posted September 25, 2009 08:27 AM         

This old link from LL might be useful: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002165.html

I am very interested in Chiron in synastry and find that Magi Astrology has a lot of good information. Magi cite Chiron as having monumental importance for astrology because it is 'the "planet" that rules marriage, spouses, soulmates, and children born in marriage as well as karmic ties'.

Hope that helps.

posted September 25, 2009 02:08 PM         

again chiron can have a healing affect but 90% of the time it inflicts emotional issues that need to be healed in the future.

posted September 25, 2009 02:24 PM         

Man...he reminds me of William for some reason. He was very insightful when it came to composite charts. He told it like it was. He didn't sugarcoat at all.

I believe Magi Society cherry picks too much

They are not original either. For instance, their use of Magi Quads (midpoints in conjunction,opposition to midpoints) is straight out of the Hamburg School/Uranian Astrology.

Chiron is one of 60 centaur objects in our solar system. More than 10 of them have names. One of them is Chariklo named after Chiron's wife, and it is largest of them all. There is another one called Okyrhoe,and that was named after the daughter of Chiron and Chariklo. Magi Society doesn't consider any of Chiron's fellow centaurs.

They say that Sedna is the evil planet. That's ridiculous. Sedna was discovered in 2003 too. Why didn't they bother to use the other other transneptunian objects that were discovered before Sedna. Varuna,Ixion,and Quaoar were discovered before Sedna. Orcus was discovered around the same time as Sedna too. They have not mentioned the other dwarf planets, Eris,Makemake,and Haumea.

It's hard to take the system seriously.

they even act like they invented the 7th harmonic charts. The Magi 7 charts.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 25, 2009 02:28 PM         

Chiron is very prominent in my chart and I am learning to work with the energies. Chiron has been known as the 'wounded healer', with obvious themes of wounding and healing. I feel strongly that (positive) Chiron linkages are required in relationships as they help healing to take place at a very deep soul level - transformational. And yes, they can wound too. No relationship is perfect, people carry with them wounds of all types.

posted September 25, 2009 03:05 PM         

There's reference to the wounds manifesting through relationships with the opposition to Venus - being aware that our partner is a perfect mirror of everything we have yet to love about ourselves, the negatives and the positives. All this subsequently plays out in intimate relationships.

posted September 25, 2009 03:24 PM         

Oh, it also semi-sextiles True Node and Mars and sesquisquares Mercury.

posted September 25, 2009 03:38 PM         

and okay you got me ,this is another incarnation.it is a long story but i have penchant for unnamed net authorities closing my email etc..

chiron square the ascendant would indicate that both people are very acute intellectually and possibily over analysis the relationship.the trine to chiron is favorable because it indictae these critical evaluations can be implemented into the relationship versus say chiron square saturn which would imply the critical nature would detract from the relationship if not destroy it.of course i give chiron co-
rulership of capricorn and aquarius.
the sesquiquadrate to mercury shows a relationship with a strong analytic/critical bend.this can lead to incessant bickering in a negative way.with this aspect it is necessary to be upfront at all times.any questions arising about the relationship should immediately be dealt with .i have found that chiron is very affirmative to "correct and accurate" analysis but if there are any contradictions,omissions or inconsistancies,then chiron becomes very short and critical.as long as the truth is served chiron seems to be beneficient but at the slightest,i mean slightest, incongruity in logic ,chiron becomes negative.with the sesquiquadrate between mercury and chiron, any arguments usually end up with no resolution ,only distance and silence between the two.
the semisextiles are a bit harder to anticipate because they are aspects of consciousness ,by which i mean they are passive aspect but with application of will these aspects become functional.the semisextile can give one the resources associates with a conjunction.but with no intent the aspect does not seem to function on its own.the inconjunct and the semisextile ,in my experience, are the aspects most activated by focus of the will.
so mars semisextile would imply ,in a positive manifestation,an inherent sensitivity to the partners emotional issues and actions to soothe any emotional afflictions.
as to the true node,it's characteristics are variable from one person to another as there is a strong karmic factor so comments on the node should proceed only after a through analysis of the relationship ,and of both individuals separately.the afffects of the node vary so greatly from karma to karma that it is difficult to make generalizations about it.

posted September 25, 2009 05:27 PM         

hi comica

this opposition of uranus and chiron turn up a lot in charts of people interested in astrology.i think this is due to uranus's rulership of astrology and with the mythology of chiron as he was taught many thing by apollo including astrology.
it is difficult to separate the influences of chiron in this opposition,so i rely heavily on the aspect to this.if this pattern is not heavily aspected ,i don't refer to it too much.another factor is that this opposition tended to form and reform over a long period of time.i don't consider it a generations aspect like those between say neptune and pluto but i haven't applied statistics to find out if it is significant for astrologers or is just a function of the probabilty of the aspect occurring.
but with the close identification to uranus that i place on chiron,this aspect shows a intense critcal dynamic and can also indicate a strong astral/psychic presence.in addition this can give "genius" level insights if the opposition leads to awareness rather than confrontation.then onm the negative side it can show up as very irrational ,argumentative perspectives.unceasingly critical and combative.

posted September 25, 2009 06:54 PM         

neptune
hmmm well i also have saturn in the 6th which i read about in a rosecrucian astrology book.it indicated that this position of saturn makes it very difficult to be a healer.and i wanted to be a MD from very early in life.though that has not transpired,i do have very strong psychic healing powers and have channeled a few "miraclous" session.but i don't pursue the healing and have only used these energies on a few people throughout my life.that is one "mystery "of chiron/saturn,these symbols do correlate to psychic healings but most often they are abusive rather than healing when their aspects are adverse.
of course jupiter at midheaven exactly trine to the sun helps out a lot too

posted September 26, 2009 06:02 PM         

The composite aspect I noticed right off is that Chiron in Gemini is opposite Venus and Uranus (which are in exact conjunction, a conjunction we both share natally in Sag, also opp our own natal Chirons) and Mars (which is about 7 degrees away from that Ven/Uranus conjunction). On top of that, that Chiron is exactly opposite the midpoint between the Venus/Uranus and Mars. Its also in a wide trine to the Moon and trine Jupiter as well (Moon and Jup are conjunct).

Another question I had was in terms of synastry- what do you think a would a Venus/Chiron quincunx denote?

posted September 29, 2009 10:23 AM         

i dont know if you saw but on a thread of mine about SR you analysed our composite and so i thank your for that

would you help me on some kiron placements please?

quiron is often analised by magi perspective when i try to google on it,so i would very much appreciatte your take on this:

Composite
C.Kiron on 0 Gem cj C. MC.
C.Kiron trines merc/mars/sun and sextile Moon.Semisextiles NN and opose Uranus.

i guess those are really good as almost no hard aspect is made.there is a deep healing in both of us since we came together.

in my natal i have kiron in Gem 9Th,squaring my sun/Ve in 11h and opose jup/uran in 3rd and also Kiron kikx saturn.it only trines ASC and Merc. - would you say that i have a lot of wounds?

also..what would you say about a relationshiop tht has Kiron in 12th : square sun/merc/ mc and kikx saturn/pluto and semiquare NN?

posted January 16, 2010 09:43 PM         

As for Chiron opposing Uranus...I'm clueless. I guess I am very into astrology, but the more psychological part of the matter.