posted August 10, 2009 01:39 AM         

The Significance of Asteroids

by Jacob Schwartz

Why not place your name, and the names of friends, family, favorite artisans, nations and cities in your horoscope? Yes, with over 14,000 asteroids named by scientists over the past two centuries, you'll find many names relevant to you! Yes, names like Roxanne and Richard, Gladys and Gregory, Sara and Scott, and names like Schwartz and Jacob! And they work. Their positions in the heavens connect with events on Earth with the names. Events like folks getting together or separating, parents connecting or separating from children, employers with employees, and people connecting with places and famous personalities as well.

Many years ago, while lecturing away from home, my host told me of her 24/7 affection for the music and personality of Ludwig van Beethoven. When I cast her chart, asteroid Beethoven was exactly on her Midheaven!

The thousands of asteroids signal a revolution that will bring astrologers into the new millennium, literally into the thousands points of light. Enlightenment indeed. The discoveries of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto symbolized the transition from the Renaissance into the technological eras, breaking down time/space barriers. Today's revolution, says Demetra George in her foreword to Jacob Schwartz's <i>Asteroid Name Encyclopedia</i> (Llewellyn, 1995), resonates to the vibrations of the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Information.

The consideration of asteroids, all 14,000+ with names so far, has led astrologers to develop a language that will address how this information explosion is impacting and changing our lives. Astrology wasn't always so complex. Our professional ancestors learned their craft with only seven visible planets. Saturn, the farthest planet then seen with the naked eye symbolized the limits of what we could perceive. But then William and Caroline Herschel discovered Uranus in 1781, and the ancient cosmology based upon seven sacred planets, seven chakras, seven musical notes, seven days of the week, etc. was expanded (except perhaps for Vedic astrologers).

From a metaphysical perspective a planet represents an aspect of consciousness. The naming of a new planet reflects a simultaneous activation of a consciousness in our collective minds. Uranus spoke to an awareness that each person had a right to individuality. Neptune was discovered when anesthetics, nursing, homeopathy and medical healing became systematic. Pluto correlated to the economic depression, a world war, and the discovery of nuclear energy promising to transform humanity in a process of alchemical evolution. Now asteroids come into our awareness. Suddenly horoscopes include familiar names.

The First Asteroid Discovered. New Year's Eve 1800 marked the first sighting of an asteroid, later called Ceres after the deity of agriculture. Soon after, more asteroids were found and named after other feminine deities: Pallas Athena, Juno, Vesta, Iris, Flora and Irene. By the end of the 19th century, more than 400 asteroids were computed and named. And now, over 14,000 asteroid orbits have been computed and named for deities but also places like California and Ohio, Toronto and Tucson, historical persons like Kleopatra and Copernicus, Bach and Bernstein, and things like Beer, Bus, Swissair and the United Nations, and people names like Diana and Donna, Anna and Arthur, James and Johanna.

The vast majority of asteroids orbit around the Sun between Mars and Jupiter, although a few come close to Venus and Earth. The impact of an asteroid 65 million years ago is credited with the extinction of dinosaurs upon the Earth. An asteroid about the size of a city block approached Earth in 1994 within half the distance of the Moon, closer than any other potentially destructive natural space object.

Asteroid ephemerides were not available outside the astronomical community until the late 20th century. Studying their implications was not possible for almost two centuries. The vast majority of astrologers did not know they existed, or those who knew about them often trivialized them as "cosmic gravel," not real planets, unimportant, insignificant. The ten regular planets were enough. And those who might have considered using four new points like the four largest asteroids Ceres, Juno, Pallas and Vesta, plus the comet Chiron were shocked with the realization that it didn't stop with those. There were thousands of them.

Let's look at a few examples from famous personalities, and historical events. We'll look at the castration of John Bobbitt, Michael Jackson and Neverland, Bill and Hillary Clinton as well as the present Israel wars!

Personal Relationships: The Bobbitts (PG-13)

The ouch heard around the world was the one uttered by John Bobbitt on 23 June 1993 when wife Lorena castrated him, responding to years of his abuse. Few castrations have generated as much publicity as Lorraine castrating John. Roman deity Saturn castrated his father Uranus, and Osiris castrated Seth later pieced together by Isis. But those were men castrating other men.

Do asteroids reflect the event? Indeed. Asteroids with relevant names include Lorraine, #1114, representing Lorena, and Johanna, #127, for John. Johanna was named in the 19th century when virtually all names for asteroids were femininized. Women were excluded from the professional astronomical community until 1928!

