posted August 06, 2009 06:35 PM         

Please i want to get it out of here so fast but its still very powerful right now. And also my jupiter conjunct moon is going soon. Oh august is turning out to be a very great month.

i also wanted to run this by you what orbs do you usually use with transitis is five degree orb good or should it be even wider when it comes to the outer planets.

someone wrote once that pluto neptune and uranus transitis to any planet should have a 10 degree orb.

saturn and jupiter 5 degree orb. and the rest sun moon mercury venus and mars should have 2-3 degree orbs.

posted August 06, 2009 06:40 PM         

also...I think that Right Ascension and Declination Longitude Equivalent can easily account for those wide orbed transits seeming to work. They can also account for transits to start earlier and last longer than what is expected.

Midpoints might also account for wide orbed transits.

as I pointed out long time ago, transits involving Pluto's fellow transneptunians could account for wide orbed Pluto transits seeming to work....especially the plutinos which have similar orbits like Pluto. Orcus and Ixion come to mind. Sedna transits might feel like Neptune transits, but more otherworldly to the point that they can be hard to handle if they are hard aspects. Eris transits might feel like Uranus,Jupiter transits, but more otherworldly and involved in issues with diversity,ideology,controversy,discord,equality.

would it be ok to check your Right Ascension and Declination Longitude Equivalent transits?

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 06, 2009 06:48 PM         

I can just use my solar fire to calculate the charts. I can post them too....so you can get visuals and see the difference.

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 06, 2009 06:51 PM         

p.s please explain to me what right ascension is because for some reason i keep thinking about the ASC.

posted August 06, 2009 07:26 PM         

In your regular chart, transiting Saturn is opposing your Mars with 1 minute of arc separating

In your Right Ascension chart, transiting Saturn is opposing your Mars with 7 minutes of arc separating

In your Declination Longitude Equivalent, transiting Saturn is opposing your Mars with 31 minutes of arc applying

Right Ascension is Equatorial Longitude.
The Right Ascension Chart used is the Right Ascension coordinates converted into zodiac equivalents.

for example 0'01 = 0'01 Aries
30'01 = 0'01 Taurus

Astronomers use Right Ascension and Declination (Equatorial Latitude) to locate objects.

I use no more than 3 degree orb for an applying conjunction,opposition,trine,square
I use no more than 2 degree orb for an applying sextile
I use no more than 1 degree orb for an applying quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate
I use no more than 1 degree orb for a separating conjunction,opposition,trine,square
I use no more than half a degree orb for a separating sextile
I use no more than around 10 to 15 minutes of arc for a separating quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate

the orbs get more complicated with transneptunians,centaurs,and asteroids

this includes not only regular charts, but also Right Ascension and Declination Longitude Equivalent charts.

houses and signs aren't used in Right Ascension,and so ignore them. The aspects do count though.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 06, 2009 07:43 PM         

wow in my right ascension my moon is exactly opposite my ASC. wow
and my saturn trine sun is in a wider orb then in my natal chart. and mars is in a tighter orb sextiling my sun. this is great. everything is equal but everything seems to have changed a degree or two.
this is great glaucus.

posted August 06, 2009 08:49 PM         

"wow glaucus first off you need to right a book or something because you have such a great way with words and you need to get all this stuff on paper. you could call it raymonds guide to astrology 101."
Thank you for the compliments

"my ceres is in leo in the 12th house i wonder what that means.hey glaucus what is this program can it interpret what it means."

I used Solar Fire for to calculate the charts

it has interpretations for Ceres sign/house placement, but no aspects

Ceres in Leo:
You feel cared for when other people play with you and praise you. You like to show others you care for them by encouraging their creative talents and sense of fun.

Ceres in 12th:
You nurture yourself and others when you feel you are giving to the universe. You may suffer loss or ill health. Your spiritual lesson is to help others who are suffering.

"if i wanted to check transits would right ascension charts be better way to check out transits then say natal ."

not necessarily
They just give more insight,detail,multidimensional view,and help see the big picture.
not 2 dimensional like when you just view the ecliptic longitude chart
the sky has more than 2 dimensions

Here is multidimensional view of my chart

My regular chart

my declination longitude equivalent chart

my right ascension chart

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 07, 2009 08:26 AM         

your true node Aka north node is exactly cojunct my north node in aquarius. i bet we were linked in a past life as good friends.

your sun is opposite my mercury
your sun is also square my true node and square your own true node as well.
your sun also is opposite my own sedna.
also it trines my jupiter.

your moon sextile my uranus trine my jupiter and setiles my mercury how cool.

your mercury opposes my MC and conjunct my pluto. sextiles my vertex and neptune conjunction. also it trines my ceres. and my mars as well.

your venus cojunct my pluto and opposes my sun and sextile my saturn.ooooooh ouch square moon and asc and makes a t-square.

your mars is conjunct my moon and square sun and oppposite my Asc and forms another t-square.

jupiter sextile true node that means in a past life we could have made good fortune together or made some huge scam and gave us lots of money or something.

your saturn is trine my true node.

your uranus is exactly opposite my venus.it square my uranus and vertex.

plut o trines my sun and saturn and forms a grand trine.

posted August 07, 2009 02:19 PM         

That's because Pluto has a significant difference in position compared to the regular planets. Remember Pluto is not a typical planet. Unlike the planets, Pluto has a highly elliptical orbit. It's very eccentric in its orbit. It tends to orbit well off th ecliptic. Therefore,it has a high inclination. Pluto orbiting on the ecliptic is not common.
Because of its size and orbit, astronomers doubted that Pluto was really a planet. Then they found the kuiper belt and found a whole bunch of objects like Pluto that convinced them that Pluto is just one of thousands of objects in the kuiper belt.

therefore, it's no wonder that there would be significant difference in position/transits with Pluto

This easily accounts for astrologers getting away with wide orbs with Pluto.

if you look at the charts that were posted, Pluto has a significant difference in Right Ascension chart and Declination Longitude Equivalent chart from the regular chart which is ecliptic longitude.

so do other transneptunians like Eris and Sedna

that's what makes Pluto and fellow transneptunians very different from the planets.

centaurs also have highly eccentric orbits and high inclination, and so there are significant differences with them too.

same with a lot of asteroids like Ceres

in DepTaurus' example

her Venus is conjunct Eris in her regular chart.
in her Declination Longitude Equivalent chart, she has Venus conjunct Sedna

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 07, 2009 02:31 PM         

I am very sorry!

there is just so many women on the forum that sometimes take for granted that women are posting.

hahahahaha

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 12, 2009 11:32 PM         

actually it is pretty cool but i am still really emotional.dont you just hate that water trine we have its annoying. dont you think.

posted August 13, 2009 01:02 AM         

and hey why dont we. i now will have your chart so ill act so much more emotional.

we can switch it for two weeks. ill tell you what its like for me. first you have to be simple and just relax i do that alot i relax. and when it comes to emotions or other peoples **** and there problems you have to be detached. stand by and just watch most times i just walk in and out of rooms and ignore people just be detached.

if you have any pointers on what i should be like since you know yourself better. we can start anytime you wnat maybe even after you post back.