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hanakin
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posted November 04, 2009 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
I had a date with a guy, on the 1st november. He seemed very eager to meet me, and traveled from another country to meet me.

It was only 30 mins with the fast train... he still did it nonetheless.

Yet for some reason I hated him instantly... I don't understand what happened but I felt like a strong dislike towards him.

Like it was running in my veins. We had communication problems instantly, he even asked me after a bit why I felt so uncomfortable with him.

He is a gemini with sun, venus and mercury in gemini.

I have noticed that his sun and venus exactly oppose...my lilith.

I don't get it I even sent him a raging email telling him I hated him (my friend told me I was insane since he was sending me nice emails).

I don't get it since ... we have mercury conjunct.

Is lilith a sign of strong dislike? I once had my moon conjunct my lover's lilith and vice versa we were strongly attracted to each others but couldn't stop being mean to one another.

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posted November 04, 2009 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
hmm, in my experience,

my biggest dislike was towards a Sagittarius and a Scorpio.

but this was just 'beef' lol

my Lilith is in Libra, i can't recall hating a Libra or Aries.

and in either case,

i have never experienced what you have described, an 'instant' dislike towoards another, i have quickly based on vibes grown to not like a person, but not 'instantly' like it was in my veins.

the email thing sounds quite over the top, how can you be so 'hateful' towards another so quickly over one meeting? thats a lot of attachment of emotion already!

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hanakin
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posted November 04, 2009 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
Letram - sometimes i don't especially appreciate people but i don't mind. It's part of the everyday life deal.

In a way, i think he likes me being mean to him... it's just weird.

the friend i was talking about it is also a Gemini and told me to ignore the correspondence since it's really starting off on the wrong foot (it's weird since ... the friend i'm talking to is born the same day as jean- the guy i seem to dislike (not the same year) but they have the same placements (venus en sun).

My friend's moon is in leo and jean's moon is in either capricorn/aquarius. In any case it's saturnian.

About the email, I admit it, I don't get it either. I just thought I would tell him what I thought of him clearly and the word 'hate' came instantly.

Well we did sleep together... (I didn't want to but he begged me...)

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posted November 04, 2009 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
How can you have hate sex with someone you just met?

Notice that I don't find the concept of hate sex strange (it happens all the time between people who have push/pull relationships), but I do find it strange between people who just met physically.

It sounds like you may have some weird karma going on. What's your synastry like other than the Lilith opposition?

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hanakin
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posted November 04, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't want to have sex with him but he begged and really kissed attacked me.

Jean's Sun opposition Hana's Neptune orb 1° 10'
Jean's Venus opposition Hana's Neptune orb 1° 3'
Jean's Uranus conjunct Hana's Moon orb 1° 30'
Jean's Uranus opposition Hana's Mercury orb 0° 53'
Jean's Moon trine Hana's Mars orb 1° 17'
Jean's Mercury trine Hana's Saturn orb 0° 33'
Jean's Venus trine Hana's Pluto orb 0° 39'
Jean's Neptune square Hana's Mars orb 0° 13'
Jean's Sun square Hana's Mars orb 4° 58'
Jean's Moon square Hana's Jupiter orb 4° 36'
Jean's Moon square Hana's Pluto orb 4° 13'
Jean's Venus square Hana's Mars orb 4° 50'
Jean's Jupiter square Hana's Venus orb 3° 43'
Jean's Uranus trine Hana's Venus orb 4° 58'
Jean's Pluto conjunct Hana's Jupiter orb 4° 15'
Jean's Pluto sextile Hana's Neptune orb 2° 51'
Jean's Ascendant square Hana's Moon orb 3° 2'
Jean's Ascendant square Hana's Mercury orb 3° 39'
Jean's Ascendant sextile Hana's Jupiter orb 2° 42'
Jean's Ascendant square Hana's Uranus orb 3° 13'

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Lara
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posted November 04, 2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I don't dig why you had sex with him either... did you meet him in a hotel room?

im confused

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posted November 04, 2009 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
i also thought it was a little odd that you 'gave it up' on the 'first night' lol (i don't mean to offend!) especially with a guy you dislike so much.

and he begged! i thought begging/desperateness was a TURN-OFF to women.


can you post up the synastry as a chart?

I wonder if i take you home, would you still be in love baby?

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posted November 04, 2009 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like tense Mars-Venus to me. Can we see the charts?

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posted November 05, 2009 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
I had almost the same thing happen to me.

Now two and a half years later we are still together.

I think things like this are karmic.

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posted November 05, 2009 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message
Careful with the messages you convey.....telling a Gemini you hate them could be considered foreplay

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posted November 05, 2009 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like a gut instinct.

I had one recently but the situation didn't allow me to follow it and run off fast. In time, like me, you might regret not having done so.