Planets representing affection (Venus) and sexual passion (Mars) are also easy to identify. But what heavenly body represents John Bobbitt's penis? Well, the asteroid with the colloquial name for penis, Pecker, (#1629) fits the bill. This asteroid was discovered in 1952 by astronomer L Boyer in Algiers, and named for the director of the astronomical observatory in Nice, France, Jean-Claude Pecker.

In Roman mythology, the god Saturn (Cronos in Greek mythology) castrated his father Uranus with a great sickle, and so began the strife and succession of the gods. Well, when Lorena Bobbitt castrated John with a sickle like garden shears, asteroid Pecker, appeared together in the sky with the planet named for the castrating god, Saturn. Asteroid Lorraine was a few degrees away from the asteroid whose glyph looks like a sickle, Ceres, the goddess of fertility and harvesting wheat with sickles.

The asteroid Lorraine was then conjunct the planet named for loving relations, Venus. The asteroid for John, charged with violent abuse, was conjunct the planet representing violence and war, Mars, and indeed John was charged with violent abuse. Saturn also represents shrinking and separations, and on the castration date Mars, the god of passion and penises was opposite Saturn, with asteroid Pecker in between both literally and figuratively. If one were above the solar system that day looking down upon it, and drew a line between Mars and Saturn, asteroid Pecker was exactly on the flight path between the two planets!

If ever the cosmos reflected life, this one is clear; even an astronomer might chuckle.

After all, astronomers have been naming asteroids for over two centuries, but they rarely connect the cosmos they name with events on earth. If the naming of the larger asteroids like Ceres, Juno, Pallas, Vesta, and Chiron have validity in interpreting horoscopes, then why not asteroids with "people and thing names" and even names for body parts.

Perhaps astronomers unconsciously tap into a physical vibration from asteroids when they name them. This translates into sounds which translate into names. In a strange way, astronomers who generally dismiss astrology as superstition, or a worthless pseudoscience may be unacknowledged channelers. After all, it was astronomers who named or "authorized" the names for Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, and the symbolism for those planets has held up.

Mundane Events: The Israeli Wars

Ever since Israel's birth, 14 May 1948 at 4 PM, Tel Aviv, organized warfare has been a constant part of its experience and its astrological signature. The asteroid Israel (named for a scientist) was at 21 Leo 50, between disciplined Saturn and intense Pluto at 16 and 12 Leo on the one side and warlike Mars on the other at 28 Leo. The dilemma between the American public and Washington was highlighted by an opposition then between Washingtonia tat 20 Virgo and asteroid America at 25 Pisces, with the asteroid Arabia in the middle forming a t-square at 17 Gemini. The story seems to be Arabian oil caught between government and populace! The asteroid United Nations (#6000) was at 11 Scorpio at Israel's birth, opposite the lunar north node of Israel at 13 Taurus, and square the powerful and transforming Pluto at 12 Leo.

The Israeli invasion of Egypt, 29 October 1956, cooperating with the UK and France, found the transiting asteroid Israel at 13 Capricorn sextile transiting Mars (15 Pisces) and in trine to the natal lunar north node at 13 Taurus, describer of destiny and purpose.

Most Americans know nothing about an Israeli submarine attacking an American naval communications ship, the USS Liberty, during daylite hours with the US flag flying prominently! American losses included 34 dead sailors and about 100 wounded. There was never an investigation of the alleged accident. Israel apologized, promised to investigate (a typical PR response meaning nothing will be actually investigated) and gave three million dollars to the surviving families, the money soon reimbursed to Israel by the US Congress. The date was 8 June 1967, during Israel's 6-day war. The asteroid Israel then was at 29 Aquarius applying to Washingtonia at 11 Pisces, opposite asteroid Arabia at 11 Virgo, having recently transited Israel's natal Mars at 28 Leo. The asteroids America, representing the American people as differentiated from the government represented by Washingtonia, was joined by the asteroid United Nations at 2 and 0 degrees Cancer, conjunct Venus in Israel's natal chart.

As of this writing in very late July 2006, the news from Lebanon and especially the news from the BBC without the pro-Israel biased reporting of most American media, described four United Nations workers killed by a seemingly intentional Israeli attack, according to the UN itself and BBC reporters on the ground. What do the asteroids say about this murder of four UN workers? At the attack, on 24 July 2006, the unity between Israel and Washington is described perfectly by a conjunction of asteroids Washingtonia and Israel, both retrograde, at 18 Sagittarius on Israel's natal righteous Jupiter-independent Uranus opposition at 28 Sagittarius for Jupiter opposite Uranus at 24 Gemini!

