunct Uranus Neptune biquintile MC NN semisextile Mercury NN semisextile Adonis Adonis conjunct Valentine Aphrodite quintile Sun Aphrodite square Moon Aphrodite square Chiron Eros opp Mercury Eros semisquare Aphrodite Lust semisquare Valentine Valentine square MC MC semisextile Moon MC conjunct Pluto MC sesquiquadrate NN MC quincunx Chiron
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