Or maybe this is one of those odd love-hate relationships. Being a Gem I can definitely go with the foreplay comment, I was going to say I can see where you are coming from but maybe that's not the best way of putting it.

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posted November 05, 2009 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
This is a very strange case. Lots of karma at (fore ?) play.

The reasons may not be clear in the tropical but will be easily found in the Draconic Synastry.
Asc sq Asc in either charts may create a "hate" factor. There are many squares in the tropical mentiond, but the orbs are not too tight.

Draconic Mars trine Eros for example will allow sex. Begging by a guy is not a turn off for natives who have controlling aspects to the Moon, or in some cases, Draconic Moon in 6th.


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posted November 05, 2009 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
I know it sounds crazy, but i had sex with someone i don't especially...like.

But to top it all we had non stop sex for more than three hours (i don't understand that either).

Anyway... maybe we're only physically attracted and that's about it.

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posted November 05, 2009 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
this is the draconic charts i am the aquarian he is the aries


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posted November 05, 2009 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
At first I didn`t understand it, too. As I could never imagine having sex with someone I don`t like.

But the way you put it: Did you try to get him out of your system somehow?

If that is the case, it definitely sounds karmic ridden to me. Like you recognized him, but you didnīt want to.


You really don`t like him?
Only you can answer that truthfully to yourself.

But the vehemence of your reaction, it seems a bit weird.

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hanakin
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posted November 05, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
DD- I know, I don't understand. I sent him an email telling him i didn't like him from the start (hoping he wouldn't reply) and leave it at that.
But he replied. I don't understand either why I dislike him so much...
I enjoyed foreplay with him, but the day after none of us felt like talking to the other and i dumped him by the underground on the way to work (he said he didn't feel like walking next to me anyway and i was like right go get lost then).

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posted November 05, 2009 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message

I will assume you are female. I really hope you are, for the sake of Man. I dont know, just plain ignorant.

As objective as possible

You met someone, had an instant dislike, yet there was a big enough pull to break down the female programming, and hence, your knickers/big pants/no pants?

Not sure if accurate, yet will take it as it reads, for his natal.

Him Leo rising and you Gemini rising brings a sextile (at the worst) between Sun/Mercury/Venus. Moon/Mars are semi-sextile, with Jupiters sextile. Obviously, the outers are similar, making a very compatable pair of natals at 1st look.

All the planets are spread out in each natal, which does mean a few squares and oppositions.

Not seen the composite yet.

The really positive aspects for you are Jupiter and Mercury just past Jupiter, which is a great time for meeting a long-term partner (it does happen these days)

Short-term - dating, your 1st and 5th rulers are past the worst aspect going (opposition) with your 5th ruler (Venus in Aries)

Going on the latter aspect, you might be able to pass it off as a bad date and assume the worst is over.

The last point to bring up is sexual attraction...

Your Mercury in Gemini (1st) and Saturn in Libra (8th) combined with his Sun in Leo (1st) and Neptune in Capricorn (8th)
provides a quincunx and square to his Neptune placement.

A shame such a good natal (at first glance) could be spoiled by a tiny astrological detail such as sexual attraction. But no matter, he is much better off without you

Glad to have helped.

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posted November 05, 2009 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
er... his sun is not in leo, but in gemini.
My fifth house ruler is not saturn...
saturn is transiting.

I *think* the sexual attraction comes down to the fact his mars is in scorpio, my venus is in aries....

It makes these two planets act very marsian.

I really thought i would get along with a mercurian person.

And well yeah I slept with someone I don't appreciate ...but I regret it enough as it is.

One learns from their mistakes.

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posted November 05, 2009 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Another IC/AC chart, lol. What's going on lately?

I think you 'hate' him because you regret having sex with him.

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posted November 05, 2009 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
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er... his sun is not in leo, but in gemini.
My fifth house ruler is not saturn...
saturn is transiting.

Sun in Gemini, yes.
5th ruler is not Saturn, no, its Libra(Venus) much worse

You mean the bad attraction? Mars and Venus are in a bad angle, that is one to look at.

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posted November 05, 2009 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
Diana - yes, but I didn't want from the start, but he really... wouldn't stop until I gave in.

He wasn't very nice either in the morning (i'm not the only jerk in the story... he had a go at me cos i didn't have something he felt he needed to get started).

Venus is my fifth house ruler... what is so bad about it??

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posted November 05, 2009 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
If your gut says dont go back there (after dumping the guy) then dont. The synastry is fine as it is, really, just not good for the area of sex. Thats big for some women...Men too.

You must not like him that much if you called him "perv" so I guess a reconcilliation is out of the question.
Just get the details first and we can all spot it easy enough round here.
Albeit with a bit of chat.

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posted November 05, 2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah well he tried to get me do things I refuse to do in a bed...

The composite is REALLY bad.

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posted November 05, 2009 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean, "he wouldn't stop?"

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posted November 05, 2009 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message

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