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Topic: are there any special aspects for on-again, off-again relationships?
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rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 02:26 PM
Hi Lechien, Are you serious about this friend? I realize that it is on and off but do you see yourself with him in the future?IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 18 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 04:19 PM
and nobody even mentioned Venus?!? or say... Venus in contact to Uranus IP: Logged |
lechien Knowflake Posts: 208 From: i live in a kitchen Registered: May 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 06:40 PM
rajin, to be honest, "yes"? i can't be certain at this point at all, but i have a strange vision of us sticking around for the rest of our lives. it might just be wishful thinking, but the idea is strangely comfortable. at the same time i feel that if we become more definitely like a couple, it will bore me. i think he feels similar too, and there's always hesitation from both side. i've never had any relationship like this before. when we are not sexually active, we are like an old retired couple. when we are, we are like 2 sex addicts. there's always a strange tension that can be stressful or exciting depending on the circumstances. IP: Logged |
savanna20 Knowflake Posts: 105 From: ca Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 06:46 PM
Yeah, venus uranus would be my guessIP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 07:23 PM
I had Venus conjunct my ex-husband's Uranus. We were married and at first he was a little bit flaky but he seemed to know exactly what he wanted with me lolAlso, what about what's in the natal charts? For instance I have Moon/Uranus opposition but I never have cheated or wanted to when with someone I am committed to. I'm involved with someone who has the same aspect, so naturally the composite has it. Everything is new, so who knows... however, I do think it has to do with what feels right and what doesn't. The Uranus influence might feel exciting to some or too erratic to others. I don't like boring, stagnant relationships. I do prefer a solid connection, but also need my own individuality honored and to have fun. Too much 'we, we, we' in relationship makes me gag. I detest that level of Bopsie Twin syndrome. But that's just me. I think it's important to take natal aspects into consideration. Sometimes the Uranus stuff is just unconventional relationship stuff... to where you both structure the relationship as you go along, on your own terms. What I will say about on/off stuff is that it's the harder planets hitting the softer ones... several of them. For instance, I had an on/off thing with someone whose Sun conjunct my Uranus, and his Saturn conjunct my Sun. He felt like the more erratic one as well, which is funny. Also, we had like NO Mercury aspects, except for an opposition of his Mars to my Mercury. If you think about it, if you look at a chart and you have all this crazy stop/start energy (Saturn/Uranus) without even the means to talk about it (Mercury), or compromise, then it's like going to feel really unstable, and you won't know where you stand at ALL. IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 08:42 PM
Hey MVM, Could you take a look at the charts I posted? I was studying them for a friend, who has been going through this on-off thing for a while and each time is horribly heartbroken. I just can't bear to see the pain and thought would see if their stars could tell more about their realtionship.The first one is a composite and the second a synastry. They have so many planets in their 7th houses and so many aspects I am surprised that they don't realize how much they have in common. Can you help please?IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares Knowflake Posts: 388 From: No Permanent Address Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2009 11:16 PM
Oh yeah, Venus-Uranus, too. His moon conjunct my Uranus. My Venus conjunct his Uranus. And it didn't help that we also had a two-way Venus-Neptune connection. Ugh! It was a two-way confusion.
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Crabplanet Knowflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 12:48 PM
His Uranus on my Sun, exact degree.his Uranus opp. my Moon. My Mars opp. his Pluto: One day it could be love, one day it could be indifference, from my side or his. Right now for exemple things are frozen. I changed my phone number, so there's no communication. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 06:06 PM
Rajin, I can't tell who've who in the synastry. Is there any way you can pot or link their individual charts please?IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 08:14 PM
Hey MVM, She is on the inside in blue in the synastry chart and he is in red on the outside. I am loading their individual natal charts here. Thank you for your invaluable help. the first chart is hers. This is his natal chart- Thanks again.IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 08:17 PM
Hey MVM, I am loading their synastry chart again. Figured out how to make the image appear on the screen finally:-). IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 09:36 PM
Rajin, they've both got pretty Uranian charts and energies on their own... check it out: She's got Uranus in her own 7th, as well as square her Moon, and he also has Moon square Uranus. The 'culprit' here is not the synastry or composite - it's their own darn charts lol. I highly doubt either of them relish a conventional relationship (as in white picket fence with 2.5 kids and dogs etc..) If either of them has a vision of perfection, I can assure you it's not going to go smoothly. So maybe the on/off works for them. Maybe that's just how they operate. People don't need to be together 27/7 glued to each other's side to be happy.... if they're not in an established relationship it could be because they've not really discussed what they'd be happiest with.... and maybe they don't know yet. I'll look more into it later But I have to say that the Uranian energies in both individual charts is not going to like some kind of regular, traditional relationship anyway. IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 09:53 PM
