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Lucia23
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posted November 29, 2010 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do think it's not so much insecurity, it's also the flip side, pride...it's not like Leo-influenced people have a low opinion of themselves, they just care a whole lot about what other people think...positive/negative.

A teenage Leo Sun or Moon will be thinking, "What do the others think of me? Do they like me? Do they think I'm attractive?" Whether the answer is positive or negative, it's like Leo (before we mature) is performing for others, instead of just experiencing life unselfconsciously. This doesn't automatically equal insecurity--you can be thinking, "They love me! They thinkk I'm beautiful!"...it's just all about the caring what people think either way.

It's interesting to compare Leo to its opposite sign, Aqua.

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posted November 30, 2010 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fellow leo moon (libra venus) here!

Hmmm, I am better with small group of friends, although I like a crowd that I can mix with it at a big party.

Friendship wise....if you lose my respect, it'll take a long time to win it back. I am a little hard in that respect. But if I love you, I love you forever and am very loyal. I choose my friends carefully.

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posted November 30, 2010 12:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have the Leo Moon (of course, everything is in leo)
I have no bad aspects to my moon.. Unless you want to consider moon conjunct Sun and Mercury..

Im introverted.. It's hard for me to be around alot of people, especially if I dont know them well... But at the same time Im not shy.. If I want to do something I will.. I just prefer smaller crowds of people I know... I dont make new friends easily.. Its very hard for me to open up to people.. I dont like small talk.. I find it annoying..


I'm alot like you apart from the don't make friends easily bit, as i do make them easily. What is the rest of your Natal chart Lioness? You say you have a lot of Leo. How much is alot?
Water riser by any chance?

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Yeah I guess you can say Im insecure in a way, but at the same time, I have the pride, and if some one doesnt like me than its their loss..
I'm VERY FIXED... It's nearly impossible to get me to change my mind..

I think leo's in general are very insecure, which is part of the reason why we need so much attention, we need to be felt wanted, and needed... Hurting the leo pride will surely send a leo forever packing... Its very hard on the self esteem....

Hmmm, I am better with small group of friends, although I like a crowd that I can mix with it at a big party.

Friendship wise....if you lose my respect, it'll take a long time to win it back. I am a little hard in that respect. But if I love you, I love you forever and am very loyal. I choose my friends carefully.


Agree with that, ESPECIALLY the last paragraph.

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posted November 30, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun,Moon,Mercury and Mars are in Leo
Venus Cancer
Asc= Pisces
Uranus/Pluto Libra
Neptune/Jupiter Sag..

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posted November 30, 2010 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that sounds like a nice chart. Very much how i predicted. I'm all Fire and Water myself. What degree is your Pisces ascendent? Any chance of posting your natal up, and i'll post mine.

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posted November 30, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'leo's in general are very insecure, which is part of the reason why we need so much attention'

I believe that Leo suns are usually very talented in some area and have so much to give- and that's why they need/get a lot of attention

Leo moons.. I remember a similar thread ?? They sometimes do silly stuff, pride is important for everyone but with them it's just too obvious

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posted November 30, 2010 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Predominantlyfire:
Wow that sounds like a nice chart. Very much how i predicted. I'm all Fire and Water myself. What degree is your Pisces ascendent? Any chance of posting your natal up, and i'll post mine.


For some reason I cant get into Astro right now.. humm..

If you want start a new thread, and post your chart, and as soon as I can get into astro I will post mine up in your thread

My asc is at 13

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Ok. Wow my Ascendent is 13 Cancer!!! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206419.html
Edit: That's strange it's 15 on there. I always thought it was 13... It's even nearer Saturn now!

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posted November 30, 2010 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I'd share my experience with some Leo moons that have touched my life.

Grandma: Everyone praises my Grandma for her pies she makes from scratch. She use to win the apple pie contests a long time ago at the state fairs. She's 88 now. And doing good. Once in a while she gets annoyed if she isn't getting enough attention. Like if I brought a friend over to her house when I was little, and we went straight up stairs to like play with dolls or whatever. She would complain to my mom. And recently when Grandma came over, me and mom where baby sitting an infant. And my Grandma got annoyed cause the baby was crying and whining so we couldn't really focus to much on Grandma. She also will complain to me if one of her new great grand kids doesn't pay attention to her.
(her sun is in Libra, Mercury in Libra, & Mars in Capricorn)

