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letram
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posted October 18, 2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree astra,

has anyone seen my ears? yep that was one of the bad ones!

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comica23
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posted October 18, 2009 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol when I was young, I looked like a sick kid as I was too slim and not really cute. ;_; It was when I was looking at my past photos that I've noticed how I was the perfect image of an emo kid lol~ But well, guess that I look fine now. X3

But well.. LOA (it's Law of Attraction right?). I have to agree with it, and the old "shine inside = shine outside". When you're beautiful, happy and confident inside, you'll eventually shine outside too. Ever wondered why some people who actually are average only, but then mysteriously looks beautiful and attractive? This is the secret. X3

About the photos.. well, they would never be something that we can really trust to see if someone is beautiful or not. They can turn goddesses into ghosts with bad lights/angle/technique, as well as turn ghosts into goddesses with the right technique lol. So unless you're a complete goddess that would look beautiful in just any angle or light, don't worry about badly taken photos. ^_~

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Astra
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posted October 18, 2009 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was little, my ears looked just like the ears the elves had in Lord of the Rings. My ears somehow look relatively normal now, though they are very slightly pointy.

I was also skinny as a rail through my teen years no matter how much I ate, but when I was 20, I developed some actual curves and now I have an hourglass body. Appearances really do change as we age.

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oneruledbymars
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posted October 19, 2009 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astra, they say that pointy ears point to a lifeline connection with the Sirius Star Sytem.

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Astra
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posted October 19, 2009 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? What's the Sirius Star System?

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oneruledbymars
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posted October 19, 2009 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you should read up on Sirius.
It is the Star System that the layout of the Egyptian Pyramids mimic, the Egyptian Sphinx points towards it and the Heliacal rising of it, which heralded the flooding of the Nile River, a fertile time of year for the Egyptians. Our 365 day calendar actually is still in line with this. Every New Years we celebrate the Heliacal rising of Sirius as it appears that day right at Sunrise every 365 days from the viewpoint of the Sphinx.
It is believed that it is from the Sirius Star System that the Egpytians recieved there technology.

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posted October 19, 2009 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astra, i don't know about being a knock out... haha... but i could knock out a pretty big guy with a flying side kick to the head, hahaha

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posted October 20, 2009 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm late on this thread and I don't know if this has been said, but Adonis conjunct Sun.

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posted October 21, 2009 07:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is true...my bf has his sun cj Adonis!

and i feel that he is th emost handsome man ive ever met!

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posted October 21, 2009 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice topic. My view is that Astrology is the ONLY factor that helps bring objectivity to the subjective topic of beauty. Astrological Placements will help a native be perceived as beautiful by a vast majority of men irrespective of the girl's own thoughts or her genetics or race or size etc etc etc.

For feminine beauty in a chart, I look for
1. Sun conj/trine/sextile Venus
2. Strong Libra or Strong 11th House with some extra strength in Taurus
3. Asc, Sun or Moon conjunct tightly to Asteroid ISIS, JUNO, PSYCHE, APHRODITE, NEPHTHYS or SITA
4. Saturn NOT squaring, NOT quincunx nor opp Venus or Mars
5. Strong Sun-Mars or Sun-Pluto links for the super heated sizzle.


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posted February 15, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus_aspected     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, I think it depends on your Mars & Moon on what you find attractive. I have Mars in Cancer and I find men with Venus in Capricorn attractive (Christian Bale, James Dean, Paul Newman, Brandon Boyd, etc.). I also have moon in aries so to me, attractive women are those who have fire signs moons (Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek, Nicole Kidman, etc.)

I have Venus trine Ascendant. I am not pretty but some think I'm beautiful & intriguing. I think it's because of my Venus trine Neptune. Neptune in Sag 9th house & Venus in Leo 5th.

Most people I personally know who have plenty of admirers usually have this aspects in their charts. Maybe because of the romantic & sweet quality to this combination. The guys are gentlemen & the girls are like princesses waiting to be rescued.

I also thank my Moon (12th House) & Juno (1st House) conj. Ascendant (Aries - Sag Decan).

