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MsCandeh
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posted September 18, 2009 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
*hugs*
I have a good friend who is born 1 day after you.. he is a very deeply intense person who loves passionately and fully... I can understand how much you must have felt for her.

Us stubborn Taurus's can be swayed... it is just a long, slow process... a lot of people don't have that much patience/persistence (cos that's a Taurean trait too lol) ... keep faith. If you truly know in your heart what you want let things happen the way they were meant to.. this could be the Universe's way of showing you a valuable lesson you need to learn. Look out for signs (unusual coincidences that happen frequently that link to the relationship/her).

I think you should go for the move to France and learn French there - you will pick it up so much quicker. Sometimes change is what we need to kickstart the future... yes, we need time to grieve of course, but grieving while keeping an eye on the future is key Keep moving forward and planning your life as if she wasn't in it... and ... you never know where you might end up I would definitely recommend you continue your language study - such an invaluable skill to have! Who knows... maybe meeting her and deciding to learn her native language was just a fateful piece of the puzzle.. perhaps this could lead onto something bigger and better. You will be able to look back and understand why this had to happen.. take comfort in that *hug*

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carl
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posted September 18, 2009 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Raymond, again, thanks. Mercury in 8th house sounds scary to me. Scary especially in how intense it sounds/ is worded. I don't know if I could handle it!

Thanks MsC. Kind words and again, I would love to move to France someday, but it is harder for an American than a citizen of the EU. Not impossible, but I think the best way is through a 1500USD CELTA course here in Beijing (and all around the world too). That will open a lot of doors for me.

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pire
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posted September 20, 2009 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
how are you doing?

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carl
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posted September 20, 2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for asking Pire.

I am trying to keep myself busy. But with every free second I get, I stop to think. And when I actually have time to think, I think about this girl, and my heart skips a beat. People might not sense it, but this girl, who may very well be so different from me, synastry wise, changed me like crazy. She really did. I don't think I even appreciate it fully.

I don't know what my heart does, exactly, scientifically speaking, but it does something heavy when I think of certain memories. It is like a less positive version of the butterflies I suppose.

Of course it is not positive with the breakup, I am sure there are some "anti butterflies" moving about too. But I think some of her lessons will live on for a long time. I am left figuring out some of them.

Music excites me for a small bit of time these days, but I always return to a certain feeling because of someone...

I wish things could be different, but they are not and I must move on.

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pire
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posted September 21, 2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
carl

i think you are doing fine; there is no specific cure for this kind of disease unfortunately :laugh:

i'm so tired right now, i've been spending 10 hours on the roads today and have 5 hours sleep before i do the same again; i'll keep an eye on your thread later.

PS: i just thought about this topic, do you think we should ask for it to be transfered in Soul Union?

a better place to talk about this, there is a river there, stones covered by moth(?) and a few leaves, some sun rays shine through the cloudy sky and trees. there are plenty of wild and peaceful animals there. it's a safe place, if you find a bench or a table, take a sit, i'll come around


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oneruledbymars
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posted September 21, 2009 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
I might show up too Carl if you dont mind. With some lunch for everyone...
*wink at Pire*

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BlueTopaz124
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posted September 21, 2009 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry about your breakup Carl. She seems to have affected you deeply...

I hope the days get easier for you to get through this. Keep the faith and hang in there. You never know what will happen.

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carl
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posted September 21, 2009 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys.

Yah, if there is a more relevant place for this thread, by all means, transfer it on over!

Pire - I know how that is, my mom is insane with driving actually. She has driven from CT to FLA, in 24 hours, spent a week, and driven the 24 hours back. She does 4 hours (one way) to Maine, and completes the round trip the same day sometimes.

Anyways, there is something difficult to deal with:

Chinese girls, who are normally shy, especially around foreigners, are NOT shy about one thing: Once they work up the courage to talk to you, they ALWAYS inquire about a certian thing, "So, what about your gf (situation)?" or "Do you have a gf?" When I say no, they ask "Do you want one." Sometimes they will even ask, since I am 24, if I am married. Chinese tend to marry younger than their western counterparts and marriage is a much more straightforward thing here. One guy offered to help me get a gf out of the blue, in one of my classes. Also, when I say I am single, I will often get one of the following: "Do you want a Chinese gf?" or "Do you want a Chinese...WIFE?" (Yikes!!) I get the more subtle "What do you think of Chinese girls?" Of course they are beautiful and generally soft, but, I don't say that with the intention of getting a gf or...[gasp]....wife!