At the attack, the asteroid United Nations was at 26 Virgo in square to this same Israel natal Jupiter opposite Uranus. Who's correct, Israel's denial of intent or the observation of the UN? The asteroid Arabia during this attack was positioned at 11 Leo, in stressful square to the Israeli lunar north node.

Coincidence or Purpose? Since scientists have not found purpose in their laboratories, they tend to deny it exists. The important concept here is that the seeming arbitrary nature of the naming of asteroids is not as whimsical as it first appears. Asteroid names relate to events on earth with the names in a totally inexplicable way. Yes, it seems like a funny coincidence the first time you notice the connection. But when the coincidences become too frequent to dismiss as chance, more serious questions are raised about how holistic the universe is. What appears to be chaotic may actually express order! In the midst of chaos, order persists. And in the midst of order, chaos persists.

Asteroids point to an evolutionary breakthrough for humanity. If we accept the premise that the naming of new planetary bodies correlates with new centers of consciousness within us, then suddenly there are thousands of new centers of consciousness lighting up in the cosmos and in our minds. If we are on the precipice of a quantum leap of consciousness where a greater proportion of the brain will be utilized, then the awareness of asteroids stimulates those newly utilized brain cells. Is asteroid symbolism the next step in our evolution? Are the thousands of asteroid names in our language assisting us to cope with the vast changes in technology and the information age around us?

Currently names are chosen by astronomers meeting at Harvard's Smithsonian Astrophysics Institute. Naming asteroids is perhaps the only time an astronomer relates what's up there to what's down here on Earth. Asteroids thus can form a bridge between the astronomical and astrological communities!

Since the names work so well, could it be that the asteroid carries its own name? A name can be reduced to the vibration of specific wave patterns. Our astrological knowledge of aspects and harmonics, based on the vibrational patterns of numbers, confirms that certain aspects resonate with one another, and that planets in resonant aspects interact with each other. Perhaps the physical properties of the asteroid: its name, apparent shape, chemical composition, spectroscopes, and orbit carry a vibrational frequency, a sound, the discoverer unconsciously connects with a name.

Since so few astronomers understand astrology or the archetypical power of names, is their seeming arbitrary naming the factor in creating the vibration? Or is the vibration already there, waiting to be acknowledged, and so strong that the asteroid itself dictates its name to the astronomer via the circuitry of the unconscious mind that links one to the holographic mysteries of the universe? The sounds of names ascribed by these astronomers carry a cycle of meaning relating to events and experiences far beyond the meaning intended by the scientists who named them.

Are all the named asteroids useful in an individual horoscope? No, not all of them. If so, then one could rationalize anything. The ones useful are those asteroids with names relevant to the individual or event or time. Is the arbitrary, if not whimsical, way astronomers select names for the asteroids not part of the mix too? At the present time, we have no explanation for how they could

be, but then we have no good explanation how planets work either, or how aspirin removes pain, how bumblebees fly, or how flying hummingbirds remain still. Oh sure, there are theories for all of these phenomena. Even light, that's always been around, has at least six competing theories to describe it now. Sometimes simplicity is best.

Asteroid names are used that sound like the names of people and places represented on earth with names of similar spelling or sound. And asteroids typically don't move fast, so that errors in the birth time within a day are not likely to matter more than one degree of arc in measurement.

The further we stray from symbolism, and the more we veer to simplicity and directness, the less our critics can cite our astrological abilities being based upon rationalizations explaining everything and making everything correlate. Respect comes from specificity and making long shot predictions that materialize. When this writer saw asteroid Busch joining asteroid Washingtonia at the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections, the outcome was clear. But the prominence of a Gore-like asteroid Goretti then indicated popular support, and so the prediction by this writer of a Gore popular victory with a Bush electoral victory in the election, published months before in New Visions Magazine.

We could go on and on.
http://www.astrologynyc.org/ncgrnyc-articleh.html

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 10, 2009 01:52 AM         

Strangely, the names of asteroids relate to Earthly events and persons with the names! For openers, when Bill Clinton was born, the asteroids Monica, Paula, and Williams formed a stellium opposite asteroids Hillary and Gingerich! When George W Bush was elected president in 2000 and 2004, the asteroid Busch conjoined asteroid Washingtonia! When Germany, Italy and Japan formed the Axis nations before World War II, representative asteroids Germannia, Italia, and Nipponia formed mutual harmonious aspects! And these names were assigned decades earlier! Asteroid Signatures provides access to all these connection through its unique indexing feature, describing the keywords of the original citations.

