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Writesomething
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posted August 06, 2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/06/gym.shooting.video/index.html

His birthday was listed on his blog for 9/30/1960 http://www.paulanealmooney.com/george-sodini-blog-website-heres-george-sodini-blog-website-and-la-fitness-gym-shooters-online-diary-web-page-the-black-man-obama-and-gun-show-stuff/ 1404/

Heres his chart(Not his real birthtime):


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Lonake
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posted August 06, 2009 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
heard the story and looked at the chart yesterday, the blog regarding early authority figures/series of frustrations no matter how much effort he put into planning and changing, matches up to that t-square in a very stereotypical way.

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posted August 06, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
On a hunch, I checked to see if he had any significant transneptunian natal aspects to
personal planets...especially Venus.
I only looked at the big ones which are the dwarf planets/Plutoids and dwarf planet/Plutoid candidates

These are energies so metaphysical that there can problems on the physical plane. In this case, serious psychological problems.

I only looked at the hard ptolemaic aspects with only 3 degree orb


His Venus-Neptune in Scorpio trine Mars in Cancer sextile Pluto in Virgo doesn't look like problems with lovelife


dwarf planet/Plutoid, Makemake (named after Rapanui Creation/Fertility God) is in 4'06 Leo,and so that squares his Venus.
Venus square a Plutoid would indicate the love nature/relating being so metaphysical that there can be problems on the physical plane. In this case,serious psychological problems that manifested into murder and suicide.

according to Philip Sedgwick, negative keywords for Makemake:
Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

His Venus oppose/conjunct the heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'20 Taurus/Scorpio . This could indicate his love nature/relating is connected to collective controversy,bigotry,ideology,discord

negative Eris keywords according to Philip Sedgwick:
Negative - greed, workaholism, believe that you must take over for God, general sense of being forsaken, condemned or abandoned, lack of spiritual regard for life, superficial, status oriented.

dwarf planet/Plutoid candidate, Sedna (named after Inuit Sea Goddess) is in 27'41 Aries in opposition to his Mercury, and this could indicate the possibility of pathological thoughts,perception of being a victim and abused that can lead. With Mercury in opposition to a Plutoid candidate, the thinking/communiation is so metaphysical that there can be problems on the physical plane. In this case, serious psychological problems involving thought of being a victim,abused.

negative Sedna keywords according to Philip Sedgwick:
Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious


also the Mercury-Sedna opposition is on the
heliocentric Chiron Node axis in 28'49 Libra/Aries, and so connected to collective wounds,pain


His Orcus (named after Roman God of Death) is in 9'46 Cancer, and that squares his Sun
this could indicate his ego/self expression in conflict with matters involving oaths,promises, and death matters. With Sun square a Plutoid candidate, his ego is so metaphysical that there can problems on the physical plane. In this case, serious psychological problems leading to death.

negative keywords for Orcus:
Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises


Other things of note:

His 2002 AW197 is in 5'28 Cancer,and so it conjuncts his Mars and square his Sun. With a Plutoid/dwarf planet candidate conjunct Mars and square Sun, the passions/assertion and ego/self expression are so metaphysically oriented that there can be problems on the physical plane. In this case, serious psychological problems.

negative keywords for 2002 AW197 according to Philip Sedgwick:
Negative: Greedy, manipulative via monetary means, financially controlling.

The positions can be checked here http://www.true-node.com/pos/


I believe that Pluto's fellow transneptunians add more detail, fill in the blanks.
http://www.philipsedgwick.com/


He had strong Transneptunian energy. Philip Sedgwick says that transneptunian objects are intensified evolutionary objects. Therefore, this man had intensified evolutionary lessons/experiences which he couldn't handle.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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amowls*
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posted August 06, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I first read about this on Gawker and the first thing that sprung to me was the blatant misogyny.

Jezebel had a good article about it too: http://jezebel.com/5331406/gym-gunman-was-not-alone-the-making-of-a-misogynist-murderer

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Glaucus
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posted August 06, 2009 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Here is his chart with the transneptunians discussed


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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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Dervish
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posted August 06, 2009 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
That Jezebel site had interesting info. Anywhere else to find it, though? It slowed my computer down too much and had the drive screaming from handling that much data at once and I finally had to give it up. But I'd really like to see that in more detail....

