posted October 22, 2009 02:49 PM            

Atlantis 27°30 Gemini

Interesting enough this sextiles my Sun 26 Aries and Horus 26 Taurus, and opposes the Galatic center....Wonder what type of creative energies you were using in Atlantis?
*popping hands*
Naughty girl! lol

"It is in a grand Air trine/kite with Mercury/Aqua/27°
Pluto/Libra/29°
Neptune/Sag/29°"

And your Talent asteroid as well I think, so for sure you were up to no good. lol My Mercury and Talent aspect this as well at a 29 degree conjunction in Pisces. And my Jupiter is at 29 Cancer.

"Loosely conjunct N.N 1° Cancer and sextile Asc 24°.
Inconjuncts BML (1°orb)."

But lessons from this help you on your life path this time and the Ascendant shows how you share it with the world as well as attract others with like frequency....You also learned alot about the shadow aspect of yourself in re-Membering your lifeline in Atlantis.

"Guess I'm out on the bleachers also, for sticking my fingers in places they didn't belong once upon a time.

(Argh! All these great topics, and I have no time to engage fully I miss you all"

Lol. I think you are still on those bleachers in some lifelines! lol Just teasin...
Its ok love, your busy with other things, as we all are....we understand but its good to hear from you every now and then!

xoxo

posted October 22, 2009 02:49 PM              

we all can share our points of view but in the right places

this is the astrology of awakening,that is why IQ is saying that it is btter for us to only discuss astrological placements.

there is no judgements here or disrespect - infact...we cannot disrespect anyone if the person doenst create space for us to disrespect.

I feel that scientific or not,something can be a Truth,if he feel it in our hearts.i personally dont care what Science proofs or not :P i always let myself be guided by my intuition.

i respect all scientists and they are doing what their soul choosed to do in this life,but i choosed to follow my inner voice - and mine says that each one of us have all the answers within,not "without".

a dear new friend of mine - Nayon - would explain this a lot better than me...i wish he would come here and share his vision too,as it is very clear that he is an Atlantean.

Glaucus

chill out!IQ is just saying that it would be better not to post so many long texts,cause they arent showing astrological samples of atlantis recallers...if can post that on the other foruns specific to that kind of information.

it gets hard for us to see the big picture of the thread itself,with all that text,see?just that!

IQ

posted October 22, 2009 03:19 PM            

Date: 7th Sept 1931

1. True Node 5.36 Aries
Sabian: "A Square, With One Of Its Sides Brightly Illumined". Is it a reference to the Tetrahedral [4 equally sided triangles]
or to a shining Crystal Cube?
TN is conjunct VARUNA, the Vedic god of Water, and quincunx Neptune, Roman god of water. Water water everywhere... and Atlantis had to sink...

2. ATLANTIS 27.54 Pisces
exact opp MERLIN in 27.5 Virgo
and trine KARMA 26.3 Scorpio.

It had to be in a water sign
And discovered a year after Pluto. That itself is a major sign. And the Asteroid became retrograde on that day, opposition to Merlin indicates the Magical Epoch's challenges. One more karmic placement cements this thought.

Sabian of 27 Pisces:
"A Fertile Garden Under The Full Moon Reveals A Variety Of Full-Grown Vegetables"
Fully developed humanity ? Humans ready to re awaken to Atlantis?
Sabian of KARMA:
"A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets"
The war theme of Ancient Atlantis?

3. Sun conj Venus 13 Virgo
Sabian: An Aristocratic Family Tree
The powerful Bloodlines of Atlantis reawakened?

4. Mars exactly opp DNA and quinucnx Chiron.
A drive for genetic adjustments to healing knowledge? A clue to the Hybridization expereiments of Ancient Atlantis?

5. At Noon, the Moon in 9 Cancer. That is where ATLANTIS is transiting currently
Sabian: "A Large Diamond In The First Stages Of The Cutting Process".
Just amazing, goes well with the Sabian of Atlantis and of the True Node.