And that's for openers! Do you like cats, dogs, owls, horses, elephants, or finches? Just type the word, and Asteroid Signatures instantly identifies asteroids specially mentioning each species! And their position in the cosmos at any time you select! Yes, all 12,000 are indexed thoroughly.

Astronomers exclusively provide the names -- they cannot be bought, and currently published in Harvard University's Minor Planet Circulars, to whom we are very grateful.
Do astronomers unknowingly tap into a universal condition that links the sound vibration of asteroid names with events on Earth?

We are also indebted to pioneers Zipporah Dobyns and Eleanor Bach for introducing their astrological significance in the 1970s.

Where are the asteroids relevant to you at significant dates in your life? The collective names in your life are as unique as your signature! That's why we call this program Asteroid Signatures! Type in your name, or any other name, and the program provides the positions of those asteroids at any time you select, the discovery dates and discoverers are listed, along with the keywords used in their original citation by the Minor Planet Center.

You'll discover an awesome level of personal connection between asteroid names important to you and important dates in your life when those names connected. The extensive index allows you to access persons, places, and things in the original citations, even when those names are not identified in the alphabetical listing alone. The asteroid Megryan for example is indexed under Ryan, Meg and actor. You can collect asteroid positions with your favorite artisans, historical or literary characters. There are many asteroids, for example, named for Lewis Carroll's literary characters.

The possibilities are only limited by your imagination. The opportunities to connect the cosmos with human experience was never more specific than with these asteroids, these points of light, these rock stars! The collective names in your life at any time are your signature, that's why we call the program "Asteroid Signatures".
http://www.astrosoftware.com/AsteroidSignatures.htm

I want to get that program too.

"You'll discover an awesome level of personal connection between asteroid names important to you and important dates in your life when those names connected."

That's the thing. It's about if an asteroid has importance and meaning in your life. There is no telling what asteroids are like that. Just because they have importance and meaning in your life doesn't necessarily mean that they will be important and have meaning in other's lives. Just because a certain asteroid is named after a place,person doesn't mean that it can't have a personal meaning in your life. I found certain asteroids are important and meaningful in my life and showed strong themes in my life and events happen during transits involving those asteroids. Some of asteroids could be seen as controversial because of certain concepts they might be connected to that might offend others that are connected to the names of these asteroids. There is relativity when it comes to asteroids. The asteroid in a person's chart might be their nationality,birthplace,or heritage but for others it might be dealing with certain views,events connected to concepts with some of them might be controversial. It's not your fault that you relate strongly to this asteroid in a different way compared to others. That's the same with planets in astrology. We relate to certain planetary aspects differently. Not everybody with hard Neptune aspects are drug addicts nor psychotics. Not everybody with hard Pluto aspects are obsessive powertrippers. It's all relative. Everything in Astrology is relative.

the view of looking at an astrology chart is relative

because there are so many ways to look at chart because there are more than one coordinate

for example

ecliptic longitude
ecliptic latitude
equatorial longitude aka Right Ascension
equatorial latitude aka Declination
horizon coordinates

there is geocentric
there is heliocentric
there is barycentric

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 10, 2009 02:29 AM         

I haven't read through all of it yet, but I found the Bobbitt story funneh

****PG-13!!***
I then chucked "Pecker" into B's chart just to see where it fell lol
Well it falls on his Venus/Mars conjunction
(0.34 Tau Venus, 0.34 Tau Mars, 0.30 Tau Pecker) haha .. but it does make sense, I won't go into why tho lol

so yeah... I can see how it all fits!! (Pecker is conjunct my Venus by 4 deg hahaha)

posted August 10, 2009 02:41 AM         

I'm not sure how to use the nodes calculater from http://www.true-node.com/pos/

I can't seem to figure out where to enter the name details of the asteroids!

Would I just put in name asteroids, or asteroids like Valentine, Eros, Psyche etc? Are all the nodes of the ateroids relevant?

Thanks,

posted August 10, 2009 04:24 AM         

"Would I just put in name asteroids, or asteroids like Valentine, Eros, Psyche etc? Are all the nodes of the ateroids relevant?"