Hey MVM, I did notice the uranus squares and also read the conventional thing saying that moon square uranus is bad for long term relationships. The thing is I don't get why they seem to keep on coming back to each other. She loves him deeply and he starts off sincere and along the way gets indecisive, irregular wih calls and promises, he breaks her heart and it hurts even me to see her torn apart. she is a Scorpio and I have seen her cut off people bloodlessly, yet she seems to forgive a lot of his faults. Does he even care for her or is she some kind of backup person for him? They have so many planets falling in the other person's 7th house, I thought it would be an easy realtionship.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 10:19 PM
Rajin, I can't say what she is to him - that's sometimes not reflected by astrology alone. Astrology is just potential - what people do with it can be a completely different story (and keeping in mind that The Notebook is a story for entertainment...it's probably unwise to attempt it in real life ) Also, his Pluto sitting right on her 7th house cusp might actually give him the upper hand. That kind of means he will need to use his 'power' for good... it just says that he might be able to manipulate her needs ruthlessly if he's not careful, and if he's not merciful. Also, would say that while the 7th house is the house of partnership/marriage, it's not a guarantee of happiness...remember that the 7th is also the house of open enemies. I had my Sun and stellium in my ex-husband's 7th house, my Sun right on his vertex.... but I can assure it was not easy, and things ended badly between us. The marriage was NOT smooth. He also had some highly Uranian stuff in his chart but tried too hard to do things in a conventional way, and it made him and I miserable. I may have Moon/Uranus, but as much as it makes relationships 'hard', it's not really about on/off (I've only had ONE on/off relationship in my life, and I am in my 30's)... it's more about the enjoyment of intense emotion that comes on suddenly. Uranus is electric, and is about generating buzz and electricity. Someone with that aspects needs EXCITEMENT and intensity, period. Sometimes if they're not able to infuse it properly into a relationship or be aware/conscious of it, it will manifest in unsavory ways.... as in, the feeling of on/off relationships, ones which have a very strong 'honeymoon' period where things feel so intense and exciting, but then slip back into a very bad pattern. Or, it might become an unrequited love thing, to where the person gets 'hooked' on that love feeling, but yet can't seem to make it solid enough. Remember, the moon is a source of familiarity in the chart. If Uranus is touching that moon , it means that excitement (and not necessarily stability) is what comes first. Stability comes with time and with building a relationship in small steps. So I would say that she should dump him - he brings her misery. I don't care how good the house synastry looks. A person who consistently treats you like crap isn't someone you want in your life Her own self-esteem is more the issue here than the synastry...synastry isn't going to make up for the issues she has. She needs to focus on ways to make herself happy, and excited. She needs to BE the exciting person, so that she has something EXCITING to offer the other person (especially if they're Uranian too). That's my analysis...
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rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 10:24 PM
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rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 10:27 PM
Sorry, something went wrong and a blank msg got posted. Thanks MVM for the analysis. I had one more query. In vedic astrology they say that if u are " manglik" where ur mars is afflicted, u should marry a person with a "manglik " mars. It negates out the bad. So if two people have moon square uranus in their natal charts, would it be cancelled out in their synastry?IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1025 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 10:32 PM
I don't know much about Vedic, so I can't help you there, sorry ... But I don't know if sharing the two aspects 'cancels' it out. I would think it would bring a level of understanding (keeping in mind that's IF the two people are committed to working things out). I'm seeing someone who has the same Moon/Uranus opposition as I do, and we also have a Moon-Moon conjunction... I'll tell you sometime if it works or not But I would think that you'd just be able to 'get' the other person better... OR, alternatively, the theme of Uranus/Moon would probably be emphasized, and become a problem (if the two people weren't committed to one another, or to making it work, or being unconscious/unaware). Moon/Uranus is always aware though. Almost always on guard. And generally suffers nervousness. If they don't know how to deal with each other properly, they'll turn each other into nervous wrecks. IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 12, 2009 10:54 PM
Thanks MVM, This case I had noticed that their Mercuries were very well aligned and thought that communication would be easy between them. But he does not seem to communicate well with her and that is the crux of their on/off relationship. I think you are right when u said that he has pluto in her 7th which gives him power over her and he misuses it. I could not figure out the Mercury mystery as to why communication was the main problem with them. Mind you, it is a long distance relationship so communication is the only option. Thanks MVM, I am missing so many nuances in the charts.IP: Logged |