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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 10:45 AM
 
Hi Comica,Dd,Vesta,Iq and anyone else brave enough to look
Carrying on from Vesta's thread where we posted about the degree of 26-27 Taurus or thereabouts. I know it's been mentioned before , forgot to say that previously but I would love to explore it.... Apart from that...Comica we have plently of soul group or past life connections.
Your Karma on my Neptune
Your Spirit and n node conjunct my Chiron
and your N node squares mine at 17 Leo.
With a nice trine to my Venus and your Isis!
Your Osiris and angel conjunct my Saturn
And double whammy!!! Because your Saturn conjunct my angel and horus... How cool!
What specifically does it all mean That we are part of the sam soul group?
How many soul groups are there? BTW my birth info 18th Oct 1980 06:59 Belfast Uk IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 23, 2009 11:26 AM
My Moon is at 17 Aquarius (and P`s NN is at 16 Leo, almost exactly conjunct yours. He`s like 22 years older than you though).My Valentine is at 27 Scorpio. What do you ahve got there? Oh and sorry to mention P again, his Valentine is at 25 Taurus. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 11:38 AM
I have horus and angel conjunct there DD at 27 Taurus see then that's where it all happens....
Using the analogy from another thread... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201612.html what happens then if the transmission is cut off from your dna to your talent and isis for example.... Does that mean something needs to be resoved in order for my dna to activate a particular talent connected to isis/osiris?
Was there at one time two opposing clans who worshipped the god Osiris and the other who worshipped Isis? (or is that Zeus and Hera)Did they engage in certain different practices? Say I had a past life line to both would and the resonnace of them still remained in my psyche is that what could possibly need to be resolved? Then is one cult practise, say followers of Zeus associated to a certain soul group then? Maybe I'm making this complicated? It doesn't matter if P is 22 years older i feel well beyond my years
Edited... Just read your post in the other thread must get looking at that chart. Lots happening at 27 Sagittarius for you.
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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 11:54 AM
DD You have talented genes ! Dna trine talent.We have the same Mars, well mine is at 4 Sag and your Dna conjunct my pluto... interesting I think it's the degree that matters more so rather than the element and running along the lines of Magi astrology and sacred geometery it all needs to calculate up. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted July 23, 2009 12:24 PM
Quinnie, I mainly look at the aspects between Sun/Moon/AC/IC/Saturn/DNA/Angel/Spirit/Alma, as well as Valentine/Union/Karma/Destinn, but I've spotted some interesting things! Well, you also have some objects (draco AC/tropical Angel) around the 27ºdegrees Taurus/Scorpio, and your draco Alma conjunct my SN; and also, your tropical Valentine and draco Karma/Destinn/Union is conjunct/oppose some of our (including my soul group) draco/tropical Karma/Destinn/Valentine!IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 01:00 PM
Hmm interesting...What does Alma represent?IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted July 23, 2009 01:28 PM
Alma means "Soul". X3With this it makes me wonder.. how big is a soul group actually? Also, how can we really determine for sure if we belong to the same soul group with someone? With my soul group for example, I'm not sure if it could have been just pure coincidence - maybe we can actually find someone with great astrological coincidences from almost every year anyways, since the celestial bodies are almost always traveling in line anyways? -, and besides, there's no exact formula to determine if we belong to the same soul group with someone or not. Yet I do think that we don't always meet a group in which everyone has something (mainly of spiritual objects) in 3 different common places (4 if we count the Sagittarius/Gemini axis with Karma/Union/Destinn/Valentine/Amor), and the weirdest of all, everyone's Saturn Reference chart's Eros are all in the same axis that is one of our common places. By the way, if you're interested:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201530.html *edit* aww I've just noticed that you already knew this thread lolol. XP IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 23, 2009 01:30 PM
Quinnie,you will not believe this, but i never before noticed, that my DNA is trine Talent! lol BTW Urania is on the same degree as Talent: Talent: 22°57 Aquarius
Urania: 22°47 Aquarius Psyche is on 24 Aquarius, Sumeria on 21 Aquarius, and DNA is on 20 Libra, Babel is on 21 Libra, Babylon on 24 Libra. Makes me think somehow that astrology is some sort of "talent" for me, and that I must have "inherited" it from Babylon or Sumeria. MMH, maybe I should look into Babylonian astrology?
