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Lara
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posted October 02, 2009 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have to admit that i once had a boyfriend and he flirted outrageously and was all over this other girl in front of me and i did hit the roof.

Actually, i kicked him and left the party. I was so hurt by his insensitivity. I mean he was leaning into her and was so close to her, like he was about to kiss her - and he had that LOOK!

Mostly though i've been on the receiving end of scorpio jealousy... and i find it cute if it's mild and really annoying and ridiculous if it's a major jealousy issue.

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ariescancer
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posted October 03, 2009 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariescancer     Edit/Delete Message
I have Sun, Venus and Mars in Aries, Mercury in Taurus and Cancer Rising I am very jealus I think that the person that I love is like mine, my property what it is mine is mine but I will not say nothing it will stay inside me, I do not like feeling like this, but that's the way I am, I also like if my lover is a little jealus about me, I guess I am very human.

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T
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posted October 03, 2009 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
I guess I'm a martian then.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 03, 2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
T, isn't your Venus in Gemini? What's your moon in?
I've found several examples of Venus Geminis that don't seem to get jealous.
Lucky! Man, I wish I didn't get jealous. It sucks.

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lionseye***
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posted October 03, 2009 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message
I am aware...when it comes to relationships.Hyper observant...because I don't just trust people at their word. I'd like to, and at times I do, but mostly I am suspicious of other people's intentions because I've leared that most people are out for themselves. You really can't trust men. And you have to probe deeply before you trust a female. There are good people out there..but dude...they are rare and hard to find.

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Mannequin
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posted October 03, 2009 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannequin     Edit/Delete Message
i have venus in Scorpio conjunct Pluto. i'm extremely jealous, i literally feel there's a volcano exploding inside me. i get hell bent on revenge, wanting pay back. pretty psychotic.

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GypseeWind
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posted October 04, 2009 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Dont get me wrong im not saying ive never felt jealously, but it was in extreme cases where the woman was coming to my house and trying to take my husband! That is fear based jealousy, and yes I can understand that one quite clearly.

If i was with someone at a party and they were leaning in quite close to someone else i would get ****** more then jealous cause that seems like pure disprespect toward me, and a form of game playing....ewww.

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stopandstare
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posted October 04, 2009 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stopandstare     Edit/Delete Message
i have sun in cancer, moon gemini, venus gemini, mars taurus and rising leo.

i admit i get jealous and possessive as well. towards family members. towards guys. but it's only if those people were closest to me/most important to me. everyday people, i could care less. yes i've had feelings of abandonment or that i would be replaced so that's what triggers those negative feelings.

in terms of acting out on it or displaying it, i can act alarmingly loof. how i've downsized my feelings of jealousy or possessiveness or what have you is that throughout the years i've become very detached with people in general. it's as if i've gone in the opposite direction of what i used to be.

rather than always being there and feeling like i need people, it's like i've spread myself out to a whole bunch of people and sort of vanished. i keep myself busy with my own things and just don't get attached or involved fully with people anymore. i'm going through an extreme emotional avoidance, i only care about me phase right now. it's like i worked hard to be really open and available and now i've closed up and become private again.

i find it's only when i focus on me and have tunnel vision that i don't feel any jealousy or possessivness. also, i try to be logical and remind myself that i can only do what i can do and control what i do on my end.

and yes i do find it oddly strange when people say they don't get jealous. for me i get jealous only when i really care for someone or place a lot of value on them.

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Lucia23
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posted October 04, 2009 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I had a brief involvement with an Aqua who was just crazy, crazy jealous. He was both jealous and envious of my friends. He would be really catty and mean about how good-looking all my guy friends were (come ON, I'm a Leo. Of course my entourage is pretty, but I have a good heart.)

After we broke up and I got back with my ex, Aquaman got obsessed with me and spent a couple of years devising elaborate plots to split us up.

I don't know anything about his chart beyond the Aqua sun. I know an Aqua girl (Cancer Moon, Cap Venus, Scorp rising, EXACT Mars-Saturn conjunction in Scorpio in her 1st house) who is very, very jealous...but the whole rest of her chart would account for that.

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jane
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posted October 04, 2009 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
I'm split into pieces on this issue.

~Sometimes the idea of my man having sex with another woman he's attracted to turns me on.
~Sometimes I think even the reality of that would turn me on.
~Then at other times, he could flirt with someone just a little too much when I'm not in the mood for that sh1t, and I say in a rage, "I don't want you anymore. I'm going to find someone else." Embarrassingly, that was verbatim!

