posted September 27, 2009 08:55 AM         

he alsway has to run off and save some woman from major drama. its like he's a drama queen magnet. he loves him some women that need some help!

he gets a call and i say, put your cape on, captain! or when i see him i just raise my arms like superman flying and he knows what it means!

mvm - i used to take in strays too, worse habbit than smoking. i quit!

posted September 27, 2009 04:14 PM         

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For a connection to seem like "true love" to me, the partner has to be someone who I can share the broken parts of myself with. There needs to be an element of support and compassion, an "I'm here to help you through this" type of connection. If he can't live in that space, he's not the man for me. In turn, I immerse my partner into a part of himself he may not have experienced yet, the place where emotion is raw and aching for something sublime and profoundly real. Let's see colors that have never been seen. Let's go to places no one else has been. Fair trade? So I guess you could say that I look for a partner to rescue me from my past and to help me grow despite scars, and in turn I rescue my partner from the mundane.

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I totally agree with that Jane. That's a really awesome description of Chiron in the 7th. I know because I also have Chiron in the 7th (involved in a lovely T-square with Jupiter, my Sun and Venus).

I tend to attract men who are an emotional mess, but I don't really want them. In fact, I've turned away many men who are "charity cases" emotionally speaking, because I want a guy who I know is able to be supportive and who is able to be himself around me. Usually the guys who need to be rescued or are the charity cases are major drains because they haven't yet healed their own ego. I want a mutually supportive relationship in which we can both be ourselves, wounds, warts and all.

posted September 27, 2009 08:10 PM         

Stripping and other sex work is so stigmatized for women (not for the male patrons) that I see why strippers and other sex workers are seen as "women in trouble" in need of rescuing. I know some people find it empowering, but I see it as so blatently upholding a system where women are sold as fetishized objects, that I do read it as a sign that the woman is in distress. I also think patronizing the sex trade at any level is a sign of dysfunction or damage. It involves people as objects in a transaction, rather than as humans. Most women I know strongly disagree with my take on it, though.

posted September 27, 2009 10:58 PM         

Thanks.

I think we don't feel like we're living an area of life properly unless we're able to express its corresponding house in our chart. So those of us with a 7th house Chiron need to feel our Chiron expressed in our partnerships. Restricting its expression will make us feel like something vital is missing, and we'll keep looking until we find that bond that feels right.

Your guy, running_bull, may be learning from you how to relate to a woman as a full person, rather than as a caricature or symbol.

I see an analogy with him going to see strippers. As a straight man, he has a need to admire the female form. By going to strippers, he's satisfying that need, but in a way where the woman is an object. Similarly, as an individual, he has a need to experience Chiron and Neptune in his relationships. So he's been satisfying that need in the most obvious and crude way, by pairing up with women who are (in his eyes) desperately in need of a savior.

But just as a man can get his need for a woman's body satisfied within a full, complete relationship -- where the woman is more to him than just a body -- he can also get his Chiron/Neptune needs satisfied within one. With you, perhaps those mutual Saturn-Sun conjunctions show that he's learning to bond with the complete woman, not just the parts of her that "need" him.

posted September 28, 2009 05:57 AM         

unforutately for dancers, they can't really make that kind of money as a receptionist. A lot are just doing what it takes to feed thier family.

posted September 28, 2009 07:01 AM         

Jane Said:
"Your guy, running_bull, may be learning from you how to relate to a woman as a full person, rather than as a caricature or symbol."

Perhaps, we'll see how it shakes out.
I like him a lot - like a lot, a lot - but, I am being realistic about his preferences (why must people confess stuff to me, lol). I can't, nor would I try, to alter a man's sexual predisposition - Ime, they're kinda set in stone.

posted September 28, 2009 10:42 AM         

Yeah, I think my independence is not doing me any favors, which is weird. He is definitely a nice guy! But, we also have weird Uranus and Moon energy - I mean, even how we met is wacky. I'll attach the synastry chart for a bit so you can see what I mean, but I can tell without our charts that things are unusual. (I have always loved studying synastry but stopped doing my own 4 years ago. I'll have to look back at my posts, but I think it was 2005.)
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posted September 28, 2009 09:43 PM         

This jane's addiction is Taurus. (My SO's sign. I'm not hitting on you. Yet. )

That synastry between you two...besides the Saturn and Venus action, you also have mutual Mars-NN conjunctions and close angles. And your Mars on his DSC, where he natally has his NN...hmm, well, good luck with however things go, but that synastry looks like you two have a pretty strong connection.

posted September 28, 2009 09:50 PM         

I have it too, and everything you wrote is like
having a mirror held against my soul.

posted October 04, 2009 12:54 PM         

We do have a strong connection, however, I do not think he can break the rescue trend. That's why I concentrate on the strange aspects, it helps to have an awareness of the obstacles.

Especially Chiron, so thank you for your insight! On the 1st, and again last night, we had a long talk about his need to rescue women and this new woman he met. While there is no improper behavior on his part toward her, I can tell he is very attracted to her and interested in her story, so I told him to go for it.

I have no time or energy to fight it, and, at the same time, if he doesn't feel the same sort of attraction to me that he does to her, I have no interest. (Moon oppos. Moon energy there, hehe).

posted October 04, 2009 09:40 PM         

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if he doesn't feel the same sort of attraction to me that he does to her, I have no interest.

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