When Juno is in the first house, it is more of cuteness. I think I am not pretty, only cute. I like this in my chart. (allow me to brag).

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posted February 15, 2011 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus_aspected     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, I think it depends on your Mars & Moon on what you find attractive. I have Mars in Cancer and I find men with Venus in Capricorn attractive (Christian Bale, James Dean, Paul Newman, Brandon Boyd, etc.). I also have moon in aries so to me, attractive women are those who have fire signs moons (Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek, Nicole Kidman, etc.)

I have Venus trine Ascendant. I am not pretty but some think I'm beautiful & intriguing. I think it's because of my Venus trine Neptune. Neptune in Sag 9th house & Venus in Leo 5th.

Most people I personally know who have plenty of admirers usually have this aspects in their charts. Maybe because of the romantic & sweet quality to this combination. The guys are gentlemen & the girls are like princesses waiting to be rescued.

I also thank my Moon (12th House) & Juno (1st House) conj. Ascendant (Aries - Sag Decan).

When Juno is in the first house, it is more of cuteness. I think I am not pretty, only cute. I like this in my chart. (allow me to brag).

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posted February 15, 2011 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus_aspected     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, I think it depends on your Mars & Moon on what you find attractive. I have Mars in Cancer and I find men with Venus in Capricorn attractive (Christian Bale, James Dean, Paul Newman, Brandon Boyd, etc.). I also have moon in aries so to me, attractive women are those who have fire signs moons (Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek, Nicole Kidman, etc.)

I have Venus trine Ascendant. I am not pretty but some think I'm beautiful & intriguing. I think it's because of my Venus trine Neptune. Neptune in Sag 9th house & Venus in Leo 5th.

Most people I personally know who have plenty of admirers usually have this aspects in their charts. Maybe because of the romantic & sweet quality to this combination.

I also thank my Moon (12th House) & Juno (1st House) conj. Ascendant (Aries - Sag Decan).

When Juno is in the first house, it is more of cuteness. I think I am not pretty, only cute. I like this in my chart. (allow me to brag).

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posted February 15, 2011 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus_aspected     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, I think it depends on your Mars & Moon on what you find attractive. I have Mars in Cancer and I find men with Venus in Capricorn attractive (Christian Bale, James Dean, Paul Newman, Brandon Boyd, etc.). I also have moon in aries so to me, attractive women are those who have fire signs moons (Angelina Jolie, Salma Hayek, Nicole Kidman, etc.)

I have Venus trine Ascendant. I am not pretty but some think I'm beautiful & intriguing. I think it's because of my Venus trine Neptune. Neptune in Sag 9th house & Venus in Leo 5th.

Most people I personally know who have plenty of admirers usually have this aspects in their charts. Maybe because of the romantic & sweet quality to this combination.

I also thank my Moon (12th House) & Juno (1st House) conj. Ascendant (Aries - Sag Decan).

When Juno is in the first house, it is more of cuteness. I think I am not pretty, only cute. I like this in my chart. (allow me to brag).

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posted February 15, 2011 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think AC psicis or libra, but it may be if AC is hard aspect to something not so beautiful, but which signs are not beautiful? i dont know.

i consider myself beautiful, but that is me. no super beautiful though. i have sun-mars-venus in cancer conjunction with AC taurus.my AC sextile jupiter. that is all.

I have seen a lot of piscis AC beautiful.

i wonder which aspects are not beautiful to watch out, any idea?

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posted February 15, 2011 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Nice topic. My view is that Astrology is the ONLY factor that helps bring objectivity to the subjective topic of beauty. Astrological Placements will help a native be perceived as beautiful by a vast majority of men irrespective of the girl's own thoughts or her genetics or race or size etc etc etc.