6. The karmic placement of Saturn, Saturn being conjunct MAGION!!!! 16.2 Capricorn.
And who opposes this exactly?
Asteroid ANGEL in 16.3 Cancer.
Fallen Angelic Selves from Atlantis paying the karmic debts from this point onwards?
See the Sabian of ANGEL:
"The Unfoldment Of Multilevel Potentialities Issuing From An Original Germ"
The Multidimensional potential and knowledge of Atlantis awakened that day.

7. Other exact 1 degree orb aspects, quite impressive:
SPHINX conj PALLAS
SPIRIT sq WISDOM
SPIRIT sextile ANGEL
SPIRIT trine Saturn
KARMA sextile LUST
LUST sextile ATLANTIS
DISCOVERY quincunx Uranus
VALENTINE conj Pluto
SIVA cojn Mercury trine VESTA
GIZA sextile TALENT

Interestingly, Sabian of Spirit: "Volcanic Eruption"....

All very meanigful of the basic recalled messages of Ancient Atlantis.

So the Asteroid did get discovered at the most appropriate time.

P.S:
Diandra, I had already analyzed your and John's placements including Atlantis I think when we discussed the ancient egyptian lifeline? They are too precise to be coincidental.

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posted October 22, 2009 04:48 PM            

I don`t want this to become an argument about Glaucus` participation here.

All I am defending myself against is that someone tells me what to say or what to think. I like to have my own opinion and speak it, listen to other`s and respect their opinion and I donīt see why there can`t be place for both, even in this thread.

What use could these things be that Glaucus posted?
Well, I think for some undecided readers they could help to form an opinion or to read more into it, or even see that some of the scientist`s theories aren`t all that great after all.

Anyway, in one thing Glaucus is right, I AM interested in Atlantis. And you know that, too. And now after having seen what you posted about the discovery date, I start understanding why.

True Node is conjunct my IC, Aura and Magion. Also trines my ASC, Angel and Atlantis and Mars.
SN is exactly conjunct my Draco Karma.

Atlantis is exact trine my Valentine, and of course conjuncts my Draco Atlantis, ASC, Angel etc.

Karma is conjunct my Valentine and Mesopotamia and Hyperborea.

Sun and Venus exact conjunct my Persephone.

Saturn and Magion (very very telling) opposing my Saturn exact.
Angel conjunct my Saturn exact, also quinkunx my Moon and trines my juno and Siva.

So not only the asteroid of its discovery is more than telling, I am amazed at the synastry aspects it makes to my chart, and probably to all of your charts, too.

posted October 22, 2009 05:33 PM            

ok - I've skipped onto page 5 and 6 and will go back - page 5 is where my post is about my atlantis placement and I didn't want to fall behind in case someone wrote a response to something I said. OK - now we are taking. oneruledbymars - have you been shown the valley from the mountain? I mean - do you recall being with a group of people, all of you wearing some sort of cloke of sorts and each of you being shown by some entity (aka not human) the valley from the mountain?

Glaucus - I get the flying like Superman bit. A few of us who remember the cabin in the woods bit (which I'm unsure was even Atlantis) - recall flying. I, on the other hand, don't recall me flying but I did see others flying. As a matter of fact - one of them saved my life even though I didn't think that way then. Also - without mentioning our experiences at different times - some of those who recalled flying actually saved people and yes, I too believe that dreamworlds are ways for many of us to connect. I believe I can tell the difference between a dream carrying coded messages from the subconscious and a connection. Two different things.

Actually - I'm not 100% sure who posted it but yes, there is some really really long texts which - I'm going to be honest, I'm not going to read all of HOWEVER someone did post a recall of a prominent individual - some of what they said was similar to what I've seen.

posted October 22, 2009 06:42 PM            

It is in 7'10 Libra in 2nd
sextile Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 4th
using whole sign house system.

I also checked the nodes

Geocentric North Spirit Node in 9'05 Pisces in 7th
square Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 4th

Geocentric South Spirit Node in 0'40 Libra in 2nd
conjunct Pluto in 0'51 Libra in 2nd

Heliocentric Spirit Nodes in 23'14 Pisces/Virgo in 7th and 1st

posted October 22, 2009 07:51 PM            

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posted October 22, 2009 09:40 PM            

Draco ATLANTIS 12'00" Cancer

Draco ATLANTIS conjunct Sirius

Draco SPHINX 25'56" Sagittarius.

