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koiflower
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posted July 07, 2009 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry with less than 1*

Mercury square Neptune
Pluto square Moon
Saturn sextile North Node
Pluto opposite Chiron
South Node conjunct Mars
Lilith opposite Neptune
Juno sextile Uranus
Juno square Pallas
Moon conjunct Valentine
Valentine conjuct IC

With this snap-shot, Lucia, what do you think about these 2 people?

I like this idea, btw!

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LanaofAugust
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posted July 07, 2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LanaofAugust     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I repeat myself, I know, but I think it is important to note that it is quite possible to have natal charts where none of the aspects are tight.

My 0 deg aspects are: Sun (5 deg Virgo) sextile Mars (5 deg Scorpio) AND Sun quadrate Neptune (0,00 deg...).

(These aspects involve personal planets, I didn't include aspects involving only social&generational planets nor asteroids).

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Lara
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posted July 07, 2009 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SO interesting Lucia!

my natal:
venus semi sextile mars
moon conjunct saturn
moon conjunct NN
jupiter sexi sextile uranus (chart ruler)
jupiter square neptune
uranus sextile neptune
pluto sesiquadrate sun
NN conjunct saturn
sun square AC
saturn quintile AC
pluto sesiquadrate AC

synastry with gun man
sun opposes jupiter
sun square neptune
venus sesiquadrate jupiter
venus semi square neptune
saturn semi square chiron
neptune sesiquadrate saturn
chiron semi sextile mercury
karma square eros
persephone conjunct saturn
valentine trine aphoridte
amor square destinn
sun square AC
karma square AC
AC opposing AC

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DD
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posted July 07, 2009 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia,

I have doing this myself some time ago, just looking at zero degree aspects, but somehow other things came to the forefront and I got distracted from that.
So thank you for reminding me again.


Now, I got to sink my teeth in this again.
What minor aspects do you use btw?

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aerialcircus
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posted July 07, 2009 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope Lucia doesn't mind me injecting a bit, but; I only got four hours of sleep last night and am now on my fourth cup of coffee!

Those Valentine conjunctions jump out at me as being very romantic, particularly Moon/Valentine. I've seen that aspect listed elsewhere as being an indicator of a happy, emotionally healthy relationship, and having it so tight can only strengthen that.

South Node conjunctions usually show a place where you feel like "home" to each other, very familiar energy and so a somewhat effortless understanding by the SN person of the Mars person's actions. However, the SN may feel that the other's Marsian themes (action, conflict, sex, passion) are holding them back from moving forward.

w/ Moon Square Pluto I see some emotional outbursts, possibly related to the Moon person's inability to control their emotions around the Pluto person. I have this natally and it's a doozy. It seems to me that it's a "reliance vs. destruction" conflict, though I'm not sure how it would express with Moon/Valentine also taken into consideration.

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aerialcircus
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posted July 07, 2009 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara, wow! Your 0 aspects are so dreamy yet action oriented! How do you handle the Sun Square Asc / Saturn quintile Asc dichotomy? Do you ever feel that it's easier for others to see the "Saturn" in you than your true Sun?

And with the synastry, I would love to hear more about this relationship! Particularly the Karma Square Eros aspect of it (I've never seen this discussed before). It seems very yin/yang, lots of working together. I've read that Venus square or semi-square Neptune in synastry shows a relationship where both partners attempt to be very "real" to each other, and strive to ensure their relationship is not selfish or grounded in too much idealism. Does that ring true for you at all?

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posted July 07, 2009 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LanaofAugust, that is definitely true. The Libra I mentioned earlier actually only has two aspects in the 0 orb himself, and they're both minor aspects to generational planets.

I'm inclined to think that not having many *incredibly* tight aspects (especially natally) would actually be a blessing of a sort. What does everyone else think?

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comica23
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posted July 07, 2009 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(I only listed the ones with the main planets, and then the most interesting ones here)

Natal Aspects:

- Sun square Neptune - T_T
- Moon conjunct BML - evilness??
- Mercury trine Uranus - intelligence?? XD

- Amor trine Jupiter, oppose Vertex - love that is warm and joyful, that comes surprisingly? Kinda true~ XD
- Chiron quincux Pluto - oh the joy~
- Juno quincunx Mars;
- Valentine conjunct IC, square AC - a lover that feels like family? Kinda true too~ XP


Synastry:

- my Mars quincunx his Venus (8th ruler);
- my Saturn (5th ruler) sextile his Mars;
- his Saturn (12th ruler) bi-quintile my Sun (12th ruler);
- his Saturn (12th ruler) square my Jupiter (MC/Vertex ruler) - haaate~!!
- his Mercury (IC/DC/Vertex/NN ruler) conjunct my Valentine/IC - looove~!!
- his Mercury (IC/DC/Vertex/NN ruler) square my AC;
- his Vertex square my Uranus;

- my Juno conjunct his Venus;
- his Eros quincunx my BML;
- his Karma conjunct my Lust;
- my Union sextile his Valentine;
- his Union square my Valentine;
- his Union conjunct my AC;
- my Destinn conjunct his MC;

