posted October 24, 2009 06:44 PM         

So today, at the train station, I asked, "Am I supposed to be an Actor?" and here is the chart:

I'm actually quite frightened, as i've been determined to be an actor since the fourth grade... but i don't want to fight the universe if being an actor isn't what i'm supposed to be.

There are mainly harsh aspects to the asteroid Actor, including: an opposition to the Sun (which is in the 10th house), an opposition to Mercury (which is in the 9th, conjunct the Midheaven), a square to the North Node (life path), and inconjunction to Saturn (in the 9th). It is also retrograde, in the 4th house and at 0 degrees Taurus. This scares me, as i'm afraid that the answer this is pointing to is not what i want to hear!

posted October 24, 2009 11:03 PM         

It's nice to know that i haven't been working for nothing!

posted October 25, 2009 10:00 AM         

Horary Astrology Links:
This seems to be a good starting point for reading Horary Charts: http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary_astrology.htm

This is another link, it also has a piece on Void of Course Moon in Horary: http://www.astrologyschool.com/horarypt1.html http://www.astrologyschool.com/horarypt1.html

posted October 25, 2009 10:22 AM         

First things first dont fear your bad aspects. Look at it this way, this will be an experience of growth for you, "negative" aspects demand it of us.
Your actor Asteroid is aspecting:
Sun
Mercury/MC
NN
Saturn

Look at these and what does it tell you?

That you have some life lessons to learn in an acting Career. You will find yourself facing some greater fears, I sense that you, yourself are doubting whether or not you should be an actor and as IQ brought out the Universe will bring you doubts, its a mirror of your Subconscious. So stop that doubting, and dont be scared of anything, its your world you do what you want! lol

Seriously though, I say go for it, and watch for clues all around you. You intuition will serve you well. Acting is a talent that is developed, though you maybe born with that "it" factor, you are in the end a product, and you have to get people to buy your product. So have confidence in yourself, and project it, people will believe you if you believe in yourself..

posted October 25, 2009 11:22 AM         

I am considered a professional Actor/Model now, and I am proud of that. It has taken me many years of hard work to stand before you and say that with my head up. And I am learning as we speak what it takes to be a good one.

Meta said:

"I'm actually quite frightened, as i've been determined to be an actor since the fourth grade... but i don't want to fight the universe if being an actor isn't what i'm supposed to be.

There are mainly harsh aspects to the asteroid Actor, including: an opposition to the Sun (which is in the 10th house), an opposition to Mercury (which is in the 9th, conjunct the Midheaven), a square to the North Node (life path), and inconjunction to Saturn (in the 9th). It is also retrograde, in the 4th house and at 0 degrees Taurus. This scares me, as i'm afraid that the answer this is pointing to is not what i want to hear!

Thoughts? Advice?"

I did not say one thing about her being Famous or Rich...I simply said those things because I notice that this is what it takes to get you in the place to practice your Art without inhibitions...
This business is very cut throat that is cliche but sadly true, and people can be harsh, mean even.............

An Aware, fit, grounded, and balanced individual has a better chance, and this makes them a better product.
I sense this somewhat degrading idea of being a "product" is what you are refering to.......let me put it to you this way.........we do 4-5 auditions a week, we get our jobs based on these auditions, in these auditions we are products, and if you believe in that character/yourself the "product" that will be on display in the film, as it were, then the Casting Directors, the Agents and the Subsequent Managers if you get good will believe in you, and "buy" you, as it were.

Meta is fully able to do this chart wise. So I think she should fear not. If I came off as an IQ wannabe guru, then I take that as a compliment, I think highly of him, so thanks.
But never did I mean to ensue that she was doing this to be famous or rich, her motivations are her motivations and not for me to judge. So I apologize.

I also apologize about "projecting my issues", perhaps you can help me with that, as thats not the type of person I want to be percieved as, at all.
How do I do that in your opinion?
And how can I stop?

Meta I wish you much success hon. Dont be skurt! lol

posted October 25, 2009 11:52 AM         

i didn't address it to u; but whenever i'm not too bored to open one of yours or IQ's self-aggrandizment threads, i sadly see how much u need IQ's approval;

i have a hard time reading his comment on sabian symbols, too simple and literal. sabian symbols are more complex. only the person involved can truly grasp its meaning in a given situation, so his analysis makes me laugh. especially his apparent conviction.

ok sorry for the thread hijack; if u or IQ want to respond, u can do it on my thread in KNOW TWO ARE ALIKE, or start another thread on LLC2 or even complain to a mod.

i'd like to remain on topic here, as my first post here was implying.

posted October 25, 2009 03:04 PM         

How long have you been in the acting business? Can you tell me a little about what it's really like?

The other day i was in the costume shop and the designer said, "Let me guess, you're an actress? All the pretty young girls are actresses. That won't last long. You need to be able to act, sing, and dance. You need to have connections in the business, or else you'll be waiting tables the rest of your life..."

Later that evening i was told about switching my major to Film. So that's why i was questioning if the universe was trying to tell me something.

