posted July 24, 2009 10:04 AM              

i looked onto ours.
I compared the 9TH-9TH and 9TH-Natals.

In fact it appeared some very interesting conections:

My 9TH-HIs NATAL

after work i will continue my researching

posted July 24, 2009 12:19 PM            

Vedic astrologers believe the birth chart to be an emanation of the physical existence, and the Navamsa - the 9th harmonic- is seen as a "soul-chart" and interpreted extensively.

Why the 9th?
Well, the 9th is associated with jupiter, and associated with happiness and all good things, spirituality and marriage in Vedic astroly (correct me if I amw rong).

The 7th would be associated with Venus - Shukra.
But she is not seen as purely positive, as she is associated foremost with sensuality.

Actually it is interesting that in WEstern astrology Venus became associated with marriage; personally I think that is a misinterpretation of her symbolism, coming from the equalizing of marriage with relationship / love in our age.

Even in Greek or Roman myths you can see clearly that Venus has a very selfish, superficial, yet sensual and lovely streak.
But she isn`t really the most faithful one, now is she?

I think that is the reason that Vedic astrologers use the 9th chart.

Also, the 9th chart is a chart where all noviles are highlighted, including the trine (3x40), which is seen also in Western astrology as harmonious, and it relates to the trinity, which equals completion in a spiritual context.
Actually novile-series is said to signify all these things: bliss, karmic completion and so on.

The 7th harmonic would highlight the septile series, a rather mysterious aspect, an irrational number.

There is also an article I once found on the 9th harmonic in synastry:
http://www.aquarius-atlanta.com/aug04/harmonic.shtml
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Varga/D9_Navamsha.htm#Navamsha and "Soulmate"

posted July 24, 2009 01:40 PM            

It's used to determine overall strengths of planets.

When a planet is in the same sign in both the rasi (the main chart) and the navamsha(9th harmonic chart) the planet is vargottma. It is said to be powerful.

for example. My Jupiter is in Scorpio in both the rasi and navamsha. Therefore, Jupiter is vargottma.

I thought about using the 9th harmonic in Western Astrology as a 2nd main chart too.

Raymond

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posted July 24, 2009 02:17 PM              

well...i jjust saw in other thread someone saying that the 9Th is the "Soulmate Chart",and it was related to Vedic Astrology.

i did a small research:btw DD your explanation is excellent
http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/qyzh.html

Some say that the 9Th ,as it stands for our inner self,our Soul,that it might show our later life,as then,we tend to live more through our own way,rather than through the conditioned elements of their early and physical life.
http://www.aquarius-atlanta.com/aug04/harmonic.shtml

this one talks about the 9Th and Soulmates:how the 9Th represents the Higher vibracional frequencies of Pluto.

9th represents the Hole Trinity (3x3):"This formula brings chemistry which can lead to marriage, a heavy, meaningful partnership or brings the characteristics to test you"

"this charts describes by parallel symbology your mate, or if unmarried, what turns you on to your destiny. Either marriage, or learning to live with the not self, serves as an earth test for completion."

posted July 24, 2009 03:22 PM              

9TH - TO 9TH

posted July 25, 2009 02:14 PM            

9th to 9th

-his NN conj my pluto exact
-my SN conj his jupiter exact
-my mercury and mars conj his neptune within 2
-his mars conj my neptune exact
-grand trine of my AC, my moon, his saturn within 2
-his stellium of merc, chiron, venus opposing his sun pluto AND uranus MC conjuncting my sun and chiron

(other than those last two i'm only counting tight conjunctions because i'm too lazy to calculate and i'm sure i've missed something)

-also our ACs are conjunct, but by 7

9th to natal/draco:

-my moon conj his MC exact
-my NN conjunct his chiron at 1
-my neptune conjunct his mars exact
-my saturn and jupiter conj his moon (2,3)
-my AC conj his sun/pluto (2,2)

-his MC conj my dr sun, merc, mars (2,3,3)
-his uranus conj my dr merc, mars (2,2)
-actually his whole stellium-opposition that i mentioned above also contains my draco jupiter and natal jupiter, sun, merc, mars as well.

posted July 26, 2009 06:19 AM            

Only after seeing the dominant theme (in conjunction / opposition) I would look at the other aspects, especially if they are part of planetary geometry.
So I think, having a T-square or Yod or Grand Trine can be very telling, too.

Actually I start getting fond of this perspective in synastry, too. To see the geometry rather than isolated aspects.

