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Topic: Solar Arcs Or Secondary Progressions?
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 07:14 PM
I've read that Solar Arcs are more accurate than Secondary progressions because the movement of the house cusps are based on the movement of the MC. What do you use? Solar Arc link: http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Solar_Arc
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 10:48 PM
That surprises me that no one has ever used solar arc progressions before. They really are more accurate than a normal progressed chart. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1076 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 10:49 PM
I know, I hear it all the time! I totally want to know how to do them, but I think you need some kind of software, right? Because it's hard to figure out. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1048 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 11:07 PM
shrugsI use solar arcs regularly. They are regular part of Uranian Astrology,Cosmobiology, and Noel Tyl Astrology. Noel Tyl acts like he discovered them. He wrote book on Solar Arcs Solar arc pictures tend to be psychological, but when triggered by transits can indicate events.
only the hard aspect series are used conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate uranian astrologers also the 16th harmonic aspects too. the one thing to understand about solar arcs pictures is that they last 1 year, and use no more than 1 degree 30 minutes of arc applying = 6 months till exactness 30 minutes of arc separating = 6 months after exactness 1 degree = 1 year they are away to pin down events during a specific 12 month period. the solar arcs are mainly using the secondary progressed Sun's movement and using that same Sun's secondary progressed movement and applying it to everything else in the chart. That's why it's called Solar Arc.
Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 02:21 AM
I'm so glad, that someone knows more about solar arcs than me! I'm pretty much an amateur when it comes to solar arcs, but I do know that you can cast solar arc charts on astro.com. I really want to buy some real astrology software, but I'm broke and a MAC user. What software do you use Glaucus? IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 619 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 03:25 AM
If the question was paper or software my answer would be paper. I plotted a grid of Progressions and Solar Arcs running through major events in my life. Both are revealing. Solar Arcs can be quite striking in their symbolism. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1048 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 04:05 AM
"I'm so glad, that someone knows more about solar arcs than me! I'm pretty much an amateur when it comes to solar arcs, but I do know that you can cast solar arc charts on astro.com. I really want to buy some real astrology software, but I'm broke and a MAC user. What software do you use Glaucus? "I use Solar Fire. Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 57 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 10:18 AM
maybe i am unique. Secondary progression allways have a deep and strong change of existense and way of living.solar arc for me is more psykological. when i got my son, divorced and getting togheter with an other man in 1984. I have strong conection from venus, mars to neptunus. I also have connection from Sun in sextil to venus (in sec progression) The aspect in my solararc to natal planets except sun to venus i had that year is as follows. Only pluto square mars. it´was deep pain feelings. My second divorce in 1998 my sec progression also is in strong effekt. Sun conj pluto. The solar arc the same of course. In 2007 my solar arc venus conj asc/sun in leo, i met a man. It´was one On and off relationship. My feelings for all that got me to understand what i want. Now my sec progression venus conj my sun/venus in leo. I hope i get what i want I hope you understand my SWENGLISH IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 01:06 PM
I've mostly been interpreting secondary progression charts, and I don't know if it is a coincidence or not but my progressed chart is progressed to the same day and year as the person who I am currently dating. The only difference is that my ASC. is different, but for the most part the chart looks the same. I'll have to look into solar arcs more, Popcorn, and see if I notice any psychological things in the solar chart verses progressed chart. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1048 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 02:25 PM
actually Cosmobiologists believe that secondary progression and solar arc pictures are psychological unless they are triggered by transit for example
Solar Arc Venus aspecting (conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate) Natal Sun/Moon midpoint may indicate the wanting of a relationship transiting Mars aspecting (conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate) it can indicate the wanting of a relationship manifesting as an actual event of starting a relationship I share the same views as cosmobiologists
Raymond
------------------ “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 18 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 01:08 PM
plus SA on Angles always show events. life changing kind. IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 05:36 PM
quote: ... and I don't know if it is a coincidence or not but my progressed chart is progressed to the same day and year as the person who I am currently dating. The only difference is that my ASC. is different, but for the most part the chart looks the same.
This is classic progression. When the progressed chart one person makes an aspect to another person's natal or progressed chart, the two people are drawn to each other like magnets. This happend to me and one of my best friends growing up. He's born on the 3rd, me the 9th, same year, same month. Our parents were friends so we interacted a lot, but I still had outside friends. The year his progressed chart conj. my natal we did everything together; before school, during school, and after school. His parents were strict, so the after school bit was saying a lot...I'd found my Gemini twin. The year after that we were put in different classes. And the year after that, he transferred to another school. Devastating...I'm still not sure whether I've gotten over that or not. Studying astrology, and progressions in particular has really helped me understand people, relationships, and why certain things happen. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 09:09 PM
That is really interesting Nine, about your Gemini twin, are you still in contact with this person? My birthday is 21 days before the person I'm dating and well, I happen to be 21, so my progressed Sun exactly conjuncts his natal Sun at 27' Leo, my progressed Vertex is also exactly conjunct his natal ASC, and my progressed moon was at 26' degrees Scorpio when I first met him, which makes my progressed moon conjunct his natal Moon along with Venus, Mars and Jupiter. Also his progressed moon was at 3 degrees Virgo which opposes my natal Moon at 4 degrees Pisces, when we met and his progressed Venus is at 3 degrees Leo which conjuncts my natal Mercury, and Mercury is the ruler of my natal Venus in Gemini. Wow, this really boggles my mind, that I've found so many connections in like the past 5 minutes. Do you think, since my progressed chart is more similar to his natal chart, that he feels more of a connection with me or that I feel more of a connection with him? IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 127 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 15, 2009 03:12 PM
Hi, V. I was looking for this thread... I think the feeling between you and the person you're seeing is about the same. It's just that you will express your feelings your way, and he in his way. I'm no longer in touch with my childhood buddy. The conj. took place when we were 7 years old, over twenty years ago. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 16, 2009 12:32 AM
Its always sad when you lose touch with childhood friends. I've tried to reconnect with old friends, but I tend to feel the same about them as when I first met them, which isn't a good thing if at the time you were a vulnerable, clingy individual, because suddenly all these inferiority complexes come out again even though its not the persons fault. But then there are some amazing reunions with old friends that make you wonder why you ever took a break from being their friend. I have Pluto in Scorpio in the 11th house, so my friendships are very extremist either were very close or short lived friends.
As far as that person I talking about earlier, I haven't seen him in three months and I'm worried that we won't hit it off like we used to. I still keep in touch with him, but the thought of clinging to a relationship that has already served its purpose is really unnerving. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 57 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 16, 2009 01:54 PM
I who not never take a look at solar arc just take a look. My progress pluto conj valentine, Siva sextile my wertex, amor in sag. There is an exaktly aspekt now between all this asteroids and wertex.My progress karma, neptunus, medusa in Sag also exaktly opposition my venus in twins. Can someone tell me what that mean for me and my future? I have no ide and i not feel i am be in developing. Much intressting. I have never looked at this before.
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astroleolady Knowflake Posts: 4 From: in the ether Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 04:37 AM
I think the both methods work and have their merits. I use both methods regularly.IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 57 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 07:33 AM
I will be more observant now regarding the solar arc and i think it is very interesting. Im going to follow my process with all the aspect i have exatly now.Sec progress have i follow for me and other people in many year and i know that work. IP: Logged |