I doubt a lot. I feel like the clock is ticking, and i need to audition and be a part of every project that comes into view! But at the same time... i have this problem where I put so much of myself into a project that it feels like i'm eroding chunks of myself away in each rehearsal and performance. I'm left exhausted. And hopeless.

posted October 25, 2009 03:12 PM         

I've wasted so much time just not being able to decide what career path I was going to choose that I could have spent trying different things.

6 months, a year ? Just change your major if you have to, and I'm sure if people see your efforts, later on when you really decide, you can become either.

posted October 25, 2009 04:41 PM         

But--if your passion is at something that many, many people want to succeed at, then there will always be naysayers and detractors.

Also, people often give "pretty young girls" rotten advice...they are jealous. I wish I'd had the balls to ignore them the way I do now that I'm a pretty old(er) girl, lol.

Whatever any chart says, the thing to do is to GO FOR IT and push yourself to your edges (even past your edges) and don't let yourself, or anyone else, stop you. If you are meant to be an actor, this is how to deepen your practice of your craft. If you aren't, the passion and intensity with which you throw yourself into something that might be a crapshoot will give you superhero skills that will transfer directly into whatever you ARE supposed to do.

posted October 25, 2009 08:30 PM         

I go through constant bouts of determination and skepticism. All the actors that I admire say that even still- no matter how much success they attain- they still feel the burden of actor-anxiety. It's a lifelong battle, and realize that. I think i'm just questioning whether i'll be able to sustain a lifetime of beating myself up. I acknowledge that i'm a sensitive, perfectionist person and i just fear for myself- as melodramatic as that sounds!

It's a lesson i will have to learn. Growth isn't supposed to be easy, and i need to accept that.

How long did it take you to come to your conclusion? What were others saying you couldn't do, if you don't mind me asking?

Peri,

posted October 26, 2009 10:03 AM         

"How long have you been in the acting business? Can you tell me a little about what it's really like?"

I have been studying acting since 2006, modeling off and on since I was 17 though. In 2006 though I started an Meisner Acting Class, at LA's Acting Center.... My instructor landed a gig on Army Wives, in the Carolinas, where I am from, so I didnt mind coming here at all. Long story short, I just finished it in May 2009.. Around Feb or this year I landed an Agent, who has been a huge help. I had this thing in my head, that I would be "there" as soon as I landed an agent. As you know Meisner is some pretty heavy duty training...but you have to do something call "pay your dues"...Your Agent will sign you if you:

1. Have a great look
2. Have proper training
3. Have some experience, (you know the part that some gives because they found you in the mall), lol pure luck.

But in this buisness luck is preparation meeting opportunity...You have to audition, and audition, and auditon until you just dont give a **** anymore....they want you to have a great look, but they dont want you to look or act like you know it...I always wear a plain T-shirt and a casual pair of jeans and some sneakers in the "acting world", unless I am auditioning for a role that requires my look...They seem to respect it more.. they see you as multifaceted that way....My advice to you is home your auditioning technique, get really good and comfortable with it, and I guarantee that you will eventually be able to be that character.
"Meta as if she was......" ...and when you believe that you are, everyone will, they will have no choice, you will be in character until they do, thats how it works...
Does this help...

Can you see though where on the other side it looks like this big success story, when it really was just a lot of hard work and believing in yourself. I know I was meant to do this, no chart can tell me any different it can only reinforce it, so the squares/oppositions, they just fuel me because I know that overcoming them gives me even more personal power.
In fact I never even looked at my Actor asteroid until a thread at the end of last year when Redstar and I were talking about it.

That is why Tameem said that, you must use your mind energy in this business. Everyone believes in the LOA, they all love the book called the Secret. My acting coach has it on a disc, I saw it in her house on her night stand one day when we were visiting and she took us on a tour of her home. I realized that she listens to it at night before she goes to bed. I never confirmed this, but Im pretty sure. She also made us read the book the "4 Agreements"....
They are all about mind over matter.
Ultimately you wield your destiny hon, clearly its on your lifepath, so have at it.

"The other day i was in the costume shop and the designer said, "Let me guess, you're an actress? All the pretty young girls are actresses. That won't last long. You need to be able to act, sing, and dance. You need to have connections in the business, or else you'll be waiting tables the rest of your life...
Later that evening i was told about switching my major to Film. So that's why i was questioning if the universe was trying to tell me something."