For feminine beauty in a chart, I look for
1. Sun conj/trine/sextile Venus
2. Strong Libra or Strong 11th House with some extra strength in Taurus
3. Asc, Sun or Moon conjunct tightly to Asteroid ISIS, JUNO, PSYCHE, APHRODITE, NEPHTHYS or SITA
4. Saturn NOT squaring, NOT quincunx nor opp Venus or Mars
5. Strong Sun-Mars or Sun-Pluto links for the super heated sizzle.


i know u wrote for the feminine side, but i know two people with venus in hard aspect to saturn (both men) and they are handsome. well one has his moon in piscis and venus in 7th and saturn in 1st. he has this saturnian look, but i find it attractive. the other way, dont know the AC, but he is atractive

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posted February 15, 2011 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Anicia:

The two most beautiful girls I know have their 12th house Suns conjunct their Libra Ascendants.

my sister has this. sun in libra in 12 conjunct her libra AC and she is definetely very attractive

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posted February 15, 2011 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd check the heliocentric nodes of Venus

The Venus Nodes are the points where the plane of the orbit of Venus cuts the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. Viewed heliocentrically the Nodes form an axis where the North or Ascending Node is exactly opposite the South or Descending node.

the heliocentric nodes of all objects move up about 1 degree per century.
They are associated with the collective.

Aspects to the heliocentric Venus Nodes are more significant than aspects to Venus itself.

if Venus is associated with beauty, then the Heliocentric Venus Nodes are associated with the collective beauty


I'd check to see if any of the personal planets,points,angles aspect the Heliocentric Venus Nodes.
This goes especially for conjunction of a Venus Node (North or South) that involves the Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven

t's easy to calculate the Nodes on the ephemeral page
http://www.true-node.com/eph1/


1. type in the name

2. enter your birthdate

you don't even have to enter your time of birth nor coordinates of your place of birth because the heliocentric nodes move ultra-slow. There wouldn't be any significant difference. It would be like a second

3. change Geocentric to Heliocentric

4. check North Node (you don't even have check South Node because South Node is exactly opposite the North Node....if you see your North Node placement, you will automatically know your South Node placement..it's the same exact degrees,minutes, but opposite sign)

5. click get Ephemeris


it will then give you another page with the heliocentric nodes calculated


it's a very simple, user-friendly tool
That's why it's one of my favorite tools.
It is the only tool that gives calculations for nodes of any minor planet as long as it has a name or a minor planet number

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posted February 15, 2011 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I just have saturn not doing any bad aspects to mars and venus and sun sextile mars according to iq's criteria

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posted February 15, 2011 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ephemeral page http://www.true-node.com/eph1/

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posted February 15, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen many venus on asc fail. Just charm... I am interested to see saturn in libra right on asc. Or pisces asc with sun,venus conjunction. I read somewhere that for beauty should look to gem,vir,aqua... Human signs-beauty.

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posted February 15, 2011 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus Conjunct Asc, All of my life I have been told I was beautiful. Sometimes I can see it and then sometimes I can't. We can be our worst critics. But also I really do believe it is genetic. My family is good looking men and women.

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posted February 15, 2011 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I genuinely don't believe that you can determine physical beauty based on astrological aspects, only psychological and behavioral predictions work as far as I'm concerned. Charm as well, definitely. I know a guy who has all of the "ideal" astrological placements you can imagine, including Venus exactly on his MC, but he is considered technically "ugly" by almost all standards with the exception of the fact he's extremely intelligent, funny, and overall the loveliest human being you can imagine.

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posted February 15, 2011 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
Lol I just have saturn not doing any bad aspects to mars and venus and sun sextile mars according to iq's criteria

For iQ's criteria I have one of the ugly aspects, Venus square Saturn, believe it or not there are those that consider me cute, some beautiful, some sexy, some ugly.
I just find it hard to believe that this can be discerned through the chart unless you're basing it on personal preference.

You know how Capricorn is supposed to be the ugliest sign, with their hooked nose and down turned mouth, etc., I actually find Saturnian looks physically/sexually attractive. But I do have Mars conj Saturn, and I love intense eyes, for that I point to my Venus/Pluto. Just for example.

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posted February 15, 2011 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I've seen many venus on asc fail. Just charm... I am interested to see saturn in libra right on asc. Or pisces asc with sun,venus conjunction. I read somewhere that for beauty should look to gem,vir,aqua... Human signs-beauty.

I think overall Gemini and Aquarius influenced people are very attractive, but they both play in to my Dsc, so that's hard to discern.
I do try to be objective
I love the look of Air dominated people.

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