posted August 03, 2009 01:57 PM         

myself, i'm very secretive about very private, personal matters. either i'm secretive or i'm vague. but some people i know, they get upset if someone tells someone else what they did for the weekend or if they play an instrument. that kind of secretiveness, i just don't get.

posted August 03, 2009 02:22 PM         

Maybe I just have trust issues on the other hand.

I've been seeing a psycho analyst (since I myself want to become one) and she insist that sharing secrets with friends is good, gives relief etc. So far I severely disagree. I've never felt easier upon sharing something that buggs me, I just couldn't stop thinking about how that person knows my private thing now so they will realize some implications.

And I hate when distant family gets updated on my life by my mother. I get very ****** off at that

posted August 03, 2009 02:55 PM         

i see a lot of negative, almost angry reactions. it seems to be about trust more than anything.

i guess myself...i'm a pretty open person but i keep private personal things to myself. i come from a big family and a small town so nothing is ever a secret. i also tend to see the good in others and don't think that they will use any insignificant information about insignificant me for malicious reasons.

plus if people find out stuff about me, well they find out. i'm fine with keeping it real with people and telling it like it is about myself if they confront me about it. it's too tiring to hold stuff. and even more tiring trying to think everyone is out to get me or use my "secrets" against me.

posted August 03, 2009 03:53 PM         

I know two people who are pretty evasive and they are both Scorpio Rising.

posted August 03, 2009 04:09 PM         

i guess i should be more clearer in my original post. what i meant was like secretive or evasive about mundane, unimportant things. like i find it annoying when secretive types get all bent out of shape if people ask them stupid stuff like what did you have for lunch today? you know, benign stuff like that. it's like calm down, you're not that important!

i guess the secretive or evasive people i come across, they act as if any info about them is like trade secret or like gold or something. sometimes i feel like being mean and telling them hey stop being so self centered and stop thinking everything about you is so important.

okay i was really mean but sometimes i feel like saying it to their faces like what's your problem? but i should also add that these people have a lot of issues and don't trust people easily.

posted August 03, 2009 05:13 PM         

But personally I think that sharing informations about yourself (not everything though) is the only way of getting close to one another.
If I didnīt feel like I can share some thoughts or feelings with my friends, I would not call them friends.
A friend, I feel I cannot trust, is not a friend in my opinion.

But not being able to share something that is important to me AT ALL, is just a horrible thought to me. Even though I agree, one has to be a bit careful of what to share.

But then I am no Scorpio; I am a Sag with Aquarius-Moon. Maybe that explains this post.

EDIT:
BTW I had meat with potatoes, brokkoli and cauliflower for lunch, which my mum had cooked.

Okay, I know that it does not interest anyone at all.

posted August 03, 2009 05:31 PM         

I will share as much as I want people to know and depends on who it is, how close I am to them. Most friends know everything about me, acquaintances - not everything, just what I want them to know.

The office I work in, people thrive on gossip and in some cases, making up things about people.

posted August 03, 2009 05:42 PM         

It made me laugh.

edit: What's strange personally is that people don't snoop if you're not defensive. Give them a little and they leave the bulk of the info alone. So, with that said, I have a lot of people who think they know me who don't, because it is merely less work for me than to be on the defense all the time.

"If you resist, it persist. If you face it, it goes away."

I would say that I am both secretive and private, but I choose my battles, so to speak. I will not be unnecessarily secretive if it doesn't serve me to be so. I am more comfortable being private, but it doesn't serve me all the time. So, I only speak with a purpose, and I also with-hold info for a purpose, not just for the sake of the act.

Also, I don't really have secrets of my own because secrets about the self, if they are an effort to keep hidden usually end up making you their slaves. I don't try to be mysterious, but apparently I am. So...