Anyway I disgress, what do you think this Pluto-DNA means, as I have found it quite often in synastries. Well, in MY synatries at least. 
Alma is the spanish word for "soul", and mine is on 6° Aries conjunct my IC and Aura on 5 Aries and opposing Pluto on 9 Libra.
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DD
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posted July 23, 2009 01:38 PM
Comica,what is coincidence? To me it is things or events or even people that "coincide".
Well, to be honest I do not really believe in coincidence, in the sense that it is "meaningless", without meaning or purpose. Of course that means that I have a very expansive understanding of (soul) family, I admit.
BTW I did the shifted chart with the charturlers, as IQ suggested, and compared the shifted, Draconic and tropical chart.
And it turned out that my shifted Karma on 6 Cancer (which is a common degree anyway) conjuncts the Valentine, tropical, Draco or shifted, of every of the three men I compared it with!
There was also a creepy link up with the Eros-positions.
My Saturnic Eros is conjunct P`s tropical Eros.
J`s Saturnic Eros is conjunct A`s tropical ERos. And both degrees are square each other!
There is also a linkup with Saturn, Chiron and the likes and something with Valentine and Juno.
A`s and J`s Saturnic Valentine both fall exactly on 20 degree Aries.
My Chiron is on 20 degree Aries and my DNA is on 20 Libra.
P`s Draco Chiron is on 22 Libra. Something "coincided" I guess.  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 23, 2009 01:43 PM
I noticed something, maybe you did, too.
So did you notice, too, that often the divine SOULMATE pairs are brother and sister?
° Zeus / Jupiter - Hera / Juno
° Osiris - Isis
° Adonis - Innana / Ishtar / Astarte
And sometimes other sisters and brothers in mythology are called TWINS:
° Apollo - Artemis / Diana
° Castor - Pollux
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Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 01:45 PM
Comica I didsee your thread and wanted to explore it all further.....
It sounds like you may be doubting yourself slightly... "With my soul group for example, I'm not sure if it could have been just pure coincidence - maybe we can actually find someone with great astrological coincidences from almost every year anyways, since the celestial bodies are almost always traveling in line anyways? "
I thought that too but it all depends on whether you believe in reincarnation or not. If you do then just as everything repeats itself until the lesson is learnt, so will the astrological patterns and so there would be no such a thing as coincidence. I think most memers if not all here at LL are bound to be significantly astrologically connected, and even the same soul group.DD PLuto on dna... this person helps to evolve you genetically, so the connection would be at a very deep cellular level. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 01:58 PM
Have any of you ever read this lecture? http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/FouSou_index.html IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted July 23, 2009 02:30 PM
DD, yeah I also believe that things can't just happen out of coincidence. And I believe that things doesn't just happen randomly too.Quinnie, I must confess that I do have some doubts actually. Well, even thought I do feel more into the idea that reincarnation and soul exists, I'm not a firm believer of either the existence of it or not, so you can say that I'm trying to explore yet I don't 100% believe in it. ^_^; But then again, if not even a single part of myself does believe in such, then why would I have been researching about soul groups?
(guess that my Scorpio Pluto in the 3rd house and Taurus Mars in the 9th house makes me always questioning ^_^; ) IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted July 23, 2009 02:38 PM
Please read the link above, I know it's a little painful to read, but Rudolph Steiner is the bomb! I think it would help if the term 'soul group' was defined more clearly. Even the term 'soulmate' ignites debate by definition but I think it's healthy to have a good degree of doubt anyhow 
We are all in the same boat actually.IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 24, 2009 02:22 PM
it seems to me there ARE a lot of people here on LL who share significant points, the 26 tau/scorp, galactic centre and also mid-leo/aqua...haven't had time to read the steiner piece fully but these definitely correspond with the bull, lion, eagle and man.personally i have ic/mc at 26*19 sco/tau and sun/pluto at 16-17 leo...will look up some of those other bodies asap...also, i have NN on 18/19 aries, as does lara... and i know DD has some GC conjs - was it sun and merc? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 24, 2009 02:58 PM
Yes, Sun and Mercury on GC.20 degree Aries and LIbra are important, too for me.
