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Topic: are there any special aspects for on-again, off-again relationships?
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rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 12:20 PM
 
I was watching "The notebook" and it struck me that Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams look good together. But they have been on-off again and again. A lot of people seem to have that- Elizabeth Taylor-Richard Burton,Mandy Moore and her husband( they broke off a couple of times before marrying).
What are the aspects for these relationships? Is it Uranus/Pluto in a partner's 7th house?IP: Logged |
Deux*Antares
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posted August 08, 2009 12:24 PM
One I have experienced is Moon/Uranus conjunction in synastry. IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 01:22 PM
I read somewhere abt Uranus in the 7th house making an unpredictable tie between two people. What decides if these people will get together for life or break up?IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted August 08, 2009 02:28 PM
If it's any help, my brother and his GF have an on/off relationship with lots of ups and downs..Their Uranus's are conjunct within 1 degree(their birth dates are only 3 months apart).
Uranus trine Moon, Uranus square Jupiter, Uranus opposing Mercury.
Their conjunct Neptunes oppose her Moon
and her Saturn opposes his Sun. So I'm not sure how much help that is XD but I hope its some.. To me, the Uranus square Jupiter stands out the most, but maybe the Uranus / Moon aspect brings unpredictability to their emotions. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 08, 2009 02:43 PM
rajin,
is that uranus in h7 in synastry or in natal you're referring to?one factor is moon-uranus, esp square, in composite IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted August 08, 2009 03:07 PM
Progressed Venus in tense aspect (sq, conj, opp) to progressed Mars.If both sides of every aspect must be expressed if follows... that the Venus side would try to create a bond of sharing, mutuality and togetherness. While the Mars side would resist and assert its independence and set the limits, and boundaries in the relationship. With the flowing aspects a compromise is reached, and Venus and Mars can see eye to eye. In the tense aspects there is much polarization where after the on period (Venus), comes the off period (Mars). Venus: We are a couple...on Mars: I am an individual...off IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted August 08, 2009 03:36 PM
Composite Sun, Moon or Venus square Uranus or Uranus conjunct or opposite the ASC/MC.IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 03:37 PM
Lonake,
One partner's Uranus in h7 of the partner's chart in synastry.
Nine,
I thought that progressed venus conj progressed Mars was an indication of committment. The progression indicating that they had evolved and were compatible in the romantic sense. I must have misunderstood what I read.
So if the aspect is for the off again part of the relationship, when is the on again part due?IP: Logged |
Writesomething
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posted August 08, 2009 03:40 PM
I had a on/off situation with a guy...his Uranus sq. my ASC, and my Uranus sq. his ASC..(double whammy)..it was draining, emotional, etc...I also think Saturn has something to do with on/off relationships because of the intensity that comes along with it...its also draining, and too serious...some people need a break from that sort of saturn heaviness. IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 03:47 PM
Sorry Lonake, that sounded even more confusing. What I meant was,
One partner's natal Uranus in h7 of the other partner's chart in synastry
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comica23
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posted August 08, 2009 03:57 PM
In addition to the composite Uranus squares, I'd add Uranus square Jupiter or Saturn too. If a composite has this and then Saturn/Moon conjunction, it would make a couple stick together (this aspect is a supa glue) yet not able to commit to each other at the same time.In synastry, Saturn is usually a glue, maybe coz the Saturn person can't not be serious with the planet person. So either soft Saturn aspects coupled with many hard aspects between personal planets (creating hate/difficulties), or nice aspects between personal aspects coupled with hard Saturn aspects (so that the couple love each other but feels like can't stay together due to too much hardships). IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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posted August 08, 2009 04:06 PM
shrugssome astrologers think hard Saturn aspects are separation aspects. Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers,and Magi Astrologers seem to think that they are. also I would add Pluto and similar objects (fellow transneptunians, especially the plutinos)for intensity and having a hard time letting go of a relationship so the couple end up getting magnetized back together again. of course, the same aspects could also indicate the possibility of death,elimination in the complete cutting the partner of out of his/her life forever. Raymond ------------------
“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1 IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted August 08, 2009 04:14 PM
I was also going to add pluto for the intensity and drama, push-pull factor. The nodes also do this too, I think, from personal experience. IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 07:17 PM
this is the composite chart of 2 people that i was studying. They are on and off again and again and it makes me wonder why.
