posted October 26, 2009 04:58 PM         

(heres the man.. well apparently thats what 'he' is.)

"Researchers at the School of Psychiatry of St. Andrew’s University in Scotland made a computer drawing of a perfect man’s face thought to be irresistible to most women. The face is a composite image made up of the photographs of 12 students who consented to the use of their pictures for the benefit of science. Thirty four female students in their early twenties rated the attractiveness of each face on a scale of 1 to 7. The final composite was made by proportionally mixing features of all 12 photos.

The final composite stands out by its pronounced femininity. The modern woman does not find attractive neither facial hair nor a strong chin on a man’s face. She does not seem to like any other features traditionally associated with a “real macho man.” The study coordinator Tony Little: “An opinion poll involving females who took part in the experiment shows that women associate a slightly effeminate image of a man with such traits as willingness to help, honesty, an emotional temper and love for children. The clearly apparent masculine characteristics of appearance give the modern woman a fright these days, they seem to attract her less than in the past. At the same time, a woman would also like to see some typically male features in her chosen one because a woman still wants a man who would dominate her to some extent. "
http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/80712-0/

so, whats your opinion of the composite? does he look irresistible?

[u]lol, oh yes, now the astrology part,[/u]

yeh it is a made up face, but do you think this face presents any 'typical' features of any of the signs?

according to the research, the description of the 'perfect man' personality sounds kind of Arien, Cancerien, and Virgo. maybe Sagittarian or Scorpionic? emotional temper sounded kind of like fire moon, maybe aries moon or a mars aspect to the moon?

the face to me i can't tell, what do you think?

p.s. this was 2006,

posted October 26, 2009 05:05 PM         

I like the upper part of his face; it is kinda cute and nice, but not really drives me insane. lol

I don`t really like his mouth though, and I definitely do not like this rounded chin.
I usually seem to be attracted to slightly effeminate features in a masculine face myself (maybe they seem non-threatening? I don`t know. Not that I have ever been threatened by a man), but the chin has to be a bit more pronounced or edgy for me, I don`t know.

It is all too balanced. And where are the stubbles`? A man needs to have stubbles.

posted October 26, 2009 05:15 PM         

also what type of women are in the study?
what's their ethnic,racial backgrounds?
a lot of times that can be a factor.

of course, people have varying attraction factors.

I have slightly effeminate,young features,and I wear facial to hair to offset that.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 26, 2009 05:17 PM         

majority at least must have been white in the research lol or the selection of women, favored white most.

posted October 26, 2009 05:19 PM         

Seriously this looks like the neighbor kid, if he had a hat on backwards and was riding a bike.

The face is too round and babyish.
The nose is too perfect and fem. I like a nose that looks like it has been knocked around a few times.

His eyebrows creep me out. They arch weird and aren't full enough.

Overall, he just isn't bony enough, if you know what I mean, and yucky on the hairdo.

I mean we are being superficial here, and it isn't a real person, so we can dis him all we want right?

posted October 26, 2009 05:57 PM         

The photo is a computer image, which is why it looks so weird.

posted October 26, 2009 06:13 PM         

that make sense, feminine men are more likely to have less testosterone and higher estrogen levels. That's true in my case, confirmed by hormonal blood tests. It reflects in my very long index fingers which indicates more exposure to estrogen in my mother's womb.

It is said that men with high testosterone are more likely to cheat too.

Men who cheat show elevated testosterone levels
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Men in committed relationships tend to have lower testosterone levels than those who are single, according to a study in the October issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 91, No. 4). However, men in relationships who report cheating on their partners—or even who just say they’d consider it—have levels about as high as single men, notes Steve Gangestad, PhD, one of the study’s authors and a psychology professor at the University of New Mexico.

“They are really in some sense not taken off the market,” says Gangestad. “They are still interested in other women, and they are still high in testosterone. They are still engaged in the mating effort.”

Past research suggests that elevated testosterone aids men in their efforts to attract mates by increasing their confidence and aggressiveness toward competing men, he adds.

Gangestad and his colleagues collected the saliva of 176 undergraduate students and then asked them to complete a questionnaire assessing their current relationship status and attitudes toward cheating. Some of the students were asked whether they’d consider cheating and others were asked whether they’d cheated in the past.

The single men, including people who would consider cheating and those who said they never would, had equally high levels of testosterone. The men in relationships who would not consider cheating, however, showed low testosterone compared with the relationship-bound men who would.