20 degree Aries is my Chiron
20 degree Libra is my DNA
17 degree Aquarius is my Moon.
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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 24, 2009 03:11 PM
interesting thread. how would someone figure out thier "soul group"? my asc is 26 taurus IP: Logged |
DD
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posted July 24, 2009 03:33 PM
CPN,"That is what Iq wrote:
"Take your Saturn. The Astrologer is always the "Soul Captain" in a soul group, so her Saturn is the best reference point. [If there be 2 well versed astrologers in the group, make a composite.] Now shift your Saturn to 0 Aries. We are making a Saturn Reference Chart, just like we make Draconic Charts by shifting the True Node. Shift all planets accordingly. Now compare:
1. Draconic Chart of you 5 with your Saturn Reference.
2. Tropical Chart with your Saturn Reference. If you do not spot a Saturn Reference Moon or True Node conjunct Dr or Tropical True Node/KARMA/Saturn/Moon/Jupiter/SPIRIT/DNA or ALMA, just junk my theory and accept my apologies for eating up 2 hrs of your time. If you spot valid conjunctions or oppositions [avoid other aspects for now], note down your Saturn Reference Planetary degrees. See if Lunar transits to these produce fated interactions amongst you. If so, then I would boldly attest that you are indeed a Soul Family" Personally I would expect at least one conjunction, opposition, or antiscion / contrascion of the main players to IC: IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 24, 2009 03:51 PM
ok i think iq did some of this for me already...\Draconic-Natal Comparision
================================ Draconic PANDORA conjunct Natal Ascendant.
Asc is conjunct fixed Star ALGOL. Draconic Asc is conj Natal Retro Saturn, Dr TYCHE and Dr NIKE are conjunct Natal True Node. Dr SPIRIT is exactly conj Natal Mercury, With Dr Mars and Dr WISDOM conjunct Sun. HelioCentric
===================== Helio Mars conj SPIRIT, Dr SPIRIT was conjunct Mercury H. Jupiter and H. Venus trine H. Mercury is conjunct Galactic Centre. Progressed Chart
===================== Pr SPIRIT at 17.43 Scorpio conjuncting Pr Neptune.
Pr Sun is sextile Pr Neptune. Your Pr True Node isconj ALDEBARAN fixed star and Pr Asc is conj Sirius.
any clues here?
i guess katatonic is in my soul group, probobly 26t. seems like iq looked at that...hhhhmmmmmm....have to go find an old thread. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted July 24, 2009 03:53 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what's this about astrologers being Soul Captains? what does that mean?IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 24, 2009 03:56 PM
i wouldn't be surprised to find unmoved in my soul group too. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted July 24, 2009 03:58 PM
cpn- oh... I think I get it. The person studying the charts is the astrologer. My bad. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 24, 2009 03:59 PM
i was going to put some of cpn's positions here that also fit but that seems like messy boundaries...even if we are a soul family!not to mention that cpn and i have reversed axes, her AS=my IC and her IC=my asc! and i believe lara also falls in here, her asc=mine as well as her nodes...don't know about the other points though!! okay, edit: since we seem to be looking at a recurrence of mid leo-aqua, cpn has moon on 16+ leo, with neptune sq that at 17 scorp, and her SN is 1 degree from the great attractor...though we haven't mentioned that one it pops up for me here, since she also has sat at 17 pisces and pluto at 14 virgo, making a t-sq on the GA. i also have 17 virgo venus anyone else here have mid mutable points as well? (hope i am not derailing the main search here...or adding too many ingredients?) IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 24, 2009 04:13 PM
kat i don't mind you doing it. it is riveting. and you are more knowledgable than i about it fer sure.thanks for caring too, i would never cross your boundries without permission either. i was thinking this mornig what a beautiful movie would be dd's remembrance of atlantis as flashbacks from now, just sounded like a cool movie IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 24, 2009 04:16 PM
and the new kid.... dep taurus sun exact conj my asc and exact conjunct 26t sun..
i can't find the old thred. i can't remember who started it .ORBM, DD or Lara.
cant remember the name of the thread either.IP: Logged |
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