posted September 17, 2009 02:11 PM         

My advice is to get very clear and go for what you want. Whether it is intuition or your hopes, pursue your dream.

Also--I reccommend keeping a careful journal of all of your sleeping dreams, and of revelations that feel like they are psychic/intuitive in your waking life. This does a couple of great things:

-it helps you look back over past events and see which of your dreams, visions, or hunches were predictive

-it allows you to give your unconscious self the message that you take it very seriously, which in turn improves the accuracy of your dreams and intuitive flashes.

posted September 17, 2009 05:37 PM         

So back to your question. It does not matter whether this is a premonition or wishful thinking. Whatever you desire is clearly something you want. So be realistic - what one small step could you take to go in the direction of your dream? If it is far fetched don't dismiss it, maybe the timing is not now but later. Also is what your thinking about truly what you want. For instance, I know many young people who want to be a star. Just watch American Idol and you know what I mean. But the talent is not there. I think that they are really looking for love, attention, to do something of significance in which they are appreciated. They just don't realize what they want. If they wanted to be a great artist, they would work at their craft through hell and high water. The recognition or criticism would motivate them to keep working. They would stick with pursuing their dream for years and decades because achieving their goal has nothing to personally do with them. Their are plenty of great artists not in the limelight -off off Broadway maybe even your neighborhood.

posted September 17, 2009 07:59 PM         

For example, I once had a very realistic dream that I was walking home from the library on Christmas (when it would actually be closed) and was passing a Catholic church near me that was lit up and a cat I didn't know came up to me for food. It was so real.

posted September 17, 2009 08:03 PM         

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but self-fulfillment dreams are actually great because it's your psyche's way of giving you what you want. It's the beginning of manifesting

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Meh. I have always had prophetic dreams pretty regularly (I think they are actually quite common, as people who keep dream journals learn)...and through my whole life, if I dreamed about a guy I was attracted to, it meant he loved and wanted me badly and we were about to have sex within a month or two.

THEN, I met the Scorpio/Pisces Moon man a couple of years ago, and I had all these really intense dreams about him, the same kind I always have about guys I'm going to hook up with. In the dreams we had this very intense connection that I also felt in life. And in this one case, my dreams were wrong AND my waking perception was wrong AND my intuition was wrong. Not coincidentally, I had a Neptune-opposition-Sun transit happening.

ANYWAY, I found the wish fulfillment dreams shameful and highly unfulfilling, because they were so exactly like my regular dreams that indicate that my attractions are mutual...so they just made me feel delusional and sad and like Neptune, my dreams, and my own subconscious were against me.

My intuition about things like that has been 100% right SINCE Pisces Moon Man, but I no longer trust it the way I used to. I really don't see anything nice about wish fulfillment dreams--to me, unless they come true or are true, they just show up the nauseating discrepency between our wishes and a life in which they are not coming true. I mean, lots of times it ISN'T the beginning of manifesting--if the dream world/my fantasy life is the only place it manifests, I'd rather not go there at all.

posted September 17, 2009 08:22 PM         

I don't find intuition to ever be wrong.... but you know, I HAVE been in a similar situation to the one you described with your guy. I had the dreams and the feelings, etc.
Interestingly, I was going through a Neptune transit too. It was pretty crazy - squares, from what I remember, to some personal planets. I already have Neptune in the 7th and moon in the 12th (even though it's in Aries, it's on a Pisces cusp)... so I can be HIGHLY Neptunian when it comes to love.
And during that time, my dreams 'lied'. I can't say they lied - I think it was like my own desires welled up and manifested in dreams....to 'make' it real.
This has happened more than once when I was in my 20's with TWO men.
It completely destroyed me when the 'truth' came about.... I was so humiliated, and was like, wow, how delusional AM I? lol.

But there's another side to it:

I think it's because I had emotions invested that my intuition wasn't 'on'. I had an emotional agenda. And I got my a$$ kicked because I did.
I've found intuition to be most accurate when there's no emotion involved. It's almost like emotion is besides the point.
You have logic and you have feelings, and then you have intuition, which is neither of these things. In some ways if I really want something I find it hard to remove my feelings from it, but if I want it to come to me, then I have to detach myself FROM my feelings in order to see it clearly.
Only then does the intuition kick in, I've noticed.

posted September 17, 2009 08:59 PM         

And I didn't have that with Pisces Moon Man. I didn't want him right away. I started wanting him BECAUSE of the dreams and because of the way (I thought) he was staring at me.

So it was almost like those dreams were wish creation, not wish fulfillment. It was almost like Neptune was just f--king with me for no reason, or I was ******* with myself. (My overswollen, insecure Leo-Cancer bits also still secretly hold the idea that maybe the Pisces Moon Man was f--king with me and he did want me and he decided to sabotage both of us out of a grim masochism.)