For example:
in my own natal I have

Moon on 17 Aquarius

Juno on 17 Pisces

Saturn on 17 Cancer

karma on 16 Gemini

I definitely feel that all those belong together or have to analysed together.
Also, synastric aspects to one of them, will mostly hit all.

posted July 26, 2009 07:23 AM            

° Karma conjunct Venus (and currently being hit by the transiting Jupiter, Chiron-Neptune-conjunction)

° Mercury conjunct MC, opposing Mars on the IC

°exact Juno-Saturn-conjunction exactly on the DSC

°Chiron conjunct Cupido

° Union conjunct Neptune conjunct True Node

° Vesta -Eros-conjunction

posted July 26, 2009 12:37 PM            

- his Moon (22º47' Libra) conjunct my Moon/Angel (24º19/24º36' Libra) and oppose my Sun (23º50' Aries);
- his Saturn (20º36' Virgo) conjunct my DNA (19º03' Virgo);
- my Juno (20º50' Scorpio) conjunct his Juno/Venus (22º06'/18º28' Scorpio);
- his AC is Capricorn 17º23' and mine is Cancer 6º15';
- etc. X3

*edited (20/9/2009)*

My 9th harmonic Siva is opposed to his 9th harmonic Kaali by some 0º14' degrees. O_o

Another fast look at our 9th harmonic charts and natal charts:

His 9th harmonic to my natal:

- Moon oppose Moon by 0º05' degrees;
- Mercury conjunct Sun;
- Venus conjunct SN;

My 9th harmonic to his natal:

posted July 30, 2009 12:00 PM            

OUt of the top of my head, we have>

- his 9th Sun conjunct my 9th Moon and Valentine

- his tropical Juno exactly conjuncts my 9th Juno, Saturn and DSC

- his 9th Moon conjuncts my tropical SN and DSC

- his tropical Amor conjuncts my 9th Venus and Karma

- his 9th psyche conjuncts my pluto

- my 9th ERos conjuncts his Sun

- his 9th Jupiter, True NOde and Destinn conjunct my 9th ASC

- my tropical Sun conjuncts his 9th DSC

- my 9th Pluto conjuncts his tropical Karma

- his 9th Cupid conjuncts my DSC exactly (and his tropical Cupid sits exact on my ASC)

posted August 02, 2009 07:07 PM            

I'd like to ask you what you make of these please cos they look very exciting to me

9th/9th
his VERTEX conjunct my LUST/APHRODITE
his VENUS conjunct my VERTEX
his MOON conjunct my DESTINN
his MOON opposes my VENUS
his JUNO conjunct my MOON
his GROOM/APHRODITE opposes my AC
his CUPID/SATURN conjunct my PLUTO
his KARMA conjunct my UNION/BRIEDE (0)
his KARMA opposes my VALENTINE
his AC conjunct my UNION/BRIEDE (1)
his AC opposes my VALENTINE
his UNION conjunct my CUPID
his OSIRIS conjunct my PSYCHE
his SIVA opposes my JUNO
his MARS/ATLANTIS conjunct my SUN
his NN/PSYCHE opposes my KARMA
his VENUS opposes my NN/MOON

9th/tropical
My AC conjunct his SUN
His AC conjunct my VALENTINE/OSIRIS
My AC opposes his EROS
His SUN opposes my LUST
My SUN opposes his ANGEL/JUNO
His MOON opposes my ANGEL/EROS
My MOON conjunct his PLUTO/UNION/DESTINN
My MOON opposes his ZEUS/AMOR
His VENUS conjunct my DNA
My VENUS opposes his SATURN (0)
His VENUS opposes my PLUTO
My PLUTO conjunct his JUNO
My JUNO conjunct his ANGEL
HIS JUNO OPPOSES MY SUN
His JUNO opposes my DNA
His 9th ANGEL conjunct my n ATLANTIS
His 9th ATLANTIS conjunct my n AURA
My 9th harmonic JUNO conjunct his natal JUNO
His NN opposes my EROS
My NN conjunct his PLUTO
My NN opposes his UNION/AMOR/ZEUS
His UNION opposes my OSIRIS
My UNION conjunct his APHRODITE
My UNION opposes his TYCHE
His VERTEX opposes my EROS/PLUTO
My VERTEX conjunct his ZEUS/AMOR
His GROOM conjunct my ISIS/UNION/MARS
My GROOM conjunct his PSYCHE/NN
His CUPID conjunct my SOULIE/IC

His BRIEDE conjunct my LARA/UTOPIA/DESTINN/APHRODITE
His BRIEDE opposes my EROS/TYCHE
My BRIEDE conjunct his SATURN
His 9th APHRODITE conjunct my natal ISIS/MARS
His 9th VALENTINE opposes my natal APHRODITE/UTOPIA
His 9th KARMA conjunct my natal VALENTINE
HIS 9th APHRODITE OPPOSES MY natal AMOR
His 9th KARMA opposes my natal DESTINN

DOUBLE WHAMMY'S 9th/tropical
My SATURN opposes his UNION
His UNION opposes my SATURN

My KARMA opposes his ISIS
My OSIRIS opposes his OSIRIS
My OSIRIS conjunct his KARMA

His EROS conjunct my LUST
My PSYCHE opposes his LUST/VALENTINE

My 9th Harmonic DESTINN conjunct his natal APHRODITE
My 9th Harmonic APHRODITE opposes his natal DESTINN

:O