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belgz
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posted August 06, 2009 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
The eclipse opposed his moon i reckon we went lunar looney lol

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•' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ •

•Sun• Cancer
•Moon• Gemini
•Mars• Cancer
•Mercury• Cancer
•Venus• Leo

•••Virgo Rising•••

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posted August 07, 2009 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Notable Asteroids in Natal of the shooter:
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KARMA conj DEJANIRA exact square Pluto: He had victimization karmic debts to resolve.
Instead of saving, he chose to perpetrate and hence earned negative karma for another incarnation, where he has to be shot many times to death to balance the debts.
edit: Or save many more people. There are many ways to balance karma, we only know the tip of the iceberg.

NESSUS exact square Chiron: Past life and present life wounds from abuse. He may have been abused as a child too.

TRANSYLVANIA sq Uranus exact: Potential to suddenly cause bloodshed.

KAALI exact conj NEMESIS conj True Node: Potential to be astrally posessed by negative entities and inspire bloodshed. Could be a programmed sleeper person as well, whose programming went kaput.

Transit Triggers (excluding Mr Eclipse):
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1. TRANSYLVANIA is in the dangerous cabal degree of 29-30 Capricorn.
2. Pluto and Dejanira are exactly square, so the next few days are still dangerous.
3. Venus conj his Mars, prolonged sexual trigger.


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http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html

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Writesomething
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posted August 07, 2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
His moon sq neptune tells me this guy has delusions about women, he has issues seeing things clearly. Moon in Aquarius, shows very strong issues with his mother...This is why people need to raise their children correctly. I know ppl with worst Moon placements that have very loving parents...just a shame he couldnt have been raised right. I think he had a lot of selfesteem issues, and lived in lala land. What really stood out was the Pluto conj NN in Virgo. SN in Pisces...this man had karma attached to living in a fantasy world. I think he had karma/past life where he had intense mental issues.

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Glaucus
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posted August 07, 2009 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
There is no birthtime for him, and so aspects to Moon are questionable...especially when you consider the average movement of the Moon is 13'10 per day.
That's why I didn't bother mentioning any lunar aspects...especially not with transneptunians which I use only 3 degree orbs for.

also his Venus conjunct Neptune can indicate a potentially overidealistic,unrealistic love nature,relating,anima
the square to the transneptunian, Makemake makes sense because it's a highly metaphysical object with it orbiting beyond Neptune, the planet of dissolution boundaries. so his love nature,relating,anima are so metaphysically oriented to the point that he can have problems functioning on the physical plane....this is especially so with hard aspect like the square.


Raymond
(hiding his Pisces Moon square Neptune)
hahahahaha

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted August 08, 2009 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
I almost think that he might have a sag rising. I read he was taking some sort of dating younger women seminar... (DC gemini)...
Plus the chart sort of fits...
Pluto on the MC, his death is in the public eye.(maybe change the time a bit to put it in 10th).. Im thinking sag...but who knows.

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Nine
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posted August 08, 2009 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
The Sagittarius and Leo vibe is coming from his Numerology. Birthday # 3, and Lifepath #1.

Says Linda in STAR SIGNS (of #1s): ...no one can be more generous, and benevolent. [but]...they can be dangerous when ignored. Being in love, and being loved is as vital and necessary to them as the very air we breathe.

As someone who has had the pleasure of running into a Libra w/ Venus in Scorpio (10.19.XX), it's true, they're dangerous when ignored.

Reading his blog I picture someone burning to be in a relationship, but rejected at every turn.

quote:
Instead of saving, he chose to perpetrate and hence earned negative karma for another incarnation, where he has to be shot many times to death to balance the debts.

What will happen to the Karmic count of his shooters? Will it go up, down, or remain unchanged?

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Lonake
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posted August 08, 2009 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
eye for an eye, huh..

the karmic logic there doesn't sit well with me.

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