I will help you out

first off, you have to add the asteroid to the system in order for you to calculate it

so you come here http://www.true-node.com/add/

and then add the asteroid by entering its name or number. it has an asteroid search facility and asteroid list. It makes finding asteroids easier.

then come here http://www.true-node.com/pos/

check the box that says Show Bodies Entered Here:

Below that is a box where you enter the bodies.

put in the name or number of the body. If it's multiple bodies, separate them with commas

for example:

Ceres,Pallas,Juno,Vesta
or
1,2,3,4

to make sure that you calculate the nodes

check the box that says N Node meaning North Node
check the box that says S Node meaning South Node

if you are calculating the heliocentric nodes, you have to go to where it says center, and change geocentric to heliocentric.

because heliocentric nodes are exactly opposite each other which is not the case for geocentric nodes (except for lunar nodes), you don't have to check both boxes. You can just check the N Node box, and you will get your North Node calculations, and you will automatically know your South Node positions by keeping in mind that they are exactly opposite the North Node positions.

if you want to look at Declination (Equatorial Latitude),
you check the box that says Decl

If you want to look at Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude)
you check the box that says RA

If you want to look at Ecliptic Latitude,
you check the box that says Lat

Astrological charts are primarily looked at through the Ecliptic Longitude coordinates,
and so the default is set for that,
so the box that says Long is already checked

All the nodes of the asteroids are relevant just like all asteroids are relevant. How relevant they are is relative though. Certain asteroids,asteroid nodes will be prominent in your chart, but they won't be prominent in many others' charts.

also...it's best to use no more than 1 degree orb for major aspects as well as semisextile,quincunx to the nodes of objects....the conjunction,opposition could use a 2 degree orb. .....especially with major planets and even dwarf planets like Eris,Pluto,Makemake,Haumea,and Ceres.

I hope that helps

if you have other questions,
please feel free to ask.

I like that you're interested in Asteroid Astrology and are open to even checking out asteroid nodes which I feel can be very insightful. It's just that many people don't understand the relevance of nodes of objects. A lot of it is because many people only know about the Moon has nodes. That's why the lunar nodes always referred to as nodes even though all other objects have nodes. When you look into the astronomy more, you realize the relevance of nodes of objects as well as even the perigree,apogee,perihelion,aphelion of objects.

for instance, what people refer to as black moon lilith is actually the lunar apogee. the opposite point is the lunar perigree.
so they have lunar symbolism,energy.

I feel that calling it "Lilith" takes away from the profound female archetype symbolism that the Moon is about.

we don't call the the apogee of a planet "Black so and so planet",and so I don't see why we call lunar apogee, "black moon"

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 10, 2009 05:05 AM         

The only problem I came across is that it calculated my Venus at 11 Aries18:47 , when it's actually 12 Taurus 51:56

What have I done wrong? I don't think the nodes will be right if my planets arent.

I left it set to Geocentric because when I calculate charts I use the Western geocentric (tropical) charts.

Thanks for your help

posted August 10, 2009 05:10 AM         

What have I done wrong? I don't think the nodes will be right if my planets arent."

I don't know.

may I try it and see what happens?

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 11, 2009 04:54 AM         

I will tell you the boxes I have ticked so far..

Type
Name
D/Rx
Long

---Are all ticked.
---The radio button next to Long is selected.

Show Bodies Entered Here:

Show Angles
Show Planets
Show Lunars [geo only]

---Are all ticked

Create Midpoint List
Create Aspect List

---Are ticked

Center - Geometric
Zodiac - Tropical
Harmonic - 1
Time Mode - Ephemeris
Format - DMS

--- I am not sure what the last three are, but left those as the default

posted August 11, 2009 04:58 AM         

all I could think of maybe you accidentally typed the wrong date.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 11, 2009 10:22 AM         

What is the relevance of the NN and SN of the asteroids? What sort of extra meaning do they give?

Logically there would be more connections, simply by including SN and NN of all the planets/asteroids. I have listed the name SN and NN connections below on each of our charts within a 2 degree orb.

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B's name NN (on my chart)

conjunct B's Saturn (0)
conjunct B's Psyche (2)
sextile B's Pluto (1)
sextile B's Venus SN (2)
sextile B's Mars SN (2)
sextile B's Valentine NN (1)
sextile B's Uranus NN (2)
trine B's Valentine SN (2)
trine my name NN (on his chart) (2)
trine B's Uranus SN (1)
quincunx B's Vertex (2)
opposition B's Neptune SN (1)
semisextile B's Eros SN (1)

square my Venus (0)
square my Saturn (0)
trine my Uranus (0)
trine my Venus SN (1)
sextile my Psyche (2)
sextile my Uranus NN (0)
quincunx my Jupiter (0)
conjunct my Psyche NN (0)