The results suggest that testosterone levels change in response to social conditions, and that the hormone helps men meet the perceived challenges of their environment, Gangestad says. While elevated testosterone levels help men find mates, lower levels may promote affiliative and nurturing behavior, he notes. In fact, lower levels of the androgen are associated with increased responsiveness to infant cries, past research shows.

“Testosterone facilitates competition with other men for partners...but it may interfere with other kinds of tasks, such as parenting,” Gangestad notes.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec06/testosterone.html

Men with high testosterone levels
are more likely to have multiple wives, according to a new study
.

They also give less attention to their kids.

High testosterone levels have been linked to increased sexual activity, infidelity and marital conflict. However, after men become fathers, their bodies typically pump out less of the hormone.

"This is good for us, so we can adapt to social challenges very quickly," New Scientist quoted Alexandra Alvergne, an anthropologist
at the University of Montpellier, France, and the University of Sheffield, UK, who led the new study, as saying.

In the study involving rural Senegalese villagers, the researchers underscored testosterone's critical role in a mating and parenting.

Lead researcher Alexandra Alvergne, an anthropologist at the University of Montpellier, France, and the University of Sheffield, UK measured testosterone levels in 21 polygynous fathers as well as 32 monogamous dads and 28 unmarried men without children.

The researchers also asked the men's wives about the time and money their husband spent to the family. http://www.medindia.net/news/High-Testosterone-Levels-Linked-Wit h-Increased-Sexual-Activity-in-Men-57190-1.htm

The findings revealed that no matter how many wives they had, fathers had lower testosterone levels than single men, on average.

It also showed that among fathers, those with more testosterone tended to invest less time in their wives and children.

And polygynous men under the age of 50 produced more testosterone than monogamous men, on average.

According to Alvergne, older men with more than one wife made less of the sex hormone than other men. While older men may make less testosterone, they typically enjoy more prestige in their villages, which could make it easier to find multiple wives.

The study appears in journal Hormones and Behavior. http://www.medindia.net/news/High-Testosterone-Levels-Linked-Wit h-Increased-Sexual-Activity-in-Men-57190-2.htm

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 26, 2009 06:39 PM         

I wonder if we can tell femininity through astrological placements if we can't tell whether a native is female or male by looking at a chart. This guy though looks like he has a bit of Cancer, Libra and Virgo. But that's just a bad guess.

posted October 26, 2009 06:39 PM         

but I have facial hair in those photos

I look different with no facial hair. You have to see me without facial hair. I don't feel like shaving my face for anybody.

that's why I said in my first post:
"I have slightly effeminate,young features,and I wear facial hair to offset that."

also if people look at me up close, people see my long eyelashes, people can see me as more feminine. Some have remarked on that in the past.

one guy in the navy told me that I look like fag and few others did too. I have mistaken for gay a lot. I have been called "fag","faggot" numerous times. That was because of both my looks and my voice.

I feel that does have to do with my high estrogen levels.

It's also reflected in my chart
Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio
Moon in Pisces
Ascendant in Virgo

also my Sun trine Moon in watersigns with 2'10 orb
Sun conjunct true Black Moon Lilith with 22 minutes of arc.

all of my big 3 (Sun,Moon,Ascendant) are in feminine signs.

longer hair also tends to give me a more feminine look, especially with curly hair which softens the appearance of the face.
I have been wearing my hair very short compared to my younger years. In the navy,hair couldn't be long any way. It had to be tapered.

any ways...I guess it really depends on one's perception of how a person looks.

like some people think that I look Hispanic,some people that I look black/mexican, some people think that I am black/white,some people think that I look just black,some people think that I am East Indian,some people think that I an Arab. some people think that I am Pacific Islander.

any ways...I think that I know what I am talking about because I lived my life and had the experiences in my life that had to do with people thinking that I am feminine both in looks and voice and have been mistaken for gay numerous times because of that.

any ways...I don't think that there is wrong with a male having feminine looks any way. They have high estrogen levels. That's not a crime. It's just part of nature. They can't help it. If some females don't like them for it, then it's no big deal. Those females aren't for them any way. They are better off with females that think that feminine guys are okay.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 26, 2009 06:58 PM         

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted October 26, 2009 07:22 PM         

well, looks like i failed miserably in my attempt to provoke astrology discussion, sorry people!

Raymond, the long eyelashes from what im aware of, is a good feature if anything on a man.

i got long eyelashes too.

you don't look very feminine to me in my opinion, although i definitely think your new 'look' suites you very well!

you don't look that young to me, i have a baby face

posted October 26, 2009 07:24 PM         

the animus - a female's ideal image of male that they might project onto a male.

Jungian Psychology

posted October 26, 2009 07:29 PM         

(or even stubble i think?)