So I don't know.

My Sag Sun and Moon-Uranus square are probably what contribute to me seeing value in sexual and emotional freedom. Then many other parts prefer strict monogamy. (Like my Leo Moon, Sco Asc, and Pluto on my Sun/Moon & Venus/Juno mp's.) Combined, they make me prefer monogamy while generally having a laid-back attitude toward flirting. I know I'm loyal, so I can trust myself to appreciate the bond I have with various people without feeling a need to make it sexual.

Overall, I'm not that jealous. I recognize that we fall in various levels of love (and lust) with other people all the time. I don't resent that or wish that life was different in that way. I do, however, need to know that I'm number one with my partner, and that he's number one with me. The attraction (in any way) to others isn't a threat to that bond, unless it reaches as deep and is as compulsive. In that case, I'd say, go live your life and explore that, but we're not a couple anymore. Anything short of that doesn't bother me. (Usually. )

My SO is a Taurus. He's generally not jealous in an unreasonable way. In the beginning of our relationship, jealousy on both our parts caused some heavy fights, but we've progressed. In our Comp we have a 2nd house Sun, and I think developing that sense of security and trust has been a purpose of our relationship. I can say with certainty though that he would never, ever be into the idea of me being with another guy.

He's more concerned than I am with the "right way" to behave. It's more about respect for him. For example, it's not right to spend a big chunk of time at a social gathering talking one-on-one with a man I'm just meeting, that sort of stuff. While to me, it's no big deal. As long as I'm secure in what we have, I don't mind that from him. I kinda even like it, because I like the opportunity it brings for becoming infatuated with one another again. But he doesn't look at it like that.

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jane
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posted October 04, 2009 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
nevermind

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 05, 2009 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
"Sometimes the idea of my man having sex with another woman he's attracted to turns me on.
~Sometimes I think even the reality of that would turn me on."

Oh boy, Jane.
I can't believe it, but I've had this feeling before with an ex.
Granted, it was someone I was with for a long time. And I knew he would've never suggested it. And if he had on his own, I would've gone ballistic
Maybe it is a Moon/Uranus thing. I prize my freedom completely - but I am also loyal (almost to the point of stupidity sometimes). I expect the loyalty in return as well.
If I were with someone a long time and we had a good relationship and trust between us, I'd consider stretching the rules because I'd know the relationship is strong enough. As long as it was my suggestion, of course

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swirl-kitt
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posted October 05, 2009 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
I hate showing it but I get very very jealous that my stomach hurts

But I'm starting to learn that, except for married couples, people are free to like other people, and flirt with other people.. And that I would like to do this as well !

I'm so un-evolved that I even get jealous BEFORE I start dating with someone ! It's because even before dating, I'll already have made up my mind about 'serving' this person and my level of dedication is so high that in my mind there is no way my partner will be left feeling dissatisfied after we get together.

But I usually have more than 1 person on my mind too, or that I would like to flirt with, so.. I try reminding me of that.

I really need to stop thinking that people can actually read my thoughts and stop worrying about why they don't feel the vibes I'm sending.

btw I have cancer asc, scorpio sun, aries moon, virgo mars, libra venus

I think scorpio + virgo + aries is a bad combo for jealousy

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pire
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posted October 05, 2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
swirl-kitt i can totally relate to everything u said. i have cancer asc, aqua sun, libra moon/pluto, mars jupiter saturn in virgo, MC mercury and venus in pisces

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jane
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posted October 05, 2009 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
MVM -

I think in addition to Uranus, it's our Leo and Neptune influences. (I remember you said you have Neptune in the 7th and Leo on the 5th. I have a Leo Moon trine Neptune.)

I used to be extremely sexually possessive. I even resented that he'd had sex before me. Not that I wanted him to be a virgin, I just couldn't stand the thought of him wanting someone else sexually, and being with her. I don't know why I was even torturing myself with those thoughts, but I did.

It's only this year that I've felt a real shift in that regard. And I think it has to do with the Neptune transit (opp my Moon) I've been experiencing for a while.

I think that transit has been strengthening my own natal Moon-Neptune trine. My Moon is in Leo and I associate loving someone with indulging them. I want to make his life as full and pleasurable as possible. I like seeing him happy. And then there's some satisfaction involved with giving him that, tempting me to say in my best Joaquin, "Am I not merciful?!" But reality holds this idealism in check.