Or they could be people that have been placed in your life to hinder you from doing what you came to do......The Universe always wants to know how bad you want it.....These people could be controllers, triggering something in your Matrix to lower your vibration into negative thoughts. Do you see it is all how you look at it? I have heard things similiar to this, "your too old", "its harder for a black guy", "you'll never make on the East Coast"...I never listened to one bit of it...Have you ever thought that those people were in your shoes once and didnt have the energy to stick with it, or the looks that you have and so the opportunity never met there preparation, or they never prepared as thoroughly as you did....so many variables go into those bitter comments.....when I analyze them psychically....I just smile and say thanks, when people think you agree with them, they shut up usually....there Ego just wants you to acknowlege they are right...simple as that...make them think you agree and they shut up..... and then visually while they are talking or as I walk off, I ball the Energy of the comment up before it even reaches me , and I throw it back at them with all my Psychic strength, and I put the thought behind it of "dont project your issues on to me"...."I will do this, God as my witness I will be an actor"....and I usually walk away with a smile, because I know that by winning these small battles I am winning larger ones, and so step by step life has seemed to put the opportunities there...I landed my first paying role, which has turned into a recurring role on a new Television Series that just recently got picked up (so much stuff doesnt, this came as a huge surprise, I have only told a select few people about it, I believe peoples negative thoughts can ruin things somehow) but at any rate now I have 4 agents in 3 states, and 2 non paying roles that ended up being big deals in the Independent Film area, so its all coming together....I started back modeling and now they seem to be working hand in hand....
But do you see where I willed it to happen, and the Universe answered because its part of my lifepath?
I dont know where I get the energy to travel all over like I do, but I do and I love every minute of it, even the sucky parts....Ive even learned to love the "Hurry up and wait" part, lol .

"I doubt a lot. I feel like the clock is ticking, and i need to audition and be a part of every project that comes into view! But at the same time... i have this problem where I put so much of myself into a project that it feels like i'm eroding chunks of myself away in each rehearsal and performance. I'm left exhausted. And hopeless."

You must not be giving back to yourself then hon...You must find a way to love yourself more than you love other peoples opinions of you, however that translates for you...everyday you must do something that is strictly for you... exercise, take a warm bath, eat healthy food, read a book, tell peole "no"...use your chart to find your weakness and make them strong....this helps you recharge.
IE:
I have a Sag Moon conj Neptune.
And I have a Virgo Ascendant.
And I have a Virgo NN....and I have a Gemini MC and Sag IC...a Pisces DC, Venus and Mercury....do you see all that mutable junk going on?
I have to set boundaries, and I have to tell people no, or I end up exhausted, I learned that the hard way....But you will be surprised, when you tell people no, and that you will do it when you find the time, and then you actually do, do it....they look at you like "Wow", this persons awesome they made time for me....so wierd how people think when they are Unaware, but hey its life and we have to learn how to make it work for us, I only share my methods with you, you will have different ways, even as your chart as different from mine... , and I to will hopefully learn from you. Thats whats its all about, helping each other.

"So tell me, is this how it's always going to be? Do you feel this, or is it something that i need to deal with personally?"

Its truly going to be what you make it...You will always have someone telling you no... and in your case that seems to be you...Go deep Meta find out why you are telling yourself "No"...when you do you will require no one to tell you "Yes"

Pire:
I understand where you are coming from Pire and I accept your apology.

I am sorry too, that you see my threads or Tameems as "self aggrandized", I speak for myself when I say I am only giving freely back what is given to me.
I choose to help people with my creative energy, and I see nothing wrong with it.

I value Tameems opinion like I value everyones. He is like a brother and a colleague to me, and I respect him as such as well.... he has many gifts and I acknowledge that....our connection goes deeper than you think.. If this comes off as groveling then that is your perception.

But do know this Pire, I need no ones approval but my own. Dont mistake my kindness for weakness.

posted October 26, 2009 10:30 AM         

If i was wherever you are right now, i'd kiss you!

You're too wise. You're too generous, and genuine, and all of those positive adjectives!

I know that everything that you are telling me right now is true-- that's it's what YOU make it, that it's up to YOU; only YOU can ruin your chances-- because i'm constantly telling other doubters (like myself) the SAME THING!

When i look at other acting students, or i go see school productions i wonder, "How on earth did this person land this role?" It never struck me until quite recently that you don't have to be talented to make it in this business. It IS about your look, and your vibe. If you fit what they're looking for, sometimes talent becomes secondary. That's been a hard lesson to learn.

But nevertheless, i can feel myself growing. Every time i'm en route to an audition i can feel every part of my body and brain and psyche screeching, "Turn aroundddd!!!! I don't WANNAAAA!!!" But i do it anyways. And like you said, it will get easier with time.

You give me hope. I mean that in all sincerity.

I want to congratulate you on your success. People don't realize the work and struggle that actors go through, and i know it has been no slice of cake for you. But you've come out on top anyways, and you're still rising. Kudos, my friend.

posted October 26, 2009 12:31 PM         

don't think about it - do it

posted October 26, 2009 01:37 PM         

I am excited to be on this path with people like you and others, seems like this Universe has chosen us to be more than Shamans and healers...where this path is going awaits to be seen.

Whatever I can do to help you let me know...

Much luck pretty lady.... xoxo

I must share something with you.

You wrote:
"You give me hope. I mean that in all sincerity."
That brought tears to my eyes...you see in bringing you hope I bring it to myself...and I have lived many lives up to this one without it. And my life is a mirror of that...

I friggin love LL!

xoxo