posted October 04, 2009 11:19 AM         

yes the thing about david icke, i keep putting him away and then something like this happens that so jibes with what he has been saying - all the while people are calling him crazy. i too have my suspicions about why he is allowed to continue? is it because he's wrong or because he is conditioning us to be "readied" for these things to actually happen?

and YES on the atlantis thing. last night as i fell asleep i thought - right on schedule, here we are again...the high tech society, the polarized factions within it, and POSSIBLY the beginning of(or lead-up to)a new "intergalactic war" (wars of the gods before the last deluge?)

posted October 04, 2009 12:33 PM         

Two Whistleblowers Independently Report Teleporting to Mars and Meeting Martian Extraterrestrials

September 9, 1:27 PM

posted October 04, 2009 01:37 PM         

only the big ones that include:
Eris,Makemake,Haumea - dwarf planets along with Pluto and Ceres

Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion - dwarf planet candidates

Eris in 21'31 Aries
sextile Moon - '11 separating

Sedna in 21'45 Taurus R
square Neptune - 2'06 applying
sextile Uranus - 2'01 applying
sextile Varuna - '07 separating
sextile MC - 2'57 applying
semisextile Moon - '03 applying
contraparallel Sun- '09 applying
contraparallel Ceres - '58 applying
contraparallel Asc - '27 separating

Moon,Eris,and Sedna are in 12th harmonic triangle because Moon sextiles Eris,and Sedna semisextiles both

The Moon/Eris midpoint is in 21'37 Taurus

Therefore, Sedna is conjunct Moon/Eris midpoint with 8 minutes of arc

talk about "far out" controversy involving the Moon!

wonder if it could lead to some disaster that involves the influence of great bodies of water with both Sedna and Varuna being objects named after deities that rules the oceans. they were also linked to death. Varuna judged souls in Indian mythology, and Sedna ruled the Inuit Underworld.

there is more

Haumea in 16'00 Libra
conjunct Sun with 17 minutes of arc separating
conjunct Asc with 1'55 orb separating
trine Jupiter with 1'10 orb applying
square MC with 2'47 orb separating
contraparallel Pluto - '17 applying

Haumea is a transneptunian dwarf planet named after the Hawaiian fertility/creation goddess whose children born from fragments from her body. The actual transneptunian object has fragments from its body that became its moons as well as solar-orbiting transneptunian objects. It used to be big as Pluto, but it suffered a collision which resulted in much of its ice layer broken off.
It's very unique in that it's an extremely rapid spinning object, looking like a football that's been kicked. That due to the violent collision from another large transneptunian object.

Quaoar in 18'31 Sagittarius
sextile Sun - 2'12 applying
sextile Asc - '35 applying
sextile Jupiter - 1'19 separating
quincunx MC - '19 separating

Quaoar is named after the Native American creation deity of the Tongva tribe in California

Varuna in 21'53 Cancer
trine Uranus - 1'53 applying
square Eris - '22 separating
sextile Sedna - '07 separating
sextile Venus - 1'27 separating
contraparallel Moon - '26 applying

Varuna is named after the Indian God of the Oceans. I mentioned that earlier.

It's interesting that Sun is in applying parallel to Sedna,and Moon is an applying contraparallel to Varuna. Both are ocean deities with connections to the dead.

Orcus in 1'32 Virgo
trine Pluto - '40 applying
semisquare Sun - '13 applying
contraparallel Sedna - '35 applying

Orcus is named after the Etruscan God of the Underworld who punished people who broke their oaths.

I also checked direct midpoint pictures involving Eris and Sedna in Solar Fire.
direct midpoints can be just as important as straight up major aspects.

Sedna
conjunct Moon/Eris - '08 separating
conjunct Uranus/MC - '28 separating

Eris
conjunct Moon/Chiron - '04 separating
oppose Sun/Ceres - '54 applying

MC
conjunct Sun/Eris - '06 applying
conjunct Asc/Eris - '55 applying

Uranus conjunct Node/Eris - '20 applying

Mars oppose Node - '10
conjunct Mercury/Sedna - '53 separating

Node
conjunct Neptune/Pluto - '53 applying

Venus
oppose Uranus - '33 applying
oppose Neptune/Eris - '31 separating
oppose Node/Sedna - '53 applying

a lot of Eris direct midpoints

highly controversial indeed!
a lot of crap being stirred up
a lot of debate over it.

Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 05, 2009 07:13 AM         

There are a million possibilities but we dont know enough to really judge if its right or wrong. I doubt they would do this if it would impact the earth in such a bad way..

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posted October 06, 2009 07:41 AM         

I still think that everything that is happening, will happen and has happened is a reflection of who we are as a human race.

Its as Donald Walsch(or rather "God")said in "Conversations with God";

" It is only through OUR relationships with other people, places and events that WE can even exist in the universe.

WE only are what WE are relative to another that is not.

Once WE clearly understand this, once WE deeply grasp it, then WE intuitively bless each and every experience, all human encounter and ,especially, personal relationships for WE see them as constructive, in the highest sense.

WE see that they can be used, must be used, are being used to construct WHO WE ALLY ARE

That construction can be a magnificent creation of OUR own conscious design, or a strictly happenstance configuration.

WE can choose to be a person who has resulted simply from what has happened, or from what WE'VE chosen to be and do about what has happened.

It is in the latter form that creation of self becomes conscious.It is in the second experience that THE HUMAN RACE becomes realized. "

I think that we have forgotten who we are ,and far worse, we have forgotten our connection to each other and the universe.