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posted October 05, 2009 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's more than insecurity. I've known drop dead gorgous men and woman who were so jealous and possesive it was unbelievable. My 1st husband could have been a gq model back in the day, he was probably one of the most jealous people I have ever known. He was even jealous of my private thoughts about someone else. He not only wanted to own my body, But own my mind as well. Yes I know this sounds like a bad scorpio affliction. But he was a double gem!
The condition came from the fact that he had a gem sun conj a cancer(2nd worse to scorp)moon and they both were tightly square pluto. He was a gem rising, so the sun moon conj was in his 1st. venus in taurus and mars in leo I believe.

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jane
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posted October 05, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
I think jealousy comes when we're insecure about whether our partner fits our personal picture of someone in love and committed. We all have different standards for how we expect someone to love us, so we'll have different standards for which behaviors violate that. Those behaviors threaten our security - our certainty that we have that love we want - so they make us jealous.

I know someone who can't even stand her boyfriends connecting on a friendship level with other people, males and females. Those connections make her jealous because she has an idealistic and possessive definition of love: love is when a partner loves her and only her during every moment of his life. She can handle him giving out moderate doses of affection, but there's a certain threshold of happiness that others can't trigger in him or she has a jealous freak out. That's a perspective I can't relate to. I only get jealous when it's a strong sexual attraction, not an attraction of other sorts.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted October 05, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
being or not being jealous is about your level of maturity not your sun sign.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted October 05, 2009 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Jane, that Scorpio stuff is also going to be the end of me - I checked my Juno/Venus midpoint and it's also in Scorpio...and so is my Ceres for good measure ...like you, I would bug out entirely at that Hello Lover.

I like your way of putting it though - 'Am I not merciful?' LOL. Being all magnanimous and indulgent is something which would work for me.... and yeah, I could totally relate to the whole thing with him even being sexual with another. The thought of it drives me bonkers. It's very much about Me being the FIRST for every mind-blowing experience... oh so unrealistic but well, there it is
Oddly, I get the same thing with the man I am seeing now. He seems just as jealous as I am, but like me I feel he tries to hide it. Even my suggesting a restaurant I'd been to a few weeks ago was met with a very abrupt (uncharacteristically frosty), Oh, when did you go? Oh really. WHO did you go with.
And this pained, almost constipated look on his face if the subject of an ex shows up. Yeah, he's got Neptune on the 7th as well as Scorpio on the 7th house cusp like me, plus all this Taurus. Idealism and possessiveness..it's a hobby! It's an obsession!

Still, it's somewhat a relief to be with someone else who 'gets' it and gets the same feelings.

EDIT: I'm also put in the mind of my ex, who always denied that he was at all jealous. We'd be out at a bar and a male would talk to both of us and on the drive home my ex would rage all the way home, bashing his fist at the rear view mirror, calling the man we were both talking to every name in the book because he felt the guy was checking me out. But ask him about jealousy and he would deny it vehemently. So odd. So screwed up. So scary.

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jane
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posted October 06, 2009 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
MVM

...like you, I would bug out entirely at that Hello Lover.

Oh no! Now I'm getting paranoid again! Time to call in my Saturn to calm my Mercury down.

Being all magnanimous and indulgent is something which would work for me

You sure you're not a Sag/Leo too?

It's very much about Me being the FIRST for every mind-blowing experience... oh so unrealistic but well, there it is

Haha, I know what you mean. I need to believe I'm the best he's ever had. He can even lie about it, I don't mind, as long as he puts on a convincing show. Yeah, I mind. But really, I have chilled out so much on this issue. I feel like a different person. Strange how much transits can change us.

Still, it's somewhat a relief to be with someone else who 'gets' it and gets the same feelings.

Also, I think that bond makes it easier to see how you're needlessly torturing yourself with jealousy. Seeing my SO be tormented with jealousy when I knew he had no reason to be, made me more determined to let go of those emotions in myself as well. My compassion for him increased my compassion for myself. But like I said, my outlook didn't fundamentally change until the Neptune transit. Intellectually I knew it would be right to be less possessive, but actually being that way hasn't felt right and natural until now. I do still get jealous sometimes, but it's not nearly on the same level.

Yes, rage without any self-awareness is terrifying. I guess he convinced himself it was just about the other guy not respecting his territory, and didn't look at his own fear of you being attracted to someone else.

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posted October 09, 2009 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nigel     Edit/Delete Message
Mannequin - I have Venus in Scorpio conjunct Pluto too, and I'm the same way. I never admit my jealous feelings though... too much pride (Leo Asc).

When's your birthday? Mine's Dec 15, 1986. Wonder if we were born around the same time.

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