posted July 12, 2009 06:40 AM         

I even did this "cutting cords" meditation regarding P several times, but it didn`t work. As a matter of fact, everytime I did that, he would cross my path, as short and insignificant these little encounters ever may have been.

But really in my case, the fact that this feeling of a connection didn`t change even once in almost 20 years, shows me that there is something about those guys, at least P and A.

On the ground of these personal feelings and the transformations I have been through just by knowing of their existence, I looked out for the synastries, and there I found some common themes.

If you look at what I posted above, there seems to be a lot involvement of Spirit, Venus, Juno and Valentine in various variations.

In p`s case there is an interesting connection between DNA, too.
His DNA / NN opposes my Moon (and his Draco DNA conjuncts my Draco ASC, Atlantis Angel etc.); my DNA widely opposes his Sun (and my Chiron conjuncts his Sun) and my DRaco DNA conjuncts his Saturn and his real name and his psydonyme in my chart exactly.

posted July 12, 2009 01:01 PM         

After having coincidentally seen P from my soulgroup yesterday, I had a deeper look at the transits.

The transits alone had some interesting aspects (valid for every person on earth of course)
Venus opposite DR Karma
Mars widely conjunct DR Uranus
Jupiter conjunct Neptune
Saturn conjunct DR Sun
SN conjunct Valentine conjunct DR Mars

So I looked at the personal transits of P and me:

1) Tr Saturn conjunct Dr Sun

conjunct my Saturnic Venus
oposes my Dr Amor
opposes my Dr Valentine

opposes his Mars

2) Tr Mars ocnjunct Dr Uranus

opposes my Sat Juno
opposes my Valentine

conjunct his Sat Eros
opposes his Dr Sun

(it also fell onto the Composite Karma/Erosconjunction, opposing Psyche and Neptune and squaring Valentine)

3) Tr Jupiter conjunct Neptune conjunct Chiron
(conjunct Composite Valentine)

conjunct my Sat SN
conjnct my Psyche

oppoiste his Sat Spirit

4) Tr Venus opposite Dr Karma

conjunct / opp my DESC
conjunct / opp my Dr MOon
opp / conjunct my Angel, Mars, Atlantis

conjunct / oppoiste his Satu sun
opp. / conjunct his DR Atlantis

His Saturnic Sun falls exactly onto my tropical DSC and Draco Moon, and transiting Venus was in a perfect conjunction yesterday!!!

5) Tr SN conjunct Valentine conjunct Dr Mars

oppoiste my Dr Pluto
opoiste my progressed Sun

opposes the whole soul groupl`s Saturnic Moon

6) Tr Karma

oppoises my Sat Eros
conjunct my Pluto
conjunct my Mc
conjunct my DR Karma exactly!

conjunct his Saturnic True Node exactly!
conjunct his SAt DNA
opposes his Eros

the Eccliptic degree of 14 Cancer
conjunct my Saturn on 17 Cancer (and progressed Saturn on 14 Cancer)

conjunct his Saturnic Valentine on 14 Cancer

So, his Saturnic Valentine conjuncts my tropical Saturn, and that has been on the same degree as the Ecclipse!

posted July 12, 2009 01:13 PM         

with P:

my Saturnic Moon conjuncts his Dr Amor on 00 Scorpio
A Crowded Sightseeing Bus On A City Street

his Sat Sun conjunct my DESC on 07 Gemini
Aroused Strikers Surround A Factory

my Saturnic IC conjuncts his Dr Venus on 17 Sagittarius
Children Playing On The Beach, Their Heads Protected By Sunbonnets

my Sat Spirit conjuncts his Dr Saturn on 23 Virgo
Mary And Her Little Lamb

my Sat Juno conjuncts his dr Sun on 00 Sagittarius
Retired Army Veterans Gather To Reawaken Old Memories

With A:
my Saturnic Jpuiter conjuncts his Dr Spirit on 24 Scorpio
An X-Ray Photograph

my Saturnic Spirit conjuncts his Atlantis on 23 Virgo
Mary And Her Little Lamb

his Saturnic Sun and his tropical Eros conjunct my tropical Venus on 06 Capricorn
A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God

his Saturnic Jupiter and Karma conjunct my Draco Chiron on 9 Leo
Early Morning Dew Sparkles As Sunlight Floods The Field

his Saturnic Amor conjuncts my mean NN on 09 Sagittarius
A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity

his Saturnic Valentine conjunct my Chiron on 20 Aries
A Pugilist Enters The Ring

his Saturnic Chiron conjunct my dr atlantis on 28 Pisces
Light Breaking Into Many Colors As It Passes Through A Prism

I noticed that I share with two people two same degrees.

