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glamgem25
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posted September 15, 2009 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Who feels the sexual passion more? The Mars person or the house person?

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MsCandeh
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posted September 15, 2009 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
I've had this experience with one person's mars hitting my 8th.

I think it is definitely a mutual thing

As I don't know his TOB I am not sure of where my mars landed in his chart.. but it was hot!! His mars (which also conjunct his venus) also sextiled my mars in Scorp .. and he is a Scorp sun/moon/saturn/mercury .. so I'm not sure whether we should also be blaming Scorpio for this one too :P

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Lucia23
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posted September 15, 2009 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
The house person feels the planets falling into his/her houses.

However, there's not necessarily a correlation between this placement and sexual passion...obviously, both charts need to be taken into account. It could play out in terms of other 8th house issues, playing up the house person's sense of what other people "have", debt, death, transformation, battles for power.

Any potentially erotic energy in a chart can also play out as other kinds of energy or intensity instead.

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posted September 15, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
I think house overlays are mutual, but the people experience them differently. The house person is receptive, the planet person active.

In your example, the house person will experience the planet person in an 8th house way. The other person's body energy will touch their 8th house. In a sexual relationship, the house person will feel like the Mars person physically expresses themselves in a way that the house person desires. To put it simply, the Mars person will turn on the house person.

In turn, the planet person experiences their body energy as impacting the house person in that way. When in the house person's company, they'll perceive their own Mars as playing an 8th house role.

I think things can get one-sided because the planet person is more focused on the self - I'm like this - while the house person focuses on the other - you make me feel like this.

We'd probably all agree that it's impossible to determine someone's level of attraction from an isolated synastry aspect. But as an abstract question, I think that although both are affected, it's generally the house person who feels overlays more, since they're receiving the energy.

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Lucia23
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posted September 15, 2009 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I see the houses as representing a place--the arena in the house person's life where the planet person effects them. I don't think it's mutual.

Each person will feel:
-the other person's planets falling into her/his houses in that area of life...for example, if someone's giant stellium falls into your 9th, that person may shape your philosophy or travel experiences. He/she will feel you in the areas where YOUR planets fall in his/her chart.
-the mutual contacts between planets...for instance, if A's Saturn in A's 5th conjuncts B's Saturn in B's 8th, A will feel that dynamic in relation to his/her own 5th house issues. B will feel that dynamic in relation to his/her 8th house issues.

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Lucia23
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posted September 15, 2009 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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We'd probably all agree that it's impossible to determine someone's level of attraction from an isolated synastry aspect.

It also seems to me that it's impossible to determine somebody's attraction level from a whole slew of aspects that ought to, all together and studied within the context of each natal, indicate intense attraction. I find this one of the major problems of synastry. Mathematically, synastry indicates that everyone effects us--sure, some people's charts hit more of our natal power points more exactly than others--but in synastry, EVERYTHING in your chart will hit some spot on the other person's chart and vice-versa.

Whereas in real life, sometimes you just won't care at all about someone, even if they have a huge stellium exactly conjuncting your 5th house Eros-Sun. Even if you have 80 "soul mate" aspects.

Synastry shows potential. As with genetics, you can have a 99% chance of having a certain cancer, and never get that cancer. There are no 100% chances in potential.

That said, as one "cookbook" aspect, I really do think only the house person would feel the Mars...even if the house person has 8th house planets conjuncting the Mars, the Mars person will feel those aspects in his or her natal Mars house, not with an 8th house flavor. In my opinion.

I always feel like questions like this are just "Is he into me?" questions--checking to see if the other person is turned on by you. Obviously, the dynamics with the saame placement will be different for a parent-child or two strangers or someone in a happy marriage and the person obsessed with them than for a mutually attracted couple, even at the crudest "cookbook" level.

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posted September 15, 2009 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
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It also seems to me that it's impossible to determine somebody's attraction level from a whole slew of aspects that ought to, all together and studied within the context of each natal, indicate intense attraction.

I agree with that, and I even considered saying it. But I was trying to stay more focused on the particular question rather than get into my philosophy around it, something I'm not good at resisting. So thanks for making resisting even harder for me, Lucia, jeez!

We're not determined by our natals, and relationships aren't determined by synastry and composites. Astrology shows tendencies and potentials, but can't tell us what will come of that.

I'm not an astrological reductionist - we're more than our charts. There's something about us that transcends the personality shown in a chart (natal or relationship). And to me, it's from that part of ourselves that we live and love at our truest.

So when I say that it's impossible to determine someone's level of attraction from an isolated synastry aspect, I mean on the astro potential level. It's impossible to see the tendency from that one aspect.

And then on the deep level beyond tendencies, it's impossible to see the truth of a person or relationship from the entire chart. Someone once said on this board that you can glimpse the soul with astrology but you can't see it fully. A full synastry analysis can give you a glimpse of how people will likely impact one another, but it won't show you the real deal.

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glamgem25
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posted September 15, 2009 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the feedback!

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