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DD
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posted July 07, 2009 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ZERO aspects in my natal:

Sun conjunct Mercury
Venus trine Lilith
Mars sextile MC
Saturn trine Juno (the most exact aspect)
Uranus sextile Vesta
Neptune sextile Pluto
Neptune conjunct NN

Neptune square Ceres
Neptune sextile Pallas
Pluto quinkunx Ceres
Pluto trine Pallas
Ceres square NN
Pallas sextile NN
Chiron square Eros
Vertex conjunct Eros
Juno square Karma
Lilith square ASC


Moon quinkunx Saturn
Moon semisextile Juno
Moon semisquare Vesta
Mercury semisquare Pallas
Venus semisextile Mars
Venus semisextile ASC

Mars sesisquare Chiron
Mars sesisquare Eros
(Mars opposes the midpoin Chiron/Eros exact)
SAturn semisextile Karma
Saturn sesisquare Amor
Uranus seisquare Juno
Uranus semisextile Amor
Pluto quinkunx Ceres
Pluto sesisquare Psyche
Vertex semisquare Lilith
Ceres semisextile Pallas
Vesta semisextile Amor
ERos semisquare Lilith

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DepTaurus
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posted July 07, 2009 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i only have
jupiter opposite uranus
venus square neptune

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Lucia23
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posted July 07, 2009 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, DD, Neptune exactly on your NN--that must be interesting!

I do think that unless you have NO 0 degree aspects, you can do a "snapshot" portrait--it's like using one tarot card for a reading instead of 37 tarot cards--you can do a full reading either way. It makes sense to just look at the 0 degree aspects that do show up...it also makes sense, if you have NO 0 degree aspects between your main planets, to look carefully at outer planets and asteroid connections...if a generational aspect (Uranus square Neptune, or whatever) is your only natal aspect at a narrow orb, you may feel it more prominantly as a part of your personality than someone who has a 0 degree natal Sun-Venus conjunction, Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, and Sun-Jupiter square too.

Like I said, it's not a substitute for a thorough reading--just a fascinating exercise and a good way to get perspective on the aspects.

(Re: aspects--I've been using all of the minor aspects that are calculated by astro.com.)

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DD
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posted July 07, 2009 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two thoughts I had:

1. look for the TIGHTEST aspects, even out of the 00 degree range.


2. it is telling if you do not have exact aspects, it means various parts of your personality are not too tightly interwoven,w hich could be helpful to keep an objective perspective.

Also,
If you have no aspects within, let`s say 2 degrees, it means that transits will not hit major complexes SIMULTANEOUSLY.

For example:
My Moon is exactly aspecting, Saturn, Karma and Juno.

So if one gets hit, all suffer.

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amowls*
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posted July 07, 2009 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've included asteroids that conjunct planets or angles exactly:

Natal:
Sun opposite Lilith
Moon trine Mercury
Moon opposite Jupiter
Moon trine Chiron
Mercury sextile Jupiter
Venus square Saturn
Venus square Uranus
Venus conjunct Aphrodite
Saturn conjunct Uranus
Saturn square Aphrodite
Uranus square Aphrodite
NN square Chiron
Siva conjunct ASC
Zeus conjunct MC

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aerialcircus
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posted July 07, 2009 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump!

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DD
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posted July 07, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls,

I see you have a planetary pattern of Venus, Aphrodite, Saturn and Uranus.

That sounds pretty intense to me, like you are often pulled between the old and new, between: Should I stay or should I go?
Between a need for security in relationships, but also the fear of getting caged in.
The wish to explore new pastures and the fear of the unknown.

Do you feel any of this sometimes?

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Lucia23
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posted July 07, 2009 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls, do you have some 0 degree minor aspects too? Curious about your quintiles...

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eve
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posted July 07, 2009 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree! I like to reduce orbs to 30% and get well acquainted with a chart that way, after first having a brief look at the chart with conventional orbs.

What I've noticed from doing this is how often our significant relationships will be with people whose charts touch our tightest natal hard aspects.

For instance, let's say natally you have a 0 degree Moon - Pluto square. Your VIPs will, more often than not, touch that square, usually by having something of theirs cnj your Moon or Pluto. They can aspect you in any way though, like turning your square into a t-square or exactly trining your Moon or Pluto.

I've noticed this happens more often with our tightest natal HARD aspects rather than our tightest easy ones. And I think this is because the hard aspects are what we're becoming, while the easy ones are what we already are. They're our missions, so we will click with people who are accompanying us in that mission. If they don't touch our hard aspects, no matter how much we like them we may feel like we have other things to do, like our energy is being pulled away from them.

So from looking at tight orb charts, I'm working with the theory that hard aspects are vital in synastry. NOT necessarily hard aspects between two people; instead, someone must contact our natal hard aspect. (Whether they do so with an "easy" or "hard" aspect isn't as important as that they just do it.)