My Cousin: She is not what she seems, extremely quiet to most. She also did seem like she got really quiet when she went from living in the county to having to move to the ghetto.
Her quietness got so bad that when she was 12 my mom would say hi to her and she couldn't even say hi back! She would just stare at my mom like a deer in the headlights. I remember that when she would visit, she would be quiet with me at first. But I would just keep talking to her. And she'd warm up.
She can come across as stuck up to people at first(her best friend thought this at first until she got to know her), since she wont really talk to someone she doesn't know. haha Its like the other person's job to make her warm up. To people that don't know her it doesn't seem like she has people skills, she goes to church EVERY Sunday, and was an honor student in high school. So for some, actually many...its hard to believe that she usually had a boyfriend. (she use to be very secretive about her boyfriend/s), and that she loves to party, and that she ended up getting knocked up.
She's growing up though, she will talk to people now if someone asks her a question. Because that is just apart of life, and I think she realizes that now.
(her sun is in Taurus, Mercury Taurus, Mars Pisces) (I'm 3 weeks older than her)

An ex boyfriend: Basket case! This guy has a bad reputation. I was in a relationship with him for a whole month. This guy hasn't had an easy childhood, and sounds like his parents weren’t always in the picture. He is pretty unstable, and a compulsive lying sack of s**t. Yeah he would make up s**t to try to make him self look cool. (he use to tell me some disturbing sh**. Some suff he said I would think why would he think that would impress me!? wtf?)
I dumped him pretty bad, must of hurt is ego...because people keep telling me made up sh** he would make up. Supposedly I had s** with him. That never happened. I was still a v****n at the time. And that he would bring girls over to my house and cheat on me. He was never alone at my house! Apparently to him that will make him sound cool. Oh the most recent rumor I cheated on my other ex with him! BAhahahaa!!! Actually its the other way around and he knows it. (it ALMOST doesn't count though cause it was the night before I dumped him)
(his Sun is in Cancer...I dated him back in 09 in August, don't remember the exact day he was born in July...Didn't need to see his whole birth chart to realize that I can't stand him)

None of these 3 lunar Leo's seem like they are the same on the inside, or just in general.

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posted December 01, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WateryAir33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No! I keep reading this about Leo moons and I don't know how this could be. Leo and insecure kind of sounds like an oxymoron to me.

One of my co-workers is a Leo mooner (with Capricorn sun) and that is one of the most outgoing, confident, charming, and funniest people I know! She's a really sweet girl. She doesn't have an once of insecurity (from what I can see) about her.
But then again, I don't know too many Leo mooners so I don't want to speak too soon...

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posted February 02, 2016 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread was so insightful being a moon in leo myself! Loved it!

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posted February 02, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to be standoffish around people, I dont know. I've just had so many people (moon square pluto) that made fun of me in my childhood behind my back & twisted my words around. I just know how people can be.. That should be a reason why im this way, but im working on it..

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posted February 03, 2016 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Leo Moon doesn't think it's insecure but is pleased that you are inquiring...

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posted February 03, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wondering     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say yes, they are insecure. I know a few. I think they could be very sensitive when it comes to their ego.

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posted February 03, 2016 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've known, mmmm, 7-8 just off the top of my head. 6 year long relationship with one.

I find that they are either egotistical to the point of irritating me or they are insecure.
I haven't seen one land nicely in the middle. Not yet.

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posted February 03, 2016 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
I've known, mmmm, 7-8 just off the top of my head. 6 year long relationship with one.

I find that they are either egotistical to the point of irritating me or they are insecure.
I haven't seen one land nicely in the middle. Not yet.


haha, really! I see with cancer moon, but not leo moon..

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posted February 04, 2016 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know one leo moon, and his neediness for attention puts me on the fence about staying or running away. That's just too much sunshine and showing off for this leo sun. Might be because my sun and his moon are 5 degrees apart.

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posted February 04, 2016 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only Leo Moon I know who acts this way has his Sun in Leo as well and Merc/Mars are tightly conjunct his Moon.

He reacts like a child when he gets upset and if he isn't the center of attention in a group of friends and family he will say or do something to make it so he is. It's quite obnoxious. And is probably why he almost exclusively hangs out with his family anymore. They're the only ones who can't avoid him forever lol
But seriously It sucks because I used to really enjoy hanging out with him and his now wife, but his attitude and actions slowly drove me away.

