posted September 29, 2009 09:03 PM         

However, around the age of 35, something else happens, called the Pluto square Pluto aspect. Called the "Pluto square" by most astrologers, it's a transit that astrology takes for granted now without understanding quite as fully as it might, and this one comes with a major evolutionary shift -- it's often a time of getting a lot of personal work done, or a time of intense personal crisis. To say the least, it's a time of awakening, and of cleaning up what's left from the growth work of the Saturn return.
The simultaneous occurrence of the Saturn square and the Pluto square is a really good example of multiple transits.

In a sense, the Pluto square one of the first major life passages after full adulthood is reached at the Saturn return, and it has a fairly deep sense of ending and beginning. Remember that it's the first and usually only stressful aspect that Pluto makes to its own position, since we would not have our Pluto opposite Pluto aspect till we were well past 100 years old. (Typically, we feel the aspects on the 90-degree harmonic a lot more than the others; but that's why we have astrology -- to show us when times are good, so we can do something with them, and to point out the benefits of the stressful times as well.)

posted September 30, 2009 12:29 PM         

i had pluto square pluto AND sun (they are natally conjunct) at the same time that saturn uranus and neptune were in my 12th house. it was like being in a pressure cooker and yes i guess some secrets did get out but i have never been happier than since AFTER those transits passed...

posted September 30, 2009 05:07 PM         

of course we all lose things we need from time to time, and pluto is as good at that as anything. as i said, it often doesn't FEEL like you don't need what is lost...but if you are still here to tell the story, you DIDN:T actually NEED it. you may have been using it as a crutch, or it may have been preventing you from learning something crucial...

posted September 30, 2009 05:37 PM         

That said, it was hard. Very hard. And I don't want to hear the BS that it only takes away what you need. No offense, but it is BS. It something people say to make themselves feel better.

Like I said, it's all about the houses it hits. That's how you can tell what will most likely happen.

posted September 30, 2009 06:35 PM         

if you have a set idea of how life should be then pluto will often take away all your props.

posted September 30, 2009 06:41 PM         

Just split up with a Scorp b/f, and I was so glad I did. In the midst of the 2-week breakup, I cried for an entire day - because I had told him the TRUTH (I can't lie for any considerable amount of time) - in not so many words, how he was exhausting me - I had had enough and it couldn't go on. So I do feel MUCH calmer after that one. My take on relationships now is that I no longer have the NEED for a relationship. I don't know whether this is because it has recently been confirmed that I have fibroids, which means I can't reproduce (not that I wanted to - I am quite happy).

I have successfully got rid of all unpleasantly narcissistic individuals in my life (I was a total magnet for them). Now, I am trying to spot the red flags (bullsh*t alert) IMMEDIATELY and put up the boundaries so they know they've no chance.

posted September 30, 2009 06:46 PM         

transiting Pluto is in my 5th house and in applying square to my Pluto in Libra in 2nd with 6 minutes of arc right now.

haven't experienced anything significant yet.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 01, 2009 01:18 PM         

quote:

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That said, it was hard. Very hard. And I don't want to hear the BS that it only takes away what you need. No offense, but it is BS. It something people say to make themselves feel better.

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A round of applause for this comment - if what is taken away involves bereavement, it can be particularly inappropriate.

posted October 01, 2009 01:31 PM         

Pluto can go as as far as 17 degrees from the ecliptic.

when I was born, Pluto was at 15'44 North Latitude

Transiting Pluto is at 5'23 North Latitude right now.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 04, 2009 08:27 PM         

As many of you know, I had a very long relationship that lasted my whole adult life so far that ended a few years ago...so maybe it's not astrology, maybe it's just my recovery process.

But now TPluto is squaring my natal Pluto (at 4 degrees now), and conjunct my ASC...and my groove is back. I don't look any prettier or sexier but as of the last few weeks I am getting asked out by hot guys again, like as a teenager!

Also, everyone seems to notice me more, again, which is sooo right for a Leo. Not just hot guys, but EVERYONE seems to be more about me, me, me!!!

Ladies, do not fear this Pluto square. There is a reason it coincides with the sexual prime.

YES, I am also having to let old structures in my life crumble to dust. But it was their time to die!

posted October 04, 2009 09:58 PM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"