Natal SPHINX conjunct Formalhaut
Draco SPHINX conjunct Galactic Center

Draco ANGEL 21'29" Taurus

21-22 deg Taurus
"White Dove Flying Over Troubled Waters"

Troubled Waters: The Flood? White Dove Flying: An Angel?

Draco ANGEL trine Draco SPIRIT. Together they trine natal ATLANTIS!!

Draco GIZA trine natal ATLANTIS

Draco OSIRIS conjunct natal Venus

Draco HORUS opp natal Sun

Draco DNA trine natal Venus

Also,

posted October 22, 2009 10:11 PM            

as to anna hayes/ashayana dean, i know someone who is involved in the keylontic stuff and i have read some of the lit from hayes which i consider to be gobbledygook for the easily mesmerized. she has been involved in some seriously crooked shenanigans and i don't trust her for a minute. drunvalo has warned people that she has gone off on a tangent, i know, i saw it on his site.

perhaps another thread for this because i would love to know what you think is not specific about his stuff! i like his lack of ego and his disclaimers that he is not THE authority on this stuff. he is relating what he has learned.

posted October 23, 2009 04:22 AM            

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posted October 23, 2009 04:28 AM            

I know of someone whose Atlantis is also on 21 Cancer, conj. his Vertex and widely conj. his SN (4 degree).

Interestingly his Atlantis is exact conjunct my Eros and Vertex and also conjunct my Destinn.
On top of that his Atlantis is on the absolute precise solstice point of my Atlantis (we also have a solstice point connection of Atlantis to ASC, which is exact if I recall rightly), which results in the composite Atlantis being on 00° Libra, which I found always interesting.

posted October 23, 2009 04:29 AM            

wow! am here we go with the spiritual condescension,snobbery. Something that I expected from you just like I expected from venusdeindia

since you referred to the stuff that I posted as crap, then it's only fair that I refer to yourself as crap!

stick that in your spiritual "oh...it's your karma, face!

in other words, take your spirtual holier than thou self crap and shove it up your butt!

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posted October 23, 2009 04:33 AM            

Look again at Pluto conj VALENTINE in 21 Cancer on the discovery date. That degree is very important for ex-Atlantean Survivors who had lost their twin flames in that period.
Sabian: "A Young Woman Awaiting A Sailboat"

posted October 23, 2009 04:47 AM            

Here is a major synchronicity.
Asteroid Atlantis discovered in 1931.
Dolores born in 1931

In this book, many regressions accurately recall Atlantis. However, one regression has Dolores discussing another topic with the regressee and suddenly the Higher Self claims that both Dolores and the regressee were similar healers in the "Temples of Atlantis" [This apparently shocked Dolores] using mental techniques on Crystals.
This is a 100% confirmation of what we know about the Atlantean Civilization.

Dolores has KAALI conj Atlantis Discovery Sun and Venus. Asteroid Kaali does help in knowing past life recalls.
Her Draconic Sun conjuncts Atlantis Discovery True Node exact.
In my assessment, Dolores has a late Leo Ascendant [Hospitals round off birth times, rounded off birth time gives 0.03 degree Virgo Ascendant], hence a clear Atlantis Past Lifeline.

posted October 23, 2009 04:54 AM            

I know of someone whose Atlantis is also on 21 Cancer, conj. his Vertex and widely conj. his SN (4 degree).

Interestingly his Atlantis is exact conjunct my Eros and Vertex and also conjunct my Destinn.
On top of that his Atlantis is on the absolute precise solstice point of my Atlantis (we also have a solstice point connection of Atlantis to ASC, which is exact if I recall rightly), which results in the composite Atlantis being on 00° Libra, which I found always interesting.
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Anything on the 0 Libra is interesting these days because of the Super Galactic Centre effect.

posted October 23, 2009 04:57 AM            

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posted October 23, 2009 05:04 AM            

No...I wasn't being Superman in my dreams. I was just being me being aware that I was dreaming,and so I controlled the dream in a way that I wanted to. I like flying. I like action and adventure. It has nothing to do with Superman. I liked watching action movies/shows growing up. Of course,I liked superheroes. I liked King Arthur and the Knights of Round Table as well as anything that had to do with knights,warriors fighting with swords. I liked the deities and heroes of Greek and Norse mythology. I also just like to travel without any boundaries. I like flying high into the sky and flying among the stars. I liked Astronomy and Mythology since I was a kid.