A and J BOTH have their Saturnic Valentine exactly on my tropical Chiron.

A, P and me have all something on 23-24 Virgo.

I have: Saturnic Spirit
P has: Draconic Saturn
A has: tropical Atlantis

Also, P and me have our composite Pluto on 23 - 24 Virgo.

And coincidentally when I cast a horary chart for yesterday the ASC was on 23 - 24 Virgo.

Mary has a little lamb.

Hmm, IQ, if oyu look at this, what are your thoughts on this?

posted July 12, 2009 05:37 PM         

First, me and ANDY.
Andy is "A"

My Saturn MOON/NN 0’ aries
My CHIRON 1’ aries
My draco MOON 0’ aries
My draco VENUS 2’ aries
A’s PLUTO 29’ virgo
A’s draco SUN 2’ aries
A’s Saturn SUN 3’ aries

My Saturn VENUS 3’ aries
My Saturn MOON 0’ aries
My Saturn VENUS 2’ aries
My n CHIRON 1’ aries
A’s draco SUN 2’ aries
A’s Saturn SUN 3’ aries

My Saturn MARS 3’ Taurus
My Saturn UNION 3’ taurus
My n SUN 5’ Taurus
My n JUNO 5’ scorpio
My n KARMA 6’ scorpio
A’s CUPID 2’ Taurus
A’s draco ANGEL 5’ Taurus
A;s draco PLUTO 5’ scorpio
A’s Saturn EROS 0’ taurus

My Saturn PLUTO 2’ virgo
My Saturn DNA 1’ pisces
A’s DESTINN 3’ virgo

My Saturn AC 17’ Capricorn
My n LILITH 17’ capricorn
My n DESTINN 14’ capricorn
A’s APHRODITE 16’ Capricorn
A;s Saturn PSYCHE 15’ cancer

My Saturn IC 17’ Taurus
My n PERSEPHONE 17’ Taurus
My n PSYCHE 17’ scorpio
A’s SATURN 16’ Taurus
A’s Saturn CHIRON 14’ taurus

My Saturn JUNO 18’ libra
My Saturn SUN 17’ aries
My Saturn KARMA 18’ aries
My n MOON/SATURN/NN 18’ aries
A’s IC 15’ libra

My Saturn VALENTINE 4’ cancer
A’s KARMA 2’ cancer
A’s PERSEPHONE 2’ Capricorn
A;s draco JUNO 5’ cancer
A;s Saturn JUNO 5’ cancer

My Saturn UNION 4’ Taurus
MY n SUN 5’ Taurus
My n JUNO 5’ scorpio
My n KARMA 6’ scorpio
A’s CUPID 2’ Taurus
A;s draco ANGEL 5’ Taurus
A’s draco PLUTO 5’ scorpio
A’s Saturn PLUTO 6’ scorpio

My Saturn ANGEL 21’ virgo
My n PLUTO 20’ virgo
My n DNA 19’ pisces
A’s EROS 23’ pisces

My Saturn SPIRIT 8’ pisces
My n VERTEX 8’ virgo
A’s SPIRIT 7’ virgo

My Saturn CHIRON 13’ pisces
My Saturn EROS 15’ virgo
A;s draco AC 12’ virgo

My Saturn VERTEX 26’ virgo
My n SPIRIT 26’ pisces
A’s PLUTO 29’ virgo
A’s ANGEL 28’ pisces
A’s draco VALENTINE 26’ pisces
A’s Saturn VALENTINE 26’ pisces

posted July 12, 2009 05:44 PM         

My Saturn SUN 18’ aries
My SATURN/NN/MOON 18’ aries
My draco SUN 17’ aries
My draco JUNO 16’ libra
My draco KARMA 18’ libra
M’s SUN 22’ aries
M’s VENUS 22’ aries

My Saturn MOON/NN 0’ aries
My CHIRON 1’ aries
My draco MOON 0’ aries
My draco VENUS 2’ aries
M’s draco VERTEX 1’ libra
M’s Saturn PLUTO 2’ libra
M’s Saturn KARMA 2’ aries

My Saturn VENUS 3’ aries
My Saturn MOON 0’ aries
My Saturn VENUS 2’ aries
My n CHIRON 1’ aries
M’s AMOR 5’ aries
M’s drco VERTEX 1’ libra
M’s Saturn PLUTO 2’ libra
M’s Saturn KARMA 2’ aries

