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listenstotrees
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posted July 18, 2009 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Just curious.

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posted July 18, 2009 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
I demand to know!

Plus, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now!

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Lara
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posted July 18, 2009 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Listens,

Can you post a synastry too please with valentine/juno/union/karma/eros/psyche/vertex?
Thanks

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posted July 18, 2009 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
add the -synastry- it's much easier to see the connections there

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posted July 18, 2009 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
I hope this one is ok.

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posted July 18, 2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
strong pts of similarity/reading each other/feeling at home:
-moon conj mercury
-venus on asc
-nn conj ic, DW but one is wider and out of sign
-your asc/dsc are opp somewhat wide but valid
-her asc ruler conj his mc ruler, tight

otherworldly type experience:
-her dsc ruler, moon, virtually unaspected in synastry but conj comp uranus
-comp merc trine neptune

could look at more but really the planets aren't receiving many aspects but can -definitely- see how there could be that feeling there and there are strong pts of connection, but is the relation, i mean does it have form is there a lot of interaction? there could be a lot of surface interaction misunderstandings considering comm styles and age difference, but underneath the "feeling" of connection could be there, again there are indicators but i think if its your twin soul theres not really much doubt......

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posted July 18, 2009 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
i'm just not seeing it, i have to admit. I'm no pro though.

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posted July 18, 2009 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
LTT, don't let anyone tell you that what you feel is not real.

Some quotes from the Buddha say something like that:

Don't believe anything, even if I, buddha, said it, that doesn't agree with your reason.

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posted July 18, 2009 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
What I see is that:

Majority of his planets fall in her 5H, 7H, 8H.
Majority of her planets fall in his 4H, 12H.

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Lucia23
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posted July 18, 2009 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely don't see this as a Twin Self relationship, although I am crap at reading charts when I don't have the degrees there in front of me.

Looking at it quickly, I would not be surprised if:
1) You have never actually had sex with each other
2) You aren't in a real relationship with each other

There are a few semi-connecting things going on, but the most binding things I see (Neptune opposite Moon, Venus on the ASC, your NN conjunct his Venus/IC) are potentially more missed-connection or one-way-obsession aspects, in my experience. I can't tell how close your Sun-Sun or Sun-Pluto squares are...maybe not enough to be relevent at all...but with your Saturn near his solar stellium/Pluto like that, I'm surprised you feel a deep connection instead of an agonized one.

I'm not even positive why--it just doesn't have the feeling of a close, strong, mutual, passionate, everyday relationship to me.

EDITED: I agree with Pire though!!!


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posted July 18, 2009 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not saying it's not real Pire - just maybe she needs to look at draconics/tropical for further clues.

I think the houses are there, i just don't see the aspects i wanna see, but then i don't know any of these asteroids

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posted July 18, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
LTT

Can you post the composite with vertex?

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posted July 18, 2009 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
hi, LTT! i am useless at this kind of question from the astrol point of view...but was just reading michael newton (the life-between-life hypnotherapist) and reminded that though some of us have agreed NOT to meet our twins during this life, there are any number of other people out there we can have just as good a relationship with...and it would be a shame to pass one of them by waiting for that special one...because those others may be who you DID agree to connect with this time around!

so i agree the feelings are the most important part of this equation...

monkey and horse, both with the rat rising and both mutable mercurial signs...could be interesting!

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posted July 18, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
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posted July 18, 2009 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
COOL KAT

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posted July 18, 2009 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
Twin self... Twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself... Twinself...twinself...

Overrated. Proofs:

>It is a concept socially constructed... Never heard it in French language. Twinself..?
>your twinself could die tomorrow, you would have meet him, yes...
>what people write on astrology board is not always accurate, even after many "readings" and "researches". It is more a case of the blind leading a blind.
>u should not look for outside validations for your relationship. It is unwise.

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posted July 18, 2009 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
Twin self... Twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself, twinself... Twinself...twinself...

Overrated. Proofs:

>It is a concept socially constructed... Never heard it in French language. Twinself..?
>your twinself could die tomorrow, you would have meet him, yes...
>what people write on astrology board is not always accurate, even after many "readings" and "researches". It is more a case of the blind leading a blind.
>u should not look for outside validations for your relationship.

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posted July 18, 2009 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, I would like to thank each one of you for taking your time, it is much appreciated.

I have to say however that what the charts seem to indicate couldn't be further off from the truth, but it was interesting nevertheless.

I don't think I need to look to astrology any more.

But thank you everybody anyway

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posted July 18, 2009 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
Another thing, I'm cancer rising, but that could be an omen or a curse. Depending on MAAAAAANY things.
Do you catch my drift LTT?

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posted July 18, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Pire, you're right, I don't believe in the twin self concept anymore.

Everyone is connected; we are all reflections of each other.

We create our own reality....and perhaps it is even we who control the planets rather than they us.

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posted July 18, 2009 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Good point, Pire

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posted July 18, 2009 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
We create our own reality....and perhaps it is even we who control the planets rather than them us.

I agree.

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posted July 18, 2009 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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I have to say however that what the charts seem to indicate couldn't be further off from the truth, but it was interesting nevertheless.

Interesting! For those of us trying to learn to read synastry better, please tell a little bit about what the relationship is like.

How long have you been a couple? Are you married/engaged? Do you live together, and if so, for how long? Children?

I agree with everybody that feelings and what is happening in real life are much, much more important than the charts! But I also think the skill of the astrologer can sometimes make the difference between a highly accurate reading versus an inaccurate one...even if they are using the same methods.

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posted July 18, 2009 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
We've not long been a couple, but feel as though we have always known each other. Feelings of a very strong, deep connection.
We are also on the same path as far as our beliefs and goals are concerned.

More information here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201522.html


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posted July 18, 2009 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
The aspects may not be showing it, but I believe that the house overlays speak for themselves. Whew!

And the composite looks ok with concentrated planets, and with sun and NN in fourth.

I don't know how Chiron in 1st manifests in a relationship. Could be a healing thing for both of them?

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