You see... I have 3 things working against each other in my chart, i.e. my strong 1st house and my strong 12th house, with my strong Moon cnj MC.

posted August 03, 2009 08:32 PM         

sometimes their need for absolute secrecy becomes a burden for me because i believe in the good of people. i'm not paranoid about people like if they have ulterior motives. the truth can't hurt me. if someone knows a truth about me, well whatever then, it's the truth. i can't do anything about it if they know. i can't control others but i can control me. i know myself and i am an honest person. i don't care to hide myself. i take issue with people who are so concerned about hiding themselves that their secrecy burdens me. and yet they themselves partake in gossip and ask questions and all that....it bothers me...

like when i got in trouble for the instrument thing. honestly it's a well-known fact this person is trained in this instrument. someone asked about taking lessons about said instrument. i told the person oh my friend teaches this. perhaps she can help you figure out where to take lessons or what you should look for in lessons.

my secretive friend comes back to kind of chide me about did you tell her i played this instrument? (like she wasn't pleased i gave it up that she was trained in the instrument). i explained to her how i said well she was at a loss of where to begin, i asked her to consult you for where to go from there. i felt a bit like AHHHHHHHH!!!! what the hell is wrong with people?????!!!!

okay seriously now, this secretive friend is a musician...everyone knows you play instruments!!! get over yourself!!!

i'm not surprised that my secretive friends barely have any genuine friends themselves. i believe you only get what you give and if you give little, well you get very little. and these people are proof of that.

posted August 04, 2009 02:31 AM         

I noticed 8th house placements and 12th house placements or Scorpio/Pisces can show if a person tends to be the reservoir for other people's secrets, especially with planets like neptune or pluto in them because many people will have that planet placed in your 8th/12th house as well and they are the most "mysterious" planets. I have Neptune and Mars in the 8th, and I tend to have a lot of secrets involving mars issues (not just sexual ) known only to the people involved if any. I don't worry about it though. If those secrets got out I'd just deal with it. At the same time I've had quite a few people go absolutely nutters in front of me, and I automatically keep that under lock and key unless the person might harm themselves or needs psychological counsel... which happened a couple of times.

posted August 04, 2009 07:54 AM         

okay said friend has a myspace music page and a whole bunch of us (like acquaintances and not friends of hers) tried to help her get her cd made. when i told the mutual friend about the instrument thing, i was very careful still. i was like oh ask her but just ask her about where you should start in taking lessons and what books you should look at. but don't ask her for personal lessons or anything like that.

see, i actually respect people's weirdness issues and work hard to cover them as if i were that person and the question were asked of me. it's like trying to navigate landmines for me and i'm tired out.

sorry now i'm like venting over these sorts! didn't mean to veer the conversation this way, but i'm going through some changes and right now i'm tired of crazy people trying to be my friend but then i gotta shoulder their craziness because i'm associated with them. it makes me wonder okay why look to me to be your good friend then? i believe in openness and honesty. i respect privacy and all that but sometimes people's insane need to be private wears me down.

what irks me is when these people investigate other people and myself about everything but if you turn the tables, they get all bent out of shape. i haven't looked into that friend's chart but this other friend does have some scorpio planets in the 12th house and he's insane about privacy too. sure, it's okay to ask me a bazillion questions but it's not okay if i ask the same questions back. like i'll give you a straight up answer, but this dude will be vague and evasive. all the while i'm thinking to myself hey wait a second, YOU asked the question of me FIRST. it's only fair if you ask it of me, then i get to ask it of you.

right now for some reason i'm hanging around a lot of scorpios and people with heavy scorpio planets and they are wearing me down. i'm a cancer with no real pattern of planets save a lot of 11 & 10 planets. i also have a concentration of "mutable planets."

posted August 04, 2009 08:07 AM         

my best friend actually told me how she can't believe i keep attracting all of these self-centered people towards me. that's her take on these sorts that they're self-centered. and honestly they are self-centered but just so happen to be burdened with secrets but everything is a secret to them it seems.

i'm definitely a very curious person like i love talking about anything and everything including controversial things just to see a friend's perspective, but i know to slam on the brakes and let the other person divulge and then i'll just sponge it all up and remember it forever. i sometimes feel as if i gotta pull myself back to accomodate these people and i'm tired of it.