My Saturn MARS 3’ Taurus
My Saturn UNION 3’ taurus
My n SUN 5’ Taurus
My n JUNO 5’ scorpio
My n KARMA 6’ scorpio
M’s draco UNION 6’ scorpio
M’s draco VALENTINE 4’ scorpio
M’s Saturn PSYCHE 1’ Taurus

My Saturn PLUTO 2’ virgo
My Saturn DNA 1’ pisces
M’s draco PERSEPHONE 1’ virgo

My Saturn AC 17’ Capricorn
My n LILITH 17’ capricorn
My n DESTINN 14’ capricorn
M’s VALENTINE 20’ Capricorn

My S KARMA 19’ libra
My MOON/SATURN/NN 18’ aries
My VENUS 21’ aries
My draco SUN 17’ aries
My draco JUNO 16’ aries
My draco KARMA 18’ aries
M’s SUN 22’ aries
M’s VENUS 22’ aries

My Saturn VALENTINE 4’ cancer
M’s draco CHIRON 5’ Capricorn

My Saturn UNION 4’ Taurus
MY n SUN 5’ Taurus
My n JUNO 5’ scorpio
My n KARMA 6’ scorpio
M’s UNION 6’ Scorpio

My Saturn ANGEL 21’ virgo
My n PLUTO 20’ virgo
My n DNA 19’ pisces
M’s CHIRON 20’ pisces
M’s Saturn MOON 19’ virgo

My Saturn SPIRIT 8’ pisces
My n VERTEX 8’ virgo
M’s MOON 7’ virgo
M’s MARS 9’ virgo
M’s ATLANTIS 6’ pisces
M’s draco SPIRIT 6’ virgo
M’s Saturn EROS 8’ pisces

My Saturn CHIRON 13’ pisces
My Saturn EROS 15’ virgo
M’s PLUTO 14’ virgo
M’s draco DNA 16’ pisces

posted July 12, 2009 06:11 PM         

Comica I thought this link might add moreof a perspective to your soul group research and particularly regarding the 26 Taurus/Scorpio axis... This is the axis (including Leo/Aquarius) that shows big connection to Atlantis I think, though not sure of it.... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201165.html

posted July 13, 2009 05:05 AM         

really, the 26 Scorpio / Taurus axis is connected to Atlantis?

I am having Valentine on 27 Scorpio and P has Valentine on 25 Taurus, so it means our composite Valentine falls on 26 Aquarius, squaring this axis.

posted July 13, 2009 05:12 AM         

my personal choice of objects to look at first:

ASC, IC, True Node, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, Chiron, DNA, Spirit, Angel, Atlantis, Juno, Valentine, Amor, Eros (Psyche)

I also would check if there are EXACT aspects, on the same degree, so that a Sabian symbol is shared.

Like in the case of me, J, P and A we all have something on 23 - 24 Virgo

P: Draco Saturn
A: Atlantis
Me: Saturnic Spirit
J: Saturnic ASC

Those are probably interesting to meditate on. Maybe it means that there is a spiritual "responsibility" for each other?

The sabian is: Mary has a little lamb.
It reminds of caring deeply for someone.

That degree also pops up frequently in composites, transiting triggers and so on.

posted July 13, 2009 07:35 AM         

my Sat Sun conjunct his Pluto (1)
my Sat Sun conjunct his DESC
my Sat Moon conjunct his Amor (0)
my Sat Venus opposite his Mars (1)
my Satu Pluto opposite his Dr Karma (0)
my Sat DNA conjunct his Spirit (1)
my Sat Spirit conjunct his Dr Saturn (0)
my Sat Juno conjunct his Dr Sun (0)
my Sat Amor conjunct his NN (1)
my Sat Amor conjunct his DNA (1)
my Sat Valentine opposite his Saturn (0)

his Sat Sun conjunct my DESC (0)
his Sat Sun oppoiste my Atalntis (1)
his Sat Sun opposite my Angel (0)
his Sat Sun conjunct my Dr Moon (0)
his Sat Moon conjunct my Dr Juno (2)
his Sat Venus opposite my Sun (2)
his Sat Pluto opposite my Dr Venus (2)
his Sat NN conjunct my Pluto (3)
his Sat NN conjunct my Dr karma (0)
his Sat Karma opposite my Sun (1)
his Sat DNA conjunct my Dr Karma (2)
his Sat Atlantis conjunct my Karma (2)
his Sat Valentine conjunct my Saturn (2)
his Sat Eros opposite m Valentine (2)

my Sat Chiron conjunct his Dr Moon (0)
my Sat Chiron conjunct his Dr Juno (3)

posted July 13, 2009 02:16 PM         

A - me:

