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MsCandeh
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posted August 12, 2009 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious if there is anything to progressions in synastry?

E.g. Progressed venus conjunct the partner's natal sun?

What sort of meaning does this impart regarding synastry, or is it really not relevant? (seeing as the natal would also be progressed too, therefore their sun would be in a different position)..

thanks for any insights

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posted August 12, 2009 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Redstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They get used just as normal inter-chart aspects, and can point to possible timing of events, essentially opening a window of opportunity for you by creating aspects that are conductive to the development of a relationship.

The only caution with them is the potential for very otherwise unsuitable individuals to find themselves suddenly attracted to one another, and then WHAM, when the progression is over (the progressed planet moves out of orb of aspect with the natal planet of one or the other)you no longer feel that warm fuzzy feeling, and wonder what the hell happened to you.

This method of comparison is often used to illustrate how very unlikely individuals got together, had passionate/intense affairs which ended just as suddenly.

There are a number of authors who have written books on this kind of thing, such as "When Stars Collide: Why we love, who we love and when we love them" by Paul Westran.

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posted August 12, 2009 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
explanation, Redstar.

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posted August 12, 2009 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was kinda wondering the same thing and somebody gave a good answer to this question. You can check out my post if you like: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/201850.html

The reason I was wondering the same thing, is because my progressed chart is exactly progressed to the same day as my current love interest, so my progressed and his natal almost look identical, only the ASC. and Moon is different, but even my progressed moon was conjunct his natal Moon, when I first met him.

And his progressed Venus is conjunct my Mercury and Sun, so I think there is definitely a worthy connection between progressed and natal synastry.

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posted August 12, 2009 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I met my boyfriend his progressed sun was exactly conjunct my natal sun, and my progressed moon was exactly conjunct his natal moon. I think this is very significant. I hope he's not someone unsuitable I've been attracted to. I don't think so. He is a very nice person.

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posted August 12, 2009 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all your replies

It's interesting because I am 25 this year, B, although born in a different year, has a birthday 26 days after mine. My progressed sun and his sun were an applying conjunct when we met, though now they are separating, they started to separate in May (when my birthday is). Makes me wonder... that's when things started getting a bit different for us too.

Anyway, I just quickly checked up on our charts and yep, there were some hard Moon square aspects, but as of the end of the month the only hard Moon aspect will be my progressed moon square his Sun (separating). Which is funny because in our natal synastry my Sun is square his Moon.

I'm going to use this to see how it links to other things that have happened as well - so intriguing! It shows there's just so much more to astrology than natal charts/synastry... I was only aware of that before I started reading up on this forum. Astrology is so complex and so many things can affect your interactions with people and events beyond the scope of the natals.

Vertiver thanks for the thread link.. I missed that one :O .. but I am not sure what solar arcs or secondary progressions are yet.. so will have to start researching them too But the info Nine wrote about progressed suns conjunct natal suns was interesting!

Do you or anyone else know what kind of orb we are likely to use when comparing progressed to natal?

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posted August 13, 2009 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Secondary progressions are the same as a progressed chart, its just the technical name for it. And I usually use a five degree orb for conjunctions with progressed charts.

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Solar Arc
The distance the Sun travels along the ecliptic within a specified period of time. In many methods of direction and progression, the movement of the Medium Coeli is based on the movement of the Sun, which means: the distance between the Sun and the Medium Coeli always remains the same. The movement of all the other house cusps is then based on the movement of the Medium Coeli.
There is a mean and true solar arc. The former is, as the name suggests, based on average values and is based on the so-called Naibod Key which is the Sun's average diurnal movement of 59 minutes and 8.33 seconds of arc (see also: Naibodic Arc). Interpolation can be used to calculate the true solar arc , which is the actual distance travelled by the Sun on a particular day. The resulting value is only slightly different from the average solar arc.

http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Solar_Arc

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posted August 14, 2009 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool thanks for that info vertiver

So, when something significant happened between us... apart from my progressed moon being squared his sun, jupiter, chiron etc etc etc... My solar arc mercury cj B's natal mercury, and these also cj my sun, all within about a degree.

On your thread vertiver, Glaucus mentioned only having a 1 degree orb, the first half meaning 6 months till exactness, the second half meaning 6 months after exactness.

My Solar Arc Mercury: 22.22'46 Tau
B's natal Mercury: 23.51'01 Tau
My natal Sun: 22.05'41 Tau

I'm not sure what Glaucus means by 6 months until exactness (my Sun and SA Merc conjunction) .. so 6 months after the date, will they be conjunct? Or is that from the time that I entered the date? And - though I just realised it's technically 1.5 degrees - but when they are less than 0.5 degree away from each other will that mean that something happened 6 months previously?

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posted April 03, 2019 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't understand why people say relationships end when the progression aspects separate. Someone told me that the relationship I have with someone would end. And that someone else would take their place in regards to intimacy. Yet I am still friends with this person I don't know how anyone could know this.

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posted April 03, 2019 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This topic belongs in Interpersonal Astrology. Moving it there.

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