posted August 29, 2009 03:04 AM         

If there are any asteroids I need to add please let me know and I'll repost the chart with asteroids.

posted August 29, 2009 04:15 AM         

edit, and also probably the amount, as jupiter expands, in this case with the square possibly the amount of accidents and also tenanted in h6 the body's capability to recover.

posted August 29, 2009 04:41 AM         

I will get the info off him and find out when these accidents occurred and where Jupiter was in his chart.

Interesting that they have same rising sign/similar house placements, both with Jupiter in 6th.

posted August 29, 2009 06:05 AM         

the 2nd man his chart i find interesting, as his jupiter's major trine is to his h6 ruler, located in h2. this is if his time of birth is very exact because that cusp is varying pisces/aries, nevertheless mars or neptune would be involved and theyre both involved in the following: neptune h2 sort of a dissolving of the mundane in a sense, it's oppsed his mars h8, and they're both in tune with h12 pluto and h6 jupiter to make a mystic rectangle. there is some heaviness to his configurations, a very strong weight, im wondering about any near death experiences for him, the type that has a spiritual awakening in a sense? i wonder with all that pressure pushing down on his sun/moon if it was all orchestrated on a different plane to relieve him of some type of tension that he's been experiencing for quite some time now, or if the experiences came when he was under great emotional duress (namely really feeling that h12 pluto sq his sun/moon). this is all just speculation, mind.

posted August 29, 2009 06:25 AM         

I can't say for sure what was going on in his life when his experiences happened. There's a large age gap between us - he pretty much raised me actually. I was just very young during these times.

He's someone who's always had very strong faith. Honestly the strongest I've ever seen in anyone. He's very emotionally disturbed though. I just don't think he's ever had real peace but I wont get into that.

This is his most vivid experience that I know of:

He was having surgery for sleep apnea when he was around 23 and they were having difficulty keeping him "under" and ended up putting him too far down. He was legally dead.

posted August 29, 2009 08:56 AM         

Maybe they charmed there way out of death

LOL

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•' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ •

•Sun• Cancer
•Moon• Gemini
•Mars• Cancer
•Mercury• Cancer
•Venus• Leo

posted August 29, 2009 11:08 AM         

Here's my chart. It's similar to the ones above.

edit: an example of my weird experiences is that I was hit by a bus when I was young. The bus flung me across the road. I did lose consciousness but when I came to, the only evidence that something happened to me was that I had a scratch on my leg. The bus, on the other hand, was a mess. The front of the bus was crushed. The doctors and the police didn't know what to make of the whole thing.

posted August 29, 2009 04:33 PM         

The chart of Anicia's brother has the 8th house ruler at a critical degree (29 Scorpio), but it's also trine an angular Saturn -- so he has longevity despite 8th-house crisis situations. Mars in the 8th also brings accident-proneness, a danger of death by violence or where blood loss (Mars) is involved. The Mars-Jupiter sextile can save him in situations where he ordinarily would die. (I have an 8th house Mars in Gemini sextile Jupiter as well... plus Libra rising... and I am definitely accident-prone but lucky, too.)

MsCandeh's friend has an unaspected 8th house ruler (I don't count trines to the nodes). The qualities of unaspected planets tend to either run amok or hide away completely... or alternate between the two extremes. So 8th house affairs pop up sporadically and in severe ways. The highly beneficial star Spica is conjunct his ascendant, bringing some good luck that may override the dangers he faces.

Unmoved... your chart also has a Saturn/8th house ruler connection (conjunct) which I really think helps a person outlive potentially fatal experiences. Your Chiron is also pretty close to Algol -- the star of extreme violence, beheadings, etc. -- with Mars in opposition.

This is a really interesting thread!

posted August 29, 2009 08:29 PM         

I also saw that Spica is conjunct my Pluto and Saturn too. (wide orbs)

posted August 29, 2009 09:24 PM         

The ruler of his 8th house makes a nice angle (quincunx) with Jupiter, indicating good luck.

The ruler of his 12th house makes a nice angle with Saturn, indicating death only when it's "time".

posted August 30, 2009 02:57 AM         

thanks for the interpretation! I think he does have a bit of a 'I am invincible' streak in him, but I think that may have come about due to him surviving accidents! Will definitely remind him of his mortality though!

belgz,
Haha yes I gotta say he is an extremely charming guy. It wouldn't surprise me if he charmed his way out of death lol

JChristine,
When I spoke to him about this recent accident I said.. "so how many lives left do you have now?" .. We have an ongoing joke about him being a cat in a past life who died before the 9 lives were up so he brought them into this life lol (okay that may seem weird but eh!)
.. but the Gemini in the 8th is an interesting theory.

Unmoved,
Apologies if this seems insensitive but your experience reminded me of the movie Hancock lol I wonder if there is anything to this in your chart too!

Origami_salami,
I also noticed the new moons between the two charts.
It's interesting as I think my friend's life revolves around a lot of 8th house issues. He lives in 8th even though he doesn't have any planets there/the house ruler is unaspected. I would say this is significant in his life (i.e. runs amok)... good observation

Belage, thanks for your input too! Very interesting! He certainly has a lot of luck and I read on astro.cafeastrology.com (though a VERY short interp)

quote:

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"House VIII in Taurus

Happy old age, natural death. Inheritance.
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Well, I just asked him the dates of the accidents and he said he cant remember them exactly as he tries to forget things like that, which is a fair call, I am sure he could if he tried to but I didn't want to push it.

The accident on Friday night:

tUranus conjunct his nJupiter in H6
tJupiter semi-sextile nJupiter (tChiron exact semi-sextile nJupiter, tNeptune semi-sextile as well)

natally the star SPI (not sure what it means) is conjunct his sun.
the fixed star REG conjunct his Venus.

Thanks for all the input this is really interesting!