Moon - Leo 24.47

- oppose E's tropical Alma - Aquarius 24.45

- conjunct B's draconic Saturn - Leo 22.45

NN - Virgo 21.00

- conjunct D's draconic Angel - Virgo 18.45

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B:

Moon - Leo 3.35

(none)

NN - Scorpio 7.16

- oppose D's tropical NN - Taurus 9.13

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C:

Moon - Capricorn 16.25

- oppose E's tropical NN - Cancer 14.20

- oppose E's draconic Jupiter - Cancer 18.15

NN - Aquarius 2.57

(none)

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D:

Moon - Aries 2.19

- oppose A's tropical Angel - Libra 2.44

NN - Virgo 12.47

- conjunct B's tropical Karma - Virgo 14.01
- oppose B's tropical Moon - Pisces 12.32

- conjunct B's draconic DNA - Virgo 11.04
- oppose C's draconic Moon - Pisces 13.29

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E:

Moon - Virgo 29.28

- oppose A's draconic Spirit - Pisces 27.06
- conjunct B's draconic Jupiter - Virgo 29.03

NN - Sagittarius 28.08

- conjunct C's tropical Karma - Sagittarius 29.54

posted July 14, 2009 02:34 PM         

I did it like you now, only looked at Saturnic true Node and Moon with the spiritual objects.

P-A (those had a real relationship)

P`s Sat Moon on 09°24 Cancer
- opposite A`sSpirit on 09°42 Capricorn
- conjunct A`s DR Angel on 10°04 Cancer

No aspects to P`s Sat True Node

A`s Sat Moon on 5°0 Taurus
- conjunct `P`s Karma on 07°40 Taurus

A`s Satu True Node on 21°51 Taurus
- conjunct P`s Moon on 19°22 Taurus

P-J

P`s Sat Moon on 9°34 Cancer
- opposite J`s Sun on 7°37 Capricron
- oppoiste J`s Dr Moon on 11°04 Capricorn

P`s Sat True Node on 06°13 Libra
- oppoiste J`s IC on 8°27 Aries
- opposite J`s DNA on 8°56 Aries
- conjunct J`s Pluto on 4°24 Libra

J`s Sat Moon on 12°25 Leo
- conjunct P`s DNA on 14°51 Leo
- oppoiste P`s Saturn on 9°48 Aquarius

A- J

A`s Sat True Node on 21°51 Taurus
- oppoiste J`s Dr Angel on 24°08 Scorpio

J`s Sat True Node on 1°20 Scorpio
- opposite A`s Moon on 28°4 Aries

J- Me:

his Sat Moon on 12°25 Leo
- oppoiste my Dr DNA on 10°10 Aquarius

his Sat True Node on 1°20 Scorpio
- opposite my Dr Spirit on 00°30 Taurus

my Sat Moon on 00°09 Scorpio:
- conjunct his Moon on 27°55 Libra

my Sat True Node on 23°13 Leo
- conjunct his DR Descendant on 22°24 Aquarius

A-Me

my Sat Moon on 00°09 Scorpio
- oppoiste his Moon on 28°34 Aries (and most likely his ASC)

my Sat True Node on 23°13 Leo
- conjunct his Angel on 25°25 Leo

his Sat Moon on 05°04 Taurus
- opposite my Dr Saturn on 6°47 Scorpio

P-Me
no aspects to my Saturnic Moon or Saturnic True Node,

BUT look at this

his Sat Moon on 09°24 Cancer
- oppoiste my spirit on 10°39 Capricorn

his Sat True Node on 6°13 Libra
- oppoiste my IC on 4°58 Aries
- opposite my Alma on 6°13 Aries
- conjunct my pluto on 09°05 Libra
- conjunct my Dr Karma on 5°51 Libra

What is most noteable is that EVERY pair of these 4 people have either Saturnic True Node or Sat Moon conjunct or opposite the other one`s Moon.
Exception is P and me, BUT my tropical MOon is exactly conjunct his tropical SN

Also, the tropical Moon of J and A are triggered by the saturnic True Nod e/ moon of P and me, and additionally J triggers A`s Moon.

posted July 15, 2009 08:56 AM         

yes, I thought it was interesting that all people of my group are connected through Moon. Maybe some sort of family bond.