It had nothing to do with programming. Therefore,there is NO "could have been programming at all...and then it could have everything to do with it". Don't project your ideas that I don't share onto me. I know what and how I was dreaming and what influenced in my dreaming. You wouldn't want somebody accusing you of being paranoid schizophrenic with the alien,Atlantean,and God knows what else programming,conspiracy stuff? I don't think that you would like that one bit. Therefore, please refrain from projecting your programming beliefs onto me just because I disagree with your butt.

REPEAT: It has nothing do with programming.
I am not going to say it again.
I already made that clear the last time I posted...heck the first time that I posted. I was using a simile.

"Glaucus - I get the flying like Superman bit. A few of us who remember the cabin in the woods bit (which I'm unsure was even Atlantis) - recall flying. I, on the other hand, don't recall me flying but I did see others flying. As a matter of fact - one of them saved my life even though I didn't think that way then. Also - without mentioning our experiences at different times - some of those who recalled flying actually saved people and yes, I too believe that dreamworlds are ways for many of us to connect. I believe I can tell the difference between a dream carrying coded messages from the subconscious and a connection. Two different things."

ummm........I was just talking about lucid dreaming which is knowing that you're dreaming while your dreaming. Because you know that it's a dream, you know that the laws of nature don't apply in the dreamworld. Therefore you can do whatever you want like flying.

that's what I was talking about.

a movie that goes over lucid dreaming is the Matrix movies with Keanu Reeves. those movies are based on the concepts of lucid dreaming. In the movie, the Matrix was a computer generated dreamworld. People were slaves to the machines and they plugged into the Matrix. Some people broke away the system. Because of their knowledge that the Matrix was a dreamworld,they could do things that others in the dreamworld couldn't do. That went especially for Neo, he's the one that could do the flying, but only after he was killed and resurrected.

any ways...the Matrix movies were based on lucid dreaming and eastern philosophy.

I always had lucid dreams that involved flying, telling people in my dream that I am dreaming,moving objects with my mind,and other things as well as doing experiments like putting my hands through walls to see if I am dreaming or not.

I also had books on lucid dreaming.
One of the books was by Stephen DeBerg who actually scientifically proved that lucid dreaming exists. He created a lucid dreaming institute too. http://www.lucidity.com/

futhermore lucid dreaming is used in buddhist spiritual practices called Tibetan Dream Yoga. I have a book on that too. http://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Yogas-Dream-Sleep-ebook/dp/B001U88ZSA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256288335&sr=8-2

A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. When the dreamer is lucid, he or she can actively participate in and often manipulate the imaginary experiences in the dream environment. Lucid dreams can seem extremely real and vivid depending on a person's level of self-awareness during the lucid dream.[1]

The term was coined by the Dutch Psychiatrist and writer Frederik van Eeden (1860-1932).[2]

A lucid dream can begin in one of three ways. A dream-initiated lucid dream (DILD) starts as a normal dream, and the dreamer eventually concludes that he or she is dreaming, while a wake-initiated lucid dream (WILD) occurs when the dreamer goes from a normal waking state directly into a dream state with no apparent lapse in consciousness. A mnemonic-initiated lucid dream (MILD) can happen when the dreamer intentionally affirms to himself or herself that he or she will become lucid during the upcoming sleep. Reaching lucidity can sometimes occur due to dream-signs or spontaneously upon remembrance.

Lucid dreaming has been researched scientifically, and its existence is well established.[3][4] Scientists such as Allan Hobson, with his neurophysiological approach to dream research, have helped to push the understanding of lucid dreaming into a less speculative realm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream

Raymond