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posted February 04, 2016 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
I know one leo moon, and his neediness for attention puts me on the fence about staying or running away. That's just too much sunshine and showing off for this leo sun. Might be because my sun and his moon are 5 degrees apart.

I once had Leo Sun conjunct (< 1°) my Moon in a relationship. There was a lot to like about it. Only, I felt like I didn't get my "turn" to be Leo Moon.

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posted February 04, 2016 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insecure? Not usually, but I can be.

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posted February 04, 2016 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll give you an example of an insecure Leo moon. (of course not that all of them are)
You can see what you think.
There's a couple, let's say "Mike" and "Amanda". There's other behaviors besides the example that I'm going to give, such as him following her around like a puppy dog.
(Mike a Gemini/Leo)
So one night we're at a big celebration party. I don't drink very often, but we all were drinking a lot this night. Well, I was and I think "Amanda" was. I was pretty drunk.
I got a plate with some potato chips and sat down next to Mike and Amanda. Amanda wanted some chips also so I shared them with her. When the chips were gone I told her that I'd go get us some more which repeated a few times. HAHA We kind of laughed and joked, but no more or less than I did with Mike or anyone else.
So later we were all outside and I don't remember why but I laid in the grass to look at the stars or something. The grass was wet with dew. So Amanda says, "oh no you need to get off that wet grass. You're going to be all wet and cold." So she grabs my hand to help me up. I hear Mike, standing right next to us (along with another friend or two) starts speaking loudly, asking Amanda, "Do you want to go home with him? I'll go home and you can go home with him. Is that what you want?"
I kept my mouth shut. She was remarkably calm (Taurus with Virgo moon) and just told him, "No. Of course not. I'm just helping him up so that he doesn't get wet and cold."

The one I was with, also two others that I knew very well, a Libra/Leo and a Gem/Leo by all appearances seemed like lovely, happy, outgoing people. They would help people out, etc. They helped me out. Behind closed doors they talked crap about everybody! (I witnessed this first hand on MULTIPLE occasions over months). They even talked crap about family. The one I had a relationship with for 6 years was very similar. She didn't talk crap about her own family, but most others. In private. She was sweet as pie to their face. Same with these two. None of them seemed to be insecure like "Mike" was.
Another, a Sag/Leo. Wow. They were insecure but it came out differently. They were very loud, very animated, and very strongly opinionated. Sometimes they mistook my help as some attempt to undermine them and make them look stupid to others. They'd get so mad. They were CONSTANTLY doing things to make themselves the center. The loudest in the room, the angriest, the most opinionated, the most animated, etc. They'd catch anyone within spitting distance to start giving unwanted opinions on things.

I really like them. Like Mike. We were really good friends and quite close. I had that long relationship with one. I was very close to those other two.
We all had a lot of fun and laughter. We even shared similar opinions on a lot of things. (manner of expressing them is another thing) But man, when the laughter stops, there's just nothing left for me.

This may not be how Leo moons are or how others view them. My Saturn sits in Leo and I'm sure these moons were in the vicinity of my Saturn. So you could say, "Oh, so this is Saturn's view."

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posted February 04, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 04, 2016 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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no, most leo mooners i know have been the opposite actually.

i really don't think the sign of your planet is set in stone. i really think your chart overrall influences how these traits of signs in planets come out.

e.g. i know atleast 2 or 3 leo risers including my self, who arn't that sociable or lively. they are however if you warm up to them as a friend.

i mean, i have venus in libra, now i can be really sociable, but i can also be the COMPLETE opposite.

this is down to the aspects and the chart overrall. so i don't think you can generalize a planet by sign, only the aspects to it. some of the basic traits you can of course, but in terms of how these planets express there traits, i don't think it can be generalized.

p.s., hows things with mr. leo sun?



I completely agree...my Ex was a Leo moon...he was definitely Confident! LOL too much so sometimes...

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posted February 05, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am fairly sure most Leo moons feel you should say that they need reassurance.
Some Leo moons it could be said have the life task of learning to not give a phuq what you think about what they are doing.
house placement and aspects matter much.

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posted February 06, 2016 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always thought my Leo moon was the one aspect of my chart that gave me confidence...Saturn square sun and saturn square venus gives me insecurity but the playfulness of my moon lifts me up when it comes to self expression. Anytime I have major transits to my moon, I do things that would normally make me scared. So I guess I feel like it's the reverse. Leo mooners are more proud than insecure.

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