Maybe Aqua Neptune was trying to say, "Hey, Miss 8th House Leo seductress with your big, shiny golden mane and your grossly distended, shiny golden ego--maybe it's time to focus your energies on fighting for justice and trying to change the world instead of on hunting for mates, napping, and getting massages." I don't know. I don't know exactly what the message was.

Edited: but I think I still agree with you--intuition is never wrong. It just isn't.

posted September 18, 2009 12:14 AM         

I think that sometimes I have these very real-feeling visions and they turn to nothing. But sometimes I'll literally hear a very clear voice in my head TELL me to DO something, or tell me about something, and I can't ignore it. And it's like it cuts through everything, and integrates the dream stuff.
So, maybe the answer is your gut voice. The one which cuts through everything and just says it like it is.

posted September 18, 2009 01:51 AM         

Intuition tends to get most muddled for me in situations like the one you've described on that other thread--where really, there's not some clear, right, happy thing to do, because it's not a clear relationship. My intuition really likes clarity.

EDITED: A good rule of thumb--unless a person you love is sitting by the hospital bed of a dying child or parent, having a psychotic break, or lost in a storm at sea, he will probably contact you directly by conscious methods such as phone, email, or dropping by, rather than showing up in a dream or vision.

In dreams, crucial messages from your own unconscious will show up. And crucial messages from loved ones in need. AND very occasionally, a loved one expressing something they cannot consciously express...which is probably what you're hoping for.

Unless it's a situation involving duress (like the dream I had where my wee sister, who I had been out of touch with for a few months, was writing these scary messages for me from the inside of a mirror and looking at me with anguish...the dream was terrifying for me...I called her when I woke up and a close friend of hers had been killed that day)--unless it is that sort of content, I think it's CRUCIALLY important not to let anything that might be a fantasy build to a crescendo and get further from reality.

If you are starting to feel, "My ex is communicating with me in dreams because he can't communicate his love/need for me when he's awake" [which, he could if he wanted to, right?]....intercept that ASAP by just giving him a call and finding out what's going on in his head. If the idea of talking to him in real life fills you with a queasy feeling, then you KNOW you're not really getting any sort of intuitive or psychic message from him.

posted September 18, 2009 03:46 AM         

What do you think of situations where 2 people share a dream?

I've had this happen - where me and someone I was seeing were dreaming (as we slept together) that we were awake in bed talking about how we loved each other, declaring our love . Then we got up and described almost the exact dream to each other lol (and declared our love).

What do you think of stuff like that?

posted September 18, 2009 05:30 PM         

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And I didn't have that with Pisces Moon Man. I didn't want him right away. I started wanting him BECAUSE of the dreams and because of the way (I thought) he was staring at me.

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posted September 18, 2009 05:31 PM         

One thing that's been unhealthy for me (with my Pluto squared AC, Pluto square Saturn-Moon-DC, AC opposite Saturn-Moon...which turns minor emotional episodes and romantic foibles into life-death drama unless I work with it) is that on sites like this, people make very very basic, straightforward things into huge mystical complicated things on the Soul Level...like, 'oh, this guy is giving me turbulent looks, but it seems we are both too moved by our intense Soul Connection to even speak to each other'--it's usually a way to retreat into fantasy, to avoid the reality that the guy is disturbed, not interested, or the relationship is toast.

I think--again, unless the guy is at sea, you're dreaming he's drowning regularly, and he is unreachable by phone or other communication devices...or he is in triage or something--that there's no reason for people to NOT just talk to each other until things are simple and clear, unless they WANT to stay in a fantasy for as long as possible.

MVM, I definitely do believe people communicate with each other in dreams, visions, and in many other ways that are associated with intuition or "psychic" activity. Until Pisces Moon Man, I thought that this was as valid and regular a mode of communication as any other. After Pisces Moon Man and full immersion of my wounded Cancer bits and shattered ego on astrology web sites, I understand that lots of people have obsessive dreams about, say, celebrities they do not know...which is a common part of de Clérambault's syndrome and other delusional disorders.

I still absolutely believe we communicate in dreams or psychically with each other. But those communication forms are uniquely and especially vulnerable to delusion. That doesn't mean that they are ALL delusional--far from it.

We can solve this problem by not getting all complicated about communication in waking life. If we are obsessing about someone while asleep or awake, we should call them and spend in-person time with them, so that what is really happening between us (or not) becomes clear.

posted September 19, 2009 04:09 PM         

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...I started dreaming about him after we had met, but before I got consciously interested in him...

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The way my intuition works, I usually meet romantic partners in my dreams before they manifest in real life. I like this. Of course the dreams are cryptic I don't make out the faces. But it's cool to suddenly find myself in my dream, wide awake and fully conscious. I've asked but no one has admitted meeting me in the astral realms.

posted September 21, 2009 10:11 PM         

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"intuition works when you're calm, and mellow, and NOT worried about the consequencies"

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