posted October 30, 2009 08:44 AM            

I have been reluctant to add the transits in the mix but I see that they are needed.

posted October 30, 2009 09:39 AM            

I am not really obsessed with transits. But I think they may be needed as "timers".
Though progressions are fleeting, they can last about a year or two or depending on the planets even longer than that.
And the transits would narrow down the frame, in which a relationship could get triggered.
Like the natals are the car; the progressions are the running motor, but the transits are the moments when we really start driving.

"his, as you mention as well, may
be the cause of those really good relationships that are fleeting... those that are for a season. "
Yes, that is what I mean. And that would explain why some seemingly great relationships fall apart after a few years.
And it might even be an explanation for those attraction, that you feel very strongly at the outset, but then some months down the road, you just wonder: What did I ever see in him?

" Maybe, the relationships with great synastry that do not begin are due to a lack of that 'starter', that push in the right direction which a progressed chart could offer."
Yes, exactly!

"It is a fleeting window of opportunity for the natals( individual or synastry) to play out"
Have you read Westran`s book on progressed synastry? He calls it "window of opportunity" too.

"as transits can't be applied on natal/natal (synastry) comparisons because there is no point in doing so."
I don`t agree; I think transits to natal synastry are very important.
Transits will show us what planet will be pulled to the centre of attention.
When Transit Saturn squared my Sun and Mercury, I was very much confronted with Sun and Mercury-issues.
It was like Suna nd Mercury became BIGGER in my personality, while others retreated a bit (like Mars for example), they came to the forefront, and I was faced with them, wanting it or not.

Now for a potential partner other planets might be pulled to the forefront, and they wills uddenly become very aware of a certain planet in their charts.

If the same Transiting planet now triggers / aspects planets in my chart as well as in his chart, it means that for each of us the triggered planet "wakes up". If these planets are connected through a synastric aspect, this synastry aspect will come to the forefront, too.

It doesn`t really affect the relationship per se, but it does show what lies dormant (the non triggered synastric aspects) and what becomes more obvious and central (the triggered ones).

Example:
His SN: 16 Aquarius
My Moon: 17 Aquarius
My pr Venus and Mercury and Antivertex: 17 Aquarius

Transiting Neptune 17 Aquarius.

You can bet it had an effect!
It was an unexpected, yet not completely surprising (as I had dreamed of it before) meeting, that had really "dreamlike" quality, very surreal.

There are other aspects in our synastry chart, but the placement of Transiting Neptune and theprogressed planets indicated, that in that special moment this conjunction of Moon and SN was the focal point.
(coincidentally - or not- Composite Mercury and Atlantis are on 16 and 17 Aquarius, too).

Another focal point was:

Transit Saturn: 5°31 Virgo
Transit SN: 5°45 Virgo
Transit NN: 5°45 Pisces

his Pluto: 7 Virgo
his Chiron: 8 Pisces
his DR Destinn: 4 Pisces

my Pholus: 6 Pisces
My Ceres: 9 Pisces

Composite: Venus 5 Pisces
Composite Jupiter: 6 Pisces

Actually I think if you look at those "same-positioned" planets, hit by transits, you can get a very good feel for the athmosphere of this meeting.

posted October 30, 2009 04:53 PM            

Anyway, it is Friday and I have answered briefly because I am into frivolity currently.

Thanks for the response everyone.

posted September 04, 2010 01:51 PM            

comparisons of
Heliocentric to Heliocentric
(how the higher selves effect each other)

Heliocentric to Geocentric
(how the higher self effects the earthly self)

Raymond

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No..I am not a Virgo.

posted September 04, 2010 02:14 PM            

Thanks

I agree with Right Ascension being added

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No..I am not a Virgo.