This is why I think contact with our axes - angles, nodes, vertex - is so important. Those are "hard" aspects every chart has. They're the most fundamental areas of tension within ourselves. From that tension comes form, comes us in the real, material world. So I think when someone touches those axes we feel a spiritual bond, like they're touching our motivation for being here.

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DD
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posted July 07, 2009 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eve,

I agree 100%

I can`t tell you how many times I felt attracted to someone, aspecting my Venus or Pluto (they are square by 3 degree though), usually through conjunction, opposition or square.

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Lara
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posted July 07, 2009 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aerial -

you said

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Lara, wow! Your 0 aspects are so dreamy yet action oriented! How do you handle the Sun Square Asc / Saturn quintile Asc dichotomy? Do you ever feel that it's easier for others to see the "Saturn" in you than your true Sun?
And with the synastry, I would love to hear more about this relationship! Particularly the Karma Square Eros aspect of it (I've never seen this discussed before). It seems very yin/yang, lots of working together. I've read that Venus square or semi-square Neptune in synastry shows a relationship where both partners attempt to be very "real" to each other, and strive to ensure their relationship is not selfish or grounded in too much idealism. Does that ring true for you at all?

Interesting cos now you ask, i think that my AC/sun square causes me to take things way too personally about myself. Saturn is so serious and its on my AC with that damn sun aspect!

Yes its true about venus/neptune... my man was always saying "but you're so real!" to me. I hope he comes back and it's just not the eclipse. He's gone very quiet in last few days which for an Aquarian means he's probably thinking

Karma square eros, i have no idea what it means or how it transpires... hmmm, let me think about it

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posted July 07, 2009 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as my 0 degree obs, I have:

Moon square Uranus
Sun square BML

Pallas opp Moon, square Uranus, trine Pluto, cnj Psyche

Moon quintile ASC
Neptune semisquare ASC

Mercury sextile Saturn
Mercury parallel IC (to the minute)

Jupiter trine Chiron
Venus quindecile Juno

(There may be more quindeciles. Astro doesn't list that aspect.)

SN cnj Eros
NN cnj Amor (this one is to the minute)
NN-Amor sextile Lust (also to the minute, all three are at 2 deg 21 min)
SN-Eros trine Lust

Sun cnj Cupid
Saturn cnj Aphrodite
Pluto cnj Adonis
Pluto trine Psyche
Vesta sextile Eros, quintile Psyche & Pallas

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posted July 07, 2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorp31     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool thread Lucia23, never thought to look at 0 aspects as a snap shot. My natal is:

Uranus Conjunction Pluto Orb +0°29'
Moon Sextile Mercury Orb -0°28'
Neptune SemiSquare AS Orb -0°08'
Neptune SesquiQuadrate MC Orb -0°49'
Pluto Quintile MC Orb +0°40'
Mars SemiSextile Neptune Orb +0°17'

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posted July 07, 2009 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, good idea, sometimes all those aspects can be overwhelming, so zero degree orbs kinda tone down the confusion...

0 degree orbs for me:

Leo Sun trine Aries Mars

Sun quincunx Neptune

Sun sextile MC

Moon quincunx Mercury

Moon trine Chiron

Venus sesquisquare Pluto

Mars square Neptune

Mars opposition MC

Jupiter sextile Pallas

Saturn conjunct Uranus

Uranus semisquare Psyche

Neptune trine Vesta

Neptune square MC

Pluto trine Vertex


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eve
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posted July 07, 2009 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD -
There's no fighting the Venus-Pluto pull.

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Lucia23
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posted July 07, 2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eve, what you're saying makes so much sense in the synastries I'm looking at.

Also, it explains why two people might feel a huge attraction without conventional attraction aspects.

It explains why I'm so turned on by guys with tight aspects to my MC-Angel conjunction.

Edited: Wow, natally, the guy I have a crush on's name asteroid (which falls on my DC at 1 degree), aspects my Sun, Neptune, and Chiron at 0 degrees...and is quintile my Union at 0 degrees.

On the other hand, I had a close close friend with the same first name who fell in love with me, and I was not in love with him (plus I was in a relationship), so the friendship ended...and I guess it would be the same aspects.

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Lucia23
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posted July 07, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the 0 degree synastry aspects with the guy I have a crush on:

MY to HIS
Sun square Lust
Moon quintile Mars
Moon square AC
Mercury semisquare Aphrodite
Venus square Pluto
Venus semisquare Eros
Mars sextile MC
Jupiter sesquiquadrate Pluto
Jupiter square NN
Saturn trine Sun
Saturn quincunx Jupiter
Saturn biquintile Uranus
Saturn sextile Eros
Uranus biquintile Chiron
Neptune conjunct Uranus
Neptune biquintile MC
NN semisextile Mercury
NN semisextile Adonis
Adonis conjunct Valentine
Aphrodite quintile Sun
Aphrodite square Moon
Aphrodite square Chiron
Eros opp Mercury
Eros semisquare Aphrodite
Lust semisquare Valentine
Valentine square MC
MC semisextile Moon
MC conjunct Pluto
MC sesquiquadrate NN
MC quincunx Chiron

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