Anyway, you wrote:
"In my case, strangely the pairs that aren't really connected (either didn't meet or only briefly meet) has more connections than of those who share a deeper relationship lol (special friendships or love"

I think there are several possible explanation for this:

1. it is all just a POTENTIAL, so maybe potentially they could be close to each other, when the time is right

2. it might stem from past life contacts, maybe they have already experienced those relationships in another life, especially if Draconic oppositions are involved

3. the spiritual connection might not always be obvious in the outseide; meaning you would need strong tropical aspects to, to bring a relationship into manifestation.

4. those connections are only saying there is a spiritual foundation / undercurrent / connection, but it doesn`t say aynthing about the nature.

5. probably it would make sense to see if there is a connection to DESC, Venus, Mars, Amor, Juno, Eros or Valentine

I did that for my group (only regarding Sat Moon and Sat NN)

P-A

P`s Sat Moon opposes A`s Venus

A`s Sat Moon conjuncts P`s Venus

A`s Sat True Node conjuncts P`s Juno (nearly exactly!)
A`s Sat SN conjuncts P`s Dr Eros

- those are very strong connections I think, they have a DW with Venus PLUS the JUno link and an erotic link stemming from a past life
- they have been together for over 10 years

P-J

J`s SAt NN conjuncts P`s Dr Amor
J`s Sat SN conjuncts P`s Venus

- hmm, they don΄t know each other, but it looks to me like their experiences with each others are in the past
- maybe there would be some affinity between them still, as the Draco chart not only relates to past live`s, but also to a spiritual connection, but as the tropical is not so much involved, I think this might stay as an "undercurrent"

A-J

A`s Sat Moon oposes J`s Dr Amor

J`s Sat Moon conjuncts A`s Juno

J-Me

my Sat SN conjuncts his Amor
my Sat SN conjuncts his Dr Venus
my Sat NN conjuncts his DR Desc

A- me
my SAt Moon conjuncts his DESC

my Sat NN conjuncts his Dr Mars

P-Me

my Sat Moon conjunct his Dr Amor

his Sat Moon conjuncts my Dr Juno

posted July 15, 2009 12:14 PM         

A and B:

- A's Sat NN conjunct B's tropical Eros (0Ί59');

- B's Sat SN conjunct A's tropical Mars (1Ί23');

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A and C:

- A's Sat NN oppose C's tropical Venus (2Ί07');

(they are both girls)

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A and D:

(none)

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A and E:

- A's Sat Moon oppose E's draconic Amor (2Ί53');

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B and C:

- B's Sat NN conjunct C's tropical Juno (0Ί37');
- B's Sat NN conjunct C's draconic Venus (1Ί29');

- C's Sat Moon oppose B's draconic Venus (2Ί46');

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B and D:

(none)

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B and E:

- B's Sat SN conjunct E's tropical Valentine (1Ί45');

- E's Sat Moon conjunct B's tropical Mars (1Ί45');

(omg they are both guys lol)

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C and D:

- D's Sat Moon oppose C's draconic Valentine (0Ί31');

(they are both girls)

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C and E:

- E's Sat Moon oppose C's tropical Mars (0Ί48');
- E's Sat SN conjunct C's draconic Juno (1Ί37');

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D and E:

- D's Sat Moon oppose E's tropical Mars (1Ί31');

- E's Sat Moon conjunct D's tropical Venus (0Ί44');
- E's Sat NN conjunct D's draconic DC (2Ί42');

one curious thing:

A's tropical Sun - Aries 2Ί39'
B's tropical Mars - Virgo 27Ί43'
B's tropical Venus - Libra 5Ί23'
C's tropical Mars - Pisces 28Ί40'
D's tropical Venus - Libra 0Ί12'
E's tropical Mars - Libra 0Ί48'

Also, I've just noticed that everyone's Sat Eros:

A's Eros - 11Ί34' Leo
B's Eros - 13Ί02' Aquarius
C's Eros - 11Ί28' Leo
D's Eros - 10Ί25' Aquarius
E's Eros - 16Ί18' Aquarius

..as I remember, around these degrees:

A has draconic Angel/Sun (Leo/Aquarius) here
B has tropical Angel/Spirit (Leo/Aquarius) here
C has tropical NN (Leo) here
D has tropical AC (Leo) here
E has draconic Sun/tropical AC (Aquarius) here