What I say, and I think they have a hard time understanding this, is "I am happy being single (right now). In the west, people don't always need a gf or bf." I think in general, the Chinese are very dependent on someone else for their happiness, hence why the topic of my relationship status ALWAYS comes up, especially when I first meet a new person or group. In my 12 classes that I have met so far, last year and this year, all 12 have asked if I had a gf/wife, etc. during my introduction class, where I have a Q/A session for the students to get to know me more. I have nine more intro classes and I guarantee I will get the question 9 times more, for a total of 21-21 in my first two semesters of classes. I tell them that in the west, people don't get married, sometimes until 30, 40, 50 and beyond, if at all! I tell them, people will date for 10-15 years or more before marriage. They are shocked, especially that westerners will wait 10+ years. Marriage is more straightforward in general here, and occurs a lot quicker after the initial relationship is set up. Sometimes "marriage" is a topic that is mentioned early on in the beginnings of the relationship. So when I say "I wouldn't mind getting married at 30", the students are amazed! Truth be told, maybe it happens next year, fine, or when I am 30, fine..as long as it is not as late as late 30s.

So, that was long winded to state a point: It is very difficult, especially after a breakup, to get these questions ad nausea. It is tough to deal with but I suppose with nine more classes and plenty of new faces, I will eventually get used to it. I guess I will have to. But most Chinese, by the age of 25, are in a relationship and marriage is on the table, if it hasn't already occured. I have a 26 year old single friend, and his mom said "You better have a gf within the next year." That was spring semester..Now it is fall semester, of course. He graduated last spring, but is trying like crazy, visiting the campus every day. I am not knocking the culture, not at all, just stating how it is. But it sometimes doesn't mesh with the west's, often times, more independent views on life, especially in regards to relationships. Better to be single sometimes is what we say. You need to love yourself and be okay with yourself before you are within someone else and can love them is common in the west. I don't think the Chinese even say or think that. But I think that is why I see a lot of average relationships and marriages. The couple were so obsessed with finding a mate, so dependent on someone else to be complete, when they needed to find that from within first.

So, I guess the relationship dynamics here are just turning up some sore spots for now..

Although for some odd reason, I had a dream that I had a fling with a girl I had met before my gf in real life. No clue why I had that dream and find it to be odd.

Thanks for listening.

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Glaucus
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posted September 22, 2009 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
hey carl,

Mercury in 8th house can be a pretty cool placement. It can be great for research,investigation, and getting to the bottom of things.


also please feel free to email me
and/or chat me up on yahoo messenger if you use it.

astynaz@yahoo.com


I do believe that there is a great window of opportunities for love,romance,and relationship that I went over with you. I wish you all the best. I don't think that there is anything worse than having your heart broken. I can straight up tell you and be honest with you that the day I broke up that I was so emotionally devastated, I had an upset stomach and had diarrhea. I didn't eat anything to get that. I cried for many days and months on and off. It really sucked. It was so hard to let go. I felt like I lost the love of my life.

In spite of my thinking that I am over her, I had a dream about her with my being intimate and passionate with her this morning during her lunar return of Scorpio Moon which conjunct my Sun and trine my Moon in Pisces. It made me wonder if the emotional connection was still there between us,and that subconsciously she was reaching out. I hate thinking stuff like this because I don't want to see crazy. My strong Saturnian type of nature conflicts a lot with my strong water/Neptunian side.

so I do really empathize with you. I don't want you to feel like I felt. I hope that you heal well from your breakup and that you move on with somebody that is a great match for you.

I remember you from your posts about your girlfriend. I think that her name was Celine. I am not sure. Any ways....it was obviously you loved and cared for her a great deal just like I felt for Meghann. I was shocked to find out about the breakup, and I wanted to reach out to you and help you out.


You have a lot of friends here at Lindaland,and I am one of them. You got a lot of a good advice from people here.


I wish you all the best.
I am rooting for you!


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

- Eckhart Tolle

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lalalinda
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posted September 22, 2009 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message

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Yin
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posted September 22, 2009 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
I am sorry to hear about your break-up, carl.
Long-distance relationships are very difficult to sustain. You must have really loved each other to last 3 and a half years that way.

Hope you will heal sooner than later.

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DepTaurus
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posted September 22, 2009 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DepTaurus     Edit/Delete Message
aww carl thats is some heavy loving right there.

i know how it feels long distance relationships are really hard.
hopefully your doing ok. you see the light again some day.

peace xoxo

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libraschoice7
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posted September 22, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
Carl sorry to hear about your breakup with your girl. You will be ok, many places to explore and plenty people to meet. Sending you lots of warm wishes

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Lucia23
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posted September 22, 2009 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Mercury in 8th house can be a pretty cool placement. It can be great for research,investigation, and getting to the bottom of things.

I agree...I love my 8th house Merc.

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