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lionseye***
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posted September 04, 2009 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Leo here
sun, mercury & mars in Leo, in tbe 8th house, Venus in Leo in the 9th house. I simply don't feel jealous, that would imply that I hold someone in higher esteem than myself, and I am not capable of that. Envy on the other hand, I know well.
But envy is inspirational. It naturally requires respect and a desire to know "what works"....
Leo is naturally progressive
and all fire signs are easily inspired

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 04, 2009 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
woah - sun moon merc in leo, taurus asc

lionseye - i bet you are a bad mamma jamma

i agree. no point in jealousy. mistrust or pss off...that we can get.

territorial - unbelievably so, but we can solve that with the "look" when infringed upon.. most leos have perfected the "look" by age 7. with "the look" we can take care of business without even saying a word, and back off is pretty much the best bet.

actually my first born leo child perfected "the look" by age 3.

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downtomars
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posted September 04, 2009 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
CPN -

You mentioned something in another thread that I thought I should bring up in this thread because it pertained to territory: You said that your exes are off limits to friends - I guess that is where my Aquarius rising and Saturn in the 8th comes in, I actually hooked up one of my exes with one of my friends! My ex and I had ended things amicably and remained friends but he used to call me so much that I was like "here is my friend's number..." now leave me alone! They were (pre-)engaged for a short time and joked that I would be the maid of honor and best woman!

When I am through with you, I am through!

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 04, 2009 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i guess an ex is an ex, but i dont fish in my friends old ponds.

i thought it was an unwritten woman law.

if they like my stuff they can have my old sweaters.

i in no way judge you for it, but when you have a best girlfriend you tend to discuss your relationships time to time. and even sex life from time to time. and no i dont want my girlfriends on my old boat with my ex husband listening to my old cd's.

they can all go jump in the lake.

my ex friend was a sag too, all my exes are now her hang out buds.

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downtomars
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posted September 04, 2009 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
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i dont fish in my friends old ponds.

I don't do that either - I can't see myself dating any of my friends exes (shudders, eww) but she's an up for anything Sag, it wasn't a big deal to her.

ETA: Plus it was with my permission, I had control over this, not sure how I'd feel if they met up in a bar one night or something but since I was the matchmaker, hey, go for it! LOL

It is like those "bring your ex parties", you actually are in control there...

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woah city
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posted September 04, 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
wowza i'm really getting a feel for the leo vibe. The Look reminds me of a very pertinent childhood story. i wonder if this girl represents my missing leg. she was a leo and an absolute bully. she commanded the entire class with little more than Looks. obviously an extreme example but i remembered thinking leos were jerks when i was a kid, due to several years of my entire class being torutured by her. she was born exactly 6 months before me, which is interesting. but i countered her bs with my aquarian reform action once i couldn't stand it anymore. i had a breakdown in class, which got the entire class talking (we had an AMAZING teacher who was fond of group discussions). we all became best friends from thereon in. even she mellowed out and related to us all as friends, and her bullyisms morphed into true confidence and warmth. it was great.

my missing leg is growing back, but it's fairly miniature at this point. i love hearing these perspectives! i tend to not have a lot of time to reply these days but i wanted to thank everyone. i'll be back when this stump's grown enough to lean on. at that point i will be able to put my sense of the leo Thang into words. it's all making sense so far.

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Valus
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posted September 06, 2009 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

Wishing you healing.

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Valus
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posted September 07, 2009 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
Here's my take on the leo thing...

If Leo refuses jealousy, it has something to do with his/her ideation of individuality. This fundamental orientation to what most and best reflects the heart of the individual, leads leo to value only the love that is freely given, because this sign, more than any other, wants to be loved for who he/she is. So, because leo simply will not perform for a lover who has not cast him/her with top-billing, neither would he/she worry, or feel jealous, if such a lover were to be unfaithful (and only such lovers are unfaithful).

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woah city
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posted September 07, 2009 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
definitely feeling that, valus! thanks..