---

B's name SN (on my chart)

sextile B's Osculating Lunar Apogee (0) ??
sextile B's Saturn SN (1)
trine B's location and location NN (1 and 2)
semisextile B's Moon (2)

sextile my Mercury SN (1)
sextile my Saturn SN (1)
semisextile my Mercury (2)
quincunx my Chiron NN (0)

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My name NN (on my chart)

semisextile B's Chiron (1)
trine B's Vesta (1)
square B's Mercury SN (0)
square B's Jupiter NN (1)
sextile B's Mean Lunar Apogee (1) ??
quincunx B's Psyche (2)

trine my Sun/Moon midpoint (0)
sextile my True Node (1)

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My name SN (on my chart)

trine B's Venus (1)
trine B's Mars (1)
trine B's Venus/Mars midpoint (1)
trine B's Chiron SN (1)
sextile my name on B's chart (0)
square B's Mars NN (1)
conjunct B's IC (0)
conjunct my name SN on B's chart (0)
opposition B's name SN on B's chart (2)

trine my Eros (0)
trine my Neptune (0)
trine my Chiron SN (1)
sextile my Pluto (1)
sextile my Vertex (0)
sextile my Juno (1)
sextile my Jupiter SN (1)
square my Chiron (1)
square my Venus NN (1)
semisextile my location (1)
conjunct my Valentine (1) (lol)

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My name NN (on B's chart)

opposition B's Pluto
trine B's Valentine SN (0)
trine B's Neptune NN (1)
sextile B's Mercury NN (1)
sextile B's name on B's chart (1)
semisextile B's location SN (1)
semisextile B's Eros NN (1)
square B's Eros (2)
square B's Eros SN (1)
quincunx B's Uranus (2)

conjunct my Osculating Lunar Apogee (1)
conjucnt my Venus SN (1)
semisextile my Venus (1)
semisextile my location (2)
trine B's name NN on my chart (2)
trine my Uranus (2)
trine my Neptune NN (2)
trine my Psyche NN (2)
sextile my Uranus NN (2)
square my Jupiter (2)
quincunx my Saturn (2)

---

My name SN (on B's chart)

is EXACTLY the same for My name SN on my chart (above) as these are conjunct (1 degree Virgo)

Do you find it harder working with nodes due to the fact there are so many connections?

posted August 11, 2009 12:34 PM         

South Node is like supposed to be about what we have already learned in the present life, what comes natural to us because of that, some say that it's a point of release

Roy MacKinnon talks about it here
http://www.bristolschoolofastrology.com/asteroid_nodes.59.html

IN NATAL CHARTS

I recommend smaller orbs with minor planet nodes (asteroids,centaurs,transneptunians) -
1 degree ...conjunction,opposition could use an orb of 1 1/2 degree....especially if you could relate to it.....there might be significant exceptions with the larger asteroids like Ceres which is a dwarf planet, larger transneptunians like Eris,Pluto,Makemake,and Haumea which are all classed as dwarf planets.

in a natal chart, the orb of planetary nodes is no more than 2 degree orb

the geocentric nodes of personal planets,asteroids relate to personal karma
the geocentric nodes of the social planets (Jupiter,Saturn),the outerplanets (Neptune,Pluto),the centaurs,and transneptunians lean more towards the generational to the collective

the heliocentric nodes of all objects relate to collective karma

A personal planet (especially Sun,Moon), or angle in conjunction to a heliocentric node indicates a strong connection to that collective energy. That's why heliocentric node aspects are said to be more significant than aspects to the object itself.

for example, I have Sun conjunct heliocentric South Eris Node with 10 minutes of arc, and so I am strongly connected to collective Eris energy. Therefore, it's more significant than having Sun conjunct Eris.

IN SYNASTRY CHARTS

In synastry, I recommend smaller orbs with minor planet nodes (asteroids only..centaurs and transneptunians move slowly,and so they are very generational to the point of being collective) - 1/2 degree....conjunction,opposition could use a 1 degree orb....especially if you can relate to it
This is only for geocentric nodes because they move much faster. Heliocentric nodes move up to 1 degree per century, and so they move very slowly, much slower than outer planets, move just as slowly as fixed stars. Therefore they relate more to the collective.

in synastry, the orb of planetary nodes is no more than 1 degree

Nodes of objects aren't used with midpoints

also soft aspects aren't used with midpoints

osculating lunar apogee is aka true black moon Lilith
I have Sun conjunct osculating lunar apogee with 21 minutes of arc

mean lunar apogee is aka mean black moon lilith

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.