If we can't even agree to get along on this planet, agree to give each and every single one of us dignity(poor or rich), how do we expect our relationship with the universe to be any different?

posted October 06, 2009 08:11 AM         

and YES on the atlantis thing. last night as i fell asleep i thought - right on schedule, here we are again...the high tech society, the polarized factions within it, and POSSIBLY the beginning of(or lead-up to)a new "intergalactic war" (wars of the gods before the last deluge?)

where's IQ??
>>
You have already said everything accurately, I was thinking "What did Katatonic miss?".

He is a conditioning agent as is Mr. Stewart Swerdlow of www.expansions.com ; and both do have the best intentions for humanity but they end up creating more fear in the top 2% of us who are neither part of the illuminati nor are dumb masses.

There is a collection of Advanced Beings in the OORT Cloud, known as the Kuipers Belt Aliens. They smashed the Hadron Collider. They are the ones sending near-death asteroid objects to Earth. I dont think the advanced ETs want another Atlantis type situation, they have seen enough. Yet, Universal Law prevents direct interference.
So they are sending wake up calls to the masses to evolve and start thinking for themselves.

posted October 06, 2009 10:00 AM         

Who wouldve ever though id be sitting here thinking we might one day go to war with aliens lmao..

I want to continue a peaceful life on earth with everybody

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posted October 06, 2009 12:06 PM         

a cockroach has peaceful intent. that doesn't mean you want them in your house!

posted October 06, 2009 12:33 PM         

HD~ Thanks for posting the sun.com link

I had no idea:
"The planned October 9, 2009 bombing of the moon by a NASA orbiter that will bomb the moon with a 2-ton kinetic weapon to create a 5 mile wide deep crater as an alleged water-seeking and lunar colonization experiment, is contrary to space law prohibiting environmental modification of celestial bodies. The NASA moon bombing, a component of the LCROSS mission, may also trigger conflict with known extraterrestrial civilizations on the moon as reported on the moon in witnessed statements by U.S. astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, and in witnessed statements to NSA (National Security Agency) photos and documents regarding an extraterrestrial base on the dark side of the moon.

Is there an "Alien Base" on the Moon? More and more people are coming forward with stories that might prove this is true. Rumors say that there is an Alien Moon Base on the far side of the moon, the side we never see from Earth.
Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? It does seem like a better and easier idea than a floating space station with no access to any raw materials or supplies? According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!

Sound far fetched? Milton Cooper, a Naval Intelligence Officer[1] tells us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as "Luna," that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller "flying saucers".
http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html

there is video of Buzz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfvhdmhQy4

posted October 06, 2009 07:12 PM         

i'm more concerned about what they're doing to my chart ruler ;-(((
and aliens are mining there ? .. that is disgusting .. beyond words ..

.. Russian sues Nasa for comet upset ..
" An amateur astrologist, she believes that any variation in the orbit or the composition of the Tempel comet will certainly affect her own fate. .. So Ms Marina's claims to be experiencing "a moral trauma" - which only a payment of $300m (252m euros; £170m) can put right. "
~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4649987.stm ~

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as for the much talked of mr.ike ..
what david ike sais .. doesn't and will never count with me ..
due to one article he wrote ..
rumour .. hearsay .. lewd assumption .. ingnorance on his part or blatant lying ..
racial propaganda presented as probable 'fact' ..
together with his sneering sarcastic attitude ..
and based on a now debunked 1870's racial theories ..

he makes money off peoples fear's ..
that's his only 'smarts' ..
saw the opportunity in the internet ..
as far as i'm concerned he's a narcissistic manipulator ..
and 'nowt more ..

posted October 06, 2009 11:10 PM         

either an hoax cause it didnt make it to the headlines in france

or it's true, and the dirty illuminati & reptilians are trying to p_ss the mooners off so they retaliate and we feel attacked and we support the war effort; remember something?

if they were bad they would not be living on the dark side of the moon, but in the white house, 10 downing street or at l'elysee;

also there isnt a hollywood film with a black president who save the world from aliens?

but then it could also be partly the 2 options:

-p_ssing off the mooners who are still quiet
-testing the reactions in the public; hence the info in anglosaxon countries and nada in other languages; so as to avoid panic in the entire world pop. somethin that big is usually covered in french news even if nasa is US

and fear i can feel here, dark side is very attractive young padawan

to me the mooners, not other types of aliens like reptilians though, are goods, provided they do exist: we in LL know astrology and how bad can the moon be, cancer attacking others? nah!
and if they wanted to invade us, or were threatening to life, they would have done it before we start having nuclear weapons, no?

posted October 06, 2009 11:28 PM         

I am not afraid

I even joked around about the Robotech/Macross stuff.

All of us will die sooner or later.

my belief in the divine,reincarnation,afterlife factors into my lack of fear of my own death.

Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 07, 2009 01:40 AM         

There trying to blast it out of the moon.
By colliding another object into it,

Not attacking some alien colony on the moon.

Althought, there are unnatural feature on the moon that do sugest a colony.

Of course NASA knows a lot more about the moon and mars then what they tell us

Part of me is a beliver the other is a skiptic.

Assuming alien are true, which part of me keeps a somewhat open mind about. There comming from USO's not from the moon.

posted October 07, 2009 08:34 PM         

If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject. The U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, requires that “ The moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military manoeuvres on celestial bodies shall be forbidden.” 98 nations have ratified and 125 nations have signed the U.N. Outer Space Treaty.""

This is a hostile act. This starts the WAR Ladies and Gentlemen.