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Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie Knowflake Posts: 18 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 11:26 AM
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evander Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 11:33 AM
everybody has those moments so chin up and focus on whatever the heck you consider your achievement no matter what character it is. and if u can't do that be around someone who likes you enough to do that for you IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 749 From: Meet Me In Sofia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 11:51 AM
What's wrong, STAP?IP: Logged |
Valus Knowflake Posts: 2147 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 11:56 AM
S.T.A.P.,I'm sorry you feel that way. I've been there many times myself, and I've tried lots of suggestions, but the only things that seem to work for me are relationships and healthy living. Having a supportive partner makes a huge difference for me. What I would recommend to you, if you feel up to it, is that you try eating a diet consisting of mostly raw, organic fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you can manage it, try eating no wheat, no dairy, and no meat. If you dont feel like a million bucks after two or three weeks of this, then I don't know what to tell you. There are a number of threads now in the Health and Healing forum which can help you learn about the Raw Foods movement. According to raw foodists, cooked food is poison; its not even food. After listening to what they have to say and observing the almost superhuman state of their health (and positive attitudes), I am starting to think they may be onto something. Also, I think that highly sensitive people (like us) can be even more susceptible to both negative and positive changes in diet. But, to answer your question, I'm really not skilled enough in horary astrology to forecast your death, or how you will die, and I seriously doubt anyone here is that skilled. All I can do is sympathize and tell you what is working for me. I sincerely wish you the best.
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Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 749 From: Meet Me In Sofia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 12:11 PM
I think she's having her Saturn return. Hang in there, STAP.IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 522 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 12:13 PM
I want to kill myself too! I'm sick of idle BS, job rejections, and well having a ****** birthday. But suicide is really not the best way Sweeter Than Apple Pie! Everyone has their own BS to deal with, so you're not alone! IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 12:17 PM
I feel really bad about this. I am very sorry. I truly empathize with you for I have been there myself many times. I am going to look at your chart.
HUGS
Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 12:25 PM
Sweeter_Than_Apple_Pie,Stop what you are doing right now. Take a deep breath. Call a friend and talk to them. Wanna talk to a silly stranger who wants to hear your story? Send me an email to consuela_castillo@yahoo.com YOU ARE NOT ALONE. You will receive enormous emotional support from people on this site. I am sorry I don't know that much about astrology to be able to help you with your chart. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2493 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 12:51 PM
Transiting Mars is squaring your Saturn is a transit that indicates that assertiveness,passion is in conflict with your tendency to be disciplined,structured. This could indicate potential for frustration,irritability. in extreme cases, there could be accidents,violence. in the most extreme case, death. In Cosmobiology, Mars/Saturn midpoint known as the death axis. The key to using this transit is to be disciplined in your actions and keep your anger in check as well as be realistic about any motivations that you have in your life. Transiting Mars is in your 8th house and Natal Saturn is 11th house............so with Mars in 8th, it involves shared resources in general ....it can be about other's money , could be about intimacy. 8th house is also associated with transformation,regeneration,death. with Saturn in 11th, it can involves hopes/wish, but also friendships,community. There could be a feeling that you have been let down by friends and/or intimate partner and could have problems trusting others. There also might be some financial issues. Transiting retrograde Jupiter-Neptune conjunction is in your 4th house and opposing your Jupiter in 10th.
It indicates the possibility of expansive deception,illusion,confusion in your domestic environment is at odds with expansion in your career,aim of life,social status. It could be about being torn between home and career. a great way to use this transit is channel it in spirituality. There can be the potential for much faith,inspiration,optimism.
It's trining your Moon in 12th which seems like a time for spiritual development. You will notice this more and more as the transit gets narrower and narrower in orb.
Transiting retrograde Eris is in your 6th house and opposing your Moon in 12th, and this could indicate the possibility of equality,diversity issues in work,daily routine that are at odds with your emotional nature, leading to issues with anxiety and worrying. There can be issues with controversy,discord with certain women in your life.
With Eris being a transneptunian, it's an intensifed evolutionary transit. A time where you could be going through intensified experiences that help you along your spiritual path.
with your Ascendant in 29'01 Libra/Aries, it seems like you were effected by the eclipse that was in your 9th house which seems like matters of faith,beliefs were in high focus. Belief systems can be tested,rocked during an eclipse in the 9th house.