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lionseye***
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posted September 10, 2009 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
Yes..I think he's on to something. Leos want to be loved and admired fully, as is, and if that's not forthcoming, if the mate cheats, they're simply not the one for them. It's never about Leo's lacks. (according to Leo) - It's only about the lack of character of the mate. Now, don't think this doesn't hurt Leo in a big way. They like to think anyone they get close to or feel anything for is above reproach, like them. They will defend them til the day they die. So betrayal is hard for them to reconcile. When you say you love them, they actually believe you. A Leo who's love light has gone out is a sad sight, and a difficult sight to behold if you're the former loved one.

As for jealousy...not really there. Why would you stray? If you did, you're not the one for them.

but don't expect them to condone you hanging out with the opposite sex all the time either. They're not foolish...things happen...and a respectable person wouldn't make them wonder like that in the first place. You won't go far if you insist on having opposite sex freinds who you hang out with constantly. Especially if they come into the picture AFTER we're together. Yeah, no.

lol..now I sound jealous. I don't think it's about that. It's about respect for the relationship, and not wanting you to rock the boat. And if you insist, you're just shifty, and therefore...disappointing..and on your way out.

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woah city
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posted September 10, 2009 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
"yeah, no."

thanks lionseye! yup i think i'm really starting to comprehend now. it is, in a sense, almost the opposite of jealousy. because it's an energy that is full of confidence and esteem. both for self and others. jealousy infers weakness and a lack.

with my 'significant' 'other' this week i had a couple instances where i felt a jealous moment beginning and then immediately thought, 'holy sh*t, i really AM better than this.' and it was that simple. 'and furthermore, if you do not realize just how great i am, then you have got problems as i will not scramble for your affections.'

cuz the leo thang really seems to be about GIVING this great 'love':
warmth, encouragement, recognition and esteem. recognizing the grandness in another AND wanting the same in return. at its heart it isn't about pride or vanity at all, it is about celebrating one another and enjoying the the experience fully. so of course it would not pander itself to any emotion taking away from this expression or its persuit!

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
wow lionseye..you summed that up perfectly!

i think thats why its hard for leos and geminis to be together....geminis have tons of friends the opposite sex and generally don't see the danger in it until the line has been crossed. leo's see it coming. if you go out drinking with the girls from work, sooner or later ...crap happens......plus, we do not want our signifiacnt other discussing any relationship issues we might be having with anyone, let alone another woman.

whoa's story of the bully leo though....i guess some leo's have that....i had a leo boss that was a bully for 8 years...she was rediculus.... would throw her weight around, stomp, yell in the office, pawn her work off and head to st croix for 3 weeks at a time..she was very heavy too, and when i would hear her stomp down the hall, i would sing
(...i feel the earth ...move .....under my feet, i feel the sky tumbling down tumbeling down)
.....she hated me (literally) because i didnt respond to her when she acted like that, she would yell at me and act like she actually wanted to hit me and i would just look at her, like how rediculas you are...and that just made her madder. she had no class at all. when i quit and gave my notice, she actually told me to just leave now as i had plenty of vacation time i should just leave now. i put up with it for 8 years because it paid well, and i liked the job, she was the administrator, i was the director. your story reminded me that there are obnoxious leo's who bully thier way through life...

but miserable people have some kind of contract to make others miserable too. and since she had nothing in her life as far as people, just the job, i felt sorry for her in a way.

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Lucia23
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posted September 10, 2009 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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When you say you love them, they actually believe you.

Yes, exactly! Honesty is a big priority to us. Most Leos really respect it, even if it doesn't stroke our egos and we aren't so happy with the truth.

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vertiver
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posted September 10, 2009 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
I'm currently doing the biggest experiment of all, being a Leo Sun and dating a Leo Sun/ Ascendant, wow! The only reason it seems to be working out is that I'm more mutable and don't really fit the most Leo characteristics for some reason. I'm shy, slightly aloof and very into personal space, must be my Sagittarius Ascendant or I haven't fully reached my Leo potential, lol! Either way, I love Leos and I love the ladies even more than the boys!

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