posted August 16, 2009 03:26 PM         

I'm trying to curb my wild attraction to them and go for a normal, sane type but i just get so bored...

posted August 16, 2009 03:37 PM         

but also the centaurs like Chiron with their highly eccentric orbits......those are nonconformists

it could also be the transneptunians like Pluto with their highly inclined orbits...they tend to orbit well off the ecliptic unlike the planets. Pluto is a plutino,and has a highly eccentric orb. They tend to be on the otherworldly side because they orbit beyond Neptune which is the planet of dissolving the boundaries

I am attracted to unusual women myself with Moon,Venus in aspects to transneptunians

I have no Uranus aspects to my Moon nor Venus.

if I remember right, your Ixion-Quaoar is conjunct your Descendant.

Ixion is a plutino, and it was named after the father of the centaurs. It's a mythological badboy.....a king that was the first murder in greek mythology,and who was punished by zeus for his lust for hera. Ixion mated with a fake hera that zeus made to test ixion. That resulted in the centaurs which are wild,lusty creatures just like their father.

Quaoar is a transneptunian that is cubewano which means classical kuiper belt object,orbits beyond Pluto, and it is named after Native American Tongva tribe creation god.

I have Moon trine Sun-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction myself.

Your Sun conjunct Pluto also fits the bill. With a transneptunian conjunct the Sun, you can attract nonconformist type of men.

I think that you would be better off with spiritually oriented partners though. That's a positive of transneptunian energy.

I am interested in only spiritually oriented women. I want the type of gal that I would meet at my interfaith unity church,intuitive healing arts fair,or some type of spiritual seminar. I have been involved with those wild,badgirl types when I was in the navy......one of them was a daughter of the owner of RH Philips winery, and she was a gal that drank and did drugs. I got rejected by her for an exbf in prison.

transneptunians are evolutionary intensified objects.

so it seems that you are going through evolutionary intensified relationships with men just like I have evolutionary intensified relationships with women.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 16, 2009 03:52 PM         

You're a lifetime story waiting to happen.

posted August 16, 2009 04:07 PM         

I agree to go to drinks or dinner with them and end up yawning after half an hour! lol

posted August 16, 2009 04:08 PM         

Nessus is THE BADBOY of the centaurs too.
that could be in synchronicity with you attracting bad boys.

I have Venus quincunx Nessus myself.

If I remember right, Lara's Sun is conjunct the heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus. That's like having Sun conjunct Eris, but the heliocentric Eris Node is very slow moving like all heliocentric object nodes (up to 1 degree per century),and so it has to do with the collective. Therefore,it's more significant than having Sun conjunct Eris. I have Sun conjunct the heliocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio myself.

Her Sun conjunct heliocentric North Eris Node
That could indicate her attraction to nonconformist,divergent men which could be controversial,troublemaking,and intolerant of diversity,not believing in equality.

but if she wants to and chooses to do it, she can attract men that are spiritually oriented,tolerant of diversity,equality-oriented,and even and advocate who fights for a positive cause like equal rights. Those are positives of Eris.

To me, Eris is like showing people who think their sh-t doesn't stink really does stink. I felt that she did that when she threw her golden apple at the wedding and the goddesses went after it,claiming it to be theirs, exposing their petty vanities. Eris was seen as the troublemaker of the gods, but the thing was that gods were also troublemakers and did bad things. Heck..she didn't cause the Trojan War either. Aphrodite promised the married Helen to Paris for the golden apple. After all,she didn't care about her marriage vows. She was having sex with other men (both immortal and mortal) while married to Hephaestus. I think Eris probably had issues with Aphrodite. She was supposed to be the twin sister of Ares,but she never got appointed as one of the 12 major deities of Olympus even though she's the daughter of both Zeus and Hera. She was said to be an ugly goddess. On the contrast, Aphrodite has no parentage in connected to Zeus or Hera,but she was made a major deity of Olympus. All because of her astounding beauty. is it a coincidence that Eris' perihelion is in Libra and Eris' North Node is in Taurus?

Eris can be about stirring up stuff and raise hell,but it can be to shake up an unfair status quo. Civil Rights advocates are perfect example. Martin Luther King Jr. went to jail many times for disobeying the Jim Crow laws. He was an advocate of civil disobedience to get those racist,segregation laws abolished. He had a stationary direct Chiron conjunct heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus. His wife,Correta had Sun conjunct heliocentric North Eris Node in Taurus, and she was also a civil rights leader.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 16, 2009 05:56 PM         

The Nessus/Ixion info is definitely worth researching more

Nessus is sextile my NN but also conjuncts my sun/moon mp (2), venus/pluto mp(1), venus/saturn mp(5), moon/chiron mp (3) and opposes my mercury/saturn mp (2)

posted August 16, 2009 06:01 PM         

NESSUS
conjunct IC
trine AC

posted August 16, 2009 06:12 PM         

Aside from that, I'm also drawn to the unusual, though not really the "bad guys." 'Course given my background, a guy off GQ would be far more unusual for me than some tattooed biker. But overall, I don't really have control over who I find myself attracted to (and I haven't noticed that much of a pattern, it seems almost random to me, like rolling dice to see how I react--really frustrating to me sometimes).