You have prominent Chiron energy in your chart with the heliocentric Chiron Nodal axis on your Ascendant/Descendant axis so the wounded healer theme is strong in your life. wounds,pain,healing,teaching,holistic stuff,the maverick are themes of Chiron
Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
crabbypatty Knowflake Posts: 176 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 01:21 PM
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pire Knowflake Posts: 1261 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 02:23 PM
Sweetie, you'll be alright. Life sucks, and i think that somehow it's a good sign that we are evolving. But it's strange to think that we are evolving when life feels difficult. That is when we face death that we see the most valuable things in life. At my worst time, my sister told me to "take thing one at a time, second by seconds." she's a leo sun (12th) with an aries moon (8th) opposing pluto. Do you have family? Do you want to talk about them? Or anything else? I would like to talk about your chart. Im interested in your 12th house pluto moon, how do you feel about it? There is an intersting article on astro.com about the twelve house. Yin and crabbypatty gave you their mail, but you can always describe your situation on this thread if you want. Start, we'll sort you out. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 907 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 03:12 PM
Pluto has been squaring your ASC, Saturn and Uranus have been squaring your Neptune AND you're going through a Saturn return too.These are hard transits. Not to mention, I feel like 12th house Moon tend towards depression. I don't necessarily believe that transits create events. I think they create feelings in individuals and then individual may choose to act on those feelings. So I'm not going to say you WILL commit suicide, but obviously you're thinking about it. Please hang in there. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 212 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 03:18 PM
No, you won't. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 560 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 05:21 PM
STAP:Please listen to what everyone else is saying. You will be alright. You are going through a difficult and emotional time right now but you WILL make it through. Suicide is a permanent resolution to what are always temporary problems. I am sending you lots of Love & Light. I haven't posted in a while but felt compelled to respond to your obvious cry for help & support. If you need someone to talk to, I would love to chat. I will just listen...you can email me at starrxdlvr@msn.com. Please take care of yourself.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 343 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 05:26 PM
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lechien Knowflake Posts: 300 From: i live in a kitchen Registered: May 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 06:49 PM
there's nothing that makes you actually do something like that written on your astrology chart. everyone is meant to live!as deux-antares say, you may be going through a hard Saturn return. i felt like that too when i was going through my Saturn return. i really thought i couldn't go on. i thought it'd be impossible to ever get anywhere better than where i was back then. but now when i look at where i am, i am so happy for myself that i survived, because i have all this wonderful things, people and experience in my life now. hang in there, please. you will be at a better place soon, you will. IP: Logged |
aka Kat Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 30, 2009 08:00 PM
Actually you have some really great 11th and 10th house activities. Never mind the 12th house stuff. My 12th house is filled and I'm still alive at 46. You shine with friends and group activities. Why not connect with someone you have not seen lately? If you feel disconnected, know that this is temporary and you are destined for some really great meaningful friendships. You will also step out into the public arena with what you hold/love deeply and truly with the 10th house stuff. I recall feeling really down when I hit 30 and then again at 40. Looking back 30 is still so young and their was so much changing in my life. Every moment holds potential that we may not realize at the time. Every day, every hour, every minute, and every second I can still choose again. It's never too late. Really. Lately I've been really down on myself because I'm in a rut that I can't get out. So what do I do ? ruminate about it - for years and years. But I decided I can make some really small changes even now at my age. I'm trying to live my life day by day rather than working to achieve a goal.It seems like I never get there, so why not pitch the expectations. It's shifting from being product oriented to process oriented. ( www.ourbestversion.com ) Someone at work just told me about a friend who at 50 is finally moving to Santa Fe. she has always wanted to do this and now she's ready. About a month ago I read how some woman in her eighties runs ironman triathlons. She's a nun who started running at 50. Maybe try something nurturing like a massage or a bubble bath. Talk to a friend over lunch. Walk in the park. Journal about all the BS that's building up in your head. Make art. Listen to happy music. anyone know some really happy music? IP: Logged |
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 121 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 01:03 AM
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm why are we assuming she is gng through a suicidal phase...maybe somebody told her that she will kill herslef and she got scared and is asking that does her chart shows any such tendency ...just a thought
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 01:10 AM
lol Emma. 12th house activity is never easy. I have a moon in the 12th too, so I understand the oddities to an extent I think Plus Pluto there too... whew.
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DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1037 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 01:15 AM
hey im sorry you are feeling like this. and i know how it goes believe me i do non stop since 15. just wondering why you were asking this question was it because you feel like you might do something or is it just because you want to know if you could do it. because your not gunna get an answer from your birth chart. anybody can be suicidal so asking stuff about your chart i dont know if its going to give an answer thats somehwat right.IP: Logged |
Taurean_Scorpion Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Santa Monica, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 01:21 AM
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 355 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 02:36 AM
If you didn't do it when you were 12 or 13, you won't do it now. Your chart shows that you've got strength to cope and a few good luck measurements in there, too. Heck, I wish I had Jupiter square Uranus and Jupiter sextile Pluto. Not only that, at some point very soon transiting Jupiter will oppose your Sun-Venus conjunction. That REWARD!! So hang in there, you'll get your opportunity. IP: Logged |
aka Kat Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 06:29 AM
Emma She did not clarify. Even entertaining the thought is grounds enough to seek immediate therapy. Better safe than sorry. IP: Logged |
ginger cancer Knowflake Posts: 36 From: torre de hercules Registered: Jul 2009
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posted July 31, 2009 07:59 AM
geocosmic valentine, since you are mentioning jupiter square uranus and jupiter sextile pluto, could you explain the good side of these aspects?IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1259 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 01, 2009 07:03 AM
Someone must have scared her about the 12th house Pluto and Moon stuff....Suicide is against Divine Law, and Divine Law transcends religious dictums. If any native commits suicide, the next incarnation gives even tougher lessons. That is the best incentive to avoid taking your own life. Even Royalty upto early 20th century did not have Air conditioning, Mobiles, iPods and Ice cream. We should not have to be upset ever
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