<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/richcal03/?action=view¤t=untitled-2-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/richcal03/untitled-2-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Any comments and observations would be great.IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 07:20 PM
sorry looks like I am not able to upload the link. Will try again. pl. bear with me this is my first time to upload anything.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/richcal03/untitled-2-1.jpg IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 07:24 PM
this is their synastry chart. http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/richcal03/natalsyn-2.gif IP: Logged |
origami_salami
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posted August 08, 2009 08:13 PM
A few different things can cause the on-again, off-again effect, but usually it boils down to having a strong mix of "stay together" aspects with Uranus or Mars action. Especially challenging aspects between Mars and Saturn or the Sun and Saturn create a sense of frustration and wanting to break away, yet inevitably reuniting because of the Saturn glue factor.Uranus conjunctions, squares, or oppositions to any personal planet can cause the "break away" urge. Mars squares and oppositions can do this to a lesser extent. Strong Saturn aspects can keep people coming back to each other. Conjunctions of planets to the angles or south node, overlays into each other's 4th house, or significant lunar aspects can create a seductive comfort that also brings people back together (because there was something comforting about the relationship they miss when single). So a combination of those different energies create instability but also a "can't live without you" feeling. I look at my parents' chart for an example; they broke up dozens of times before getting married. My mother's Uranus is conjunct my dad's sun and Mercury, square his Neptune and Mars, and sextile his Saturn. My dad's Uranus is conjunct her moon and sextile her Saturn. Her Saturn is also conjunct his Mars and Neptune, trine his moon, and square his Sun and Mercury. If the answer doesn't jump out in synastry, look for similar patterns as described above in the composite. ------------------
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downtomars
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posted August 08, 2009 08:46 PM
I also wonder about Sun conj Uranus synastry - I seem to have on and off relationships and even friendships with Scorpio Sun people and my Uranus is in Scorpio...IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 09:11 PM
Thanks origami,
Could you take a look at the synastry chart and offer an insight abt the relationship. They seem to have a lot of planets in each other's 7th house. With their mercuries so nicely positioned I thought they would communicate easily but it is a relationship where one partner tries to draw the other one out and meets a wall.IP: Logged |
Writesomething
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posted August 08, 2009 09:13 PM
Their composite has Moon opp. Uranus showing an unstable emotional connection but very exciting. There is ups and downs regarding how they feel about one another. Ancient ruler of their 7th is in Aquarius, strengthening the Uranus theme and causing their association to have major ups and downs.IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 09:18 PM
A composite chart represents the relationship itself, right? so if the relationship is off does it still hold true?
sorry abt the qs, it is probably a very basic one but am just learning things.
Appreciate all of you guys, you rock.IP: Logged |
Writesomething
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posted August 08, 2009 09:25 PM
yes, it shows how you interact with one another. Its like a "natal chart" of your relationship.IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 08, 2009 09:55 PM
Hi writesomething,
Thanks a lot for the insights. Could you pl. look at the synastry chart too? there are factors that make me think this relationship is meant to be. The overlap of planets in the 7th and 5th houses and the rulers of the 5th, 8th houses made me think that they would be together but they break apart and I tried looking at transits to understand but it is a lot of complication.
Do you think they have a chance at being together forever or will they break up forever?
Your comments will help me understand the planetary scheme better.
Thanks.IP: Logged |
rajin
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posted August 09, 2009 10:48 AM
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lechien
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posted August 09, 2009 01:49 PM
honestly i never thought of myself as the sort of person who has on-off relationships. i carve a deep line each time i move on, my poor exes are almost forgotten into the world of oblivion in my head! well, anyway i tend to lose any interests in them rather than as friends or acquaintances and never fancy them again in anyway, not even care to reminisce on the good romantic days.but in the past years i've been sexually active on and off with my close friend, which is totally new and surprising for me. in synastry we have:
His Saturn square my Uranus
His Uranus square my ASC
My Saturn widely conjunct his 8th house stellium, by Uranus, Moon and Pluto
My Uranus conjunct his Neptune
My Uranus conjunct his MC
My Pluto opposition his Jupiter in composite:
Uranus is in the 9th house widely conjunct MC (less than 6 degrees)
Saturn and Jupiter in opposition
Moon conjunct DSC is square Mars/Pluto conjunction IP: Logged |
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