In your case, it could be you're drawn to these guys because they speak to something repressed within you. Maybe they represent personal power, individuality, or the like, which you may subconsciously feel repressed in yourself, and being drawn to these guys is a manifestation of that (I think Jung described this in detail, IIRC). Not that you necessarily wanna pull a "Thelma & Louise," but maybe you'd like to trash the expectations foisted on you and become who you really are rather than the person your family & community expect you to be.

Btw, I was born in Houston in October, too (Oct 21, 1982, very close to 3 AM, IIRC)

posted August 16, 2009 06:16 PM         

Bad boys?? Been there, done that... got old REALLY quickly... It's not necessarily that I go for bad boys with sleeved out tats or anything like that, It's just that I purposefully look for people that are a little left of center... maybe because I feel that they are the only ones that will be able to handle MY eccentricity?

I have:

Ixion opposite Sun
Quaoar opposite Sun
Ixion exact conjunct Quaoar
Ixion biquintile Venus exact
Ixion trine Mars
Ixion sextile Saturn
Ixion conjunct BML
Quaoar trine Mars
Quaoar biquintile Venus
Quaoar sextile Saturn
Quaoar conjunct BML
Nessus trine Sun exact
Eris conjunct Venus exact
Eris quincunx Pluto
Eris square Neptune
Eris square Chiron
Chiron trine Moon
Chiron conjunct Jupiter
Chiron square Venus
Chiron opposite Uranus
Chiron opposite Neptune exact
Chiron trine Pluto

I'm not quite sure if those are all relevant or not, but which aspects would account for the craving for originality in a partner? What would account for the eccentricity in myself?

posted August 16, 2009 06:19 PM         

I'm just like you - almost exclusively attracted to unusual people: bad boys, artists, musicians..., people who strive for independence and who are capable to remain free. Uranus is very prominent in my chart - conjuncting ASC ( exactly ), squaring Venus, opposing Moon. Also in trine with Mars ( my chart ruler ) - Jupiter conjunction.

posted August 16, 2009 06:21 PM         

Sun trine Nessus,Sun oppose BML-Ixion-Quaoar conjunction and Mars trine BML-Ixion Quaoar conjunction could indicate the attraction to nonconformist men.

all the centaur,transneptunian aspects that you listed....especially involving your personal planets,angles can indicate the eccentricity in you

true black moon lilith is also nonconformist type of energy but is also a female,feminist type of energy. I have Sun conjunct true BML which trines my Moon.

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 16, 2009 06:26 PM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 16, 2009 06:30 PM         

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 16, 2009 06:31 PM         

Mainly, I'm curious if it's into "unusual" you like, or "dangerous."

Also, it seems to me that the romance genre is filled with "bad boys" (maybe a rich bad boy, but bikers to pirates are also known) being reformed by women. 'Course erotica seems to love making various supernatural men who are dangerous (typically vampires, but also others) the focus, and such typically has a wide female readership. Not so much with less dangerous unusual types, like elves (though that does also exist, just not on the best seller list).

posted August 16, 2009 07:04 PM         

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For me, it's not on a sexual level that I'm attracted to unusual types. I find that it's more on a mental level. I just find them exciting to be with on an every-day basis and they're more intellectually stimulating as well.

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How so?

Btw, I grew up around "bad boys" of all kinds. My ancestors include Wild West bank robbers and outlaws and today has many tattooed rednecks who are on the wild side, won't hesitate to kick some butt, and make the kids ride in the back of their trucks (one more reason I liked to keep my hair short back then) while their guns rode in the front. I've also been around many, like at 15 I was in a krew of runaway kids which included a few adults and some adults who mixed with us and also used us to help them in their own crimes or swindles. At 16 I hitchhiked from TX to CA, meeting all kinds of druggies and dysfunctional people on the journey. And I could go on.

The point being, I'm not just ignorantly assuming that they're all mentally slow because they're "bad." From my experience many of them are pretty much just as smart & dumb, dogmatic & creative, kind & cruel, honorable & dishonorable as anyone in straight society, the differences being more cosmetic and/or socially enforced rather than substantial. But I also don't know what you mean by "intellectually stimulating."