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Topic: solar arc - case study
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Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 01:53 PM
here is natal + solar arc with aspects red are natal houses, blue are SA houses, natal placements inside, SA outsidehint* pay attention to the houses, they show a lot, that's why I use Placidus, the Placidus system works! can anyone tell me what happened to this person? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:10 PM
Thank you for answering a question for me, Peri. So Placidus really works. I always found that to be the case, too, but then there are these difficulties in the polar regions...*sighs* Anyway that is not the topic here. Did a child or lover die? I am seeing SA Pluto on the IC, which falls into the 5th natal house. Or were there any other very significant transformative experiences? A difficult birth of a child, losing a child, a very passionate love affair and similiar things...
ASC on Pluto seems very intense, too. But I can`t see which house it is. Sorry, I find that picture really hard to read.
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Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:12 PM
yay to DD! there really was a death in the family but not a brother or sister, check other houses!natal Pluto on IC conj SA ASC/BML IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:15 PM
Mother or father?If I see it rightly the SA ASC has been triggering the natal Pluto exact on natal IC. EDIT: But it wasn`t her or his own death, was it? I once read the IC could relate to our own endings, too.
I am puzzled by the BML there. Was there something dark attached to it? I have read that BML appears to be dominant in the charts of victims of (sexual) violence, but of cours I don`t think that it can be limited to that. IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:16 PM
yes natal IC/Pluto was triggered by SA ASC/BMLDD, what about nodes and other houses? ETA: SA BML and nodes are often prominent in charts when accidents or violence lead to death of the native or death in their family IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:18 PM
NOdes seem to be tied to the 11th house. Sorry, Peri, no clue. EDIT: If I see right they overlay 8th and 12th house though, am I right? Something to do with water? IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 531 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:20 PM
can i ask something?i never understood solar arcs.how do we read them?it seems so complicated... IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:22 PM
It is actually the same as progressions, just the measurement is different.With SA you move every planet forwards with the same amount of degrees, depending on your age. Let us say you are 20 years old, then you are moving every planet 20 degrees forward and look if natal planets are being aspected. For example: When I was 15 I stumbled over the idea of Twinsouls and also started having very interesting dreams and all of this you can see now in me started in that year.
Natally I have Sun: 26 SAg Mercury. 25 SAg Neptune: 10 Sag. With 15 years old, my SA Neptune was on 25 SAg (10 Sag + 15), and hence conjunct my natal Mercury and Sun. Voila!
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Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:24 PM
OK, this one is a difficult onehere we have: natal IC/Pluto conj SA ASC/BML natal BML/ASC conj SA Sun natal 5Hcusp/SN square nBML/ASC and SA Sun and Neptune natal Pluto/IC square SA 5Hcusp and SA nodes this person has lost his grown up child today IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:26 PM
Diandra, some info on solar arcs: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000392.html IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:31 PM
Peri,I am so sorry to hear that. So, I sadly was right with my first hunch, at least the edited version of it, when I noticed that this pluto /IC fell into the 5th house. I wish I was wrong though. This is just so horrible. I wish this person many angels walking by his side to help him somehow come through all of this. IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 02:33 PM
yes, thanks DD IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 03:00 PM
This is the natal and SA (and progressions) of something not so tragical. Even though there was an event, I think this may be more about the time quality, about psychological developments. What do you spot?The blue are SA, the green are progressions.
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Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 03:18 PM
SA Uranus and 11Hcusp on ASC, NN and Neptune looks like your dream suddenly came true? something connected with long trip by sea? something connected with music or other Neptunian things?IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 04:34 PM
That is very interesting, Peri.Your remark about the sea made me think of my trip to London in july though. Last saturday I actually was at a concert, so there was music. Definitely. And next friday I will be visiting another musical concert. I thought the Uranus on the NN, ASC and Neptune was interesting, made me think of unusual surprising things to happen. Well, there was one suprising thing, and that was that coincidentally the singer and me had picked the same hotel, which I only knew cause his parents and me were checking in at the same time. It surely is nothing earthshattering, but it was a bit surprising. Anyway, I am still hoping for some other pleasant surprises. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1670 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 04:41 PM
I'm confused about SAs because I don't know how quickly the planets move. Like I've had my SA Pluto conjunct my 7th house cusp/Dsc for a long time now. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 04:45 PM
The SA planets move all with equal speed, the speed of your Sun, which means that they all move about 1 degree per year.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1670 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 04:49 PM
Thanks, DD... good to know I remember GeoCosmic saying some time ago that we should only count the hard aspects in reading Solar arcs. I'm wondering if that's true. Do we discount the trines and sextiles? Maybe they're just not as felt. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 04:57 PM
YEs, I definitely would pay the most attention to the hard aspects, especially the conjunction and opposition.I think the softer aspects are more like background music, but if there is a very aggressive melody in the foreground (the hard aspects), you may not be able to hear the softer background music. Maybe if there are no hard aspects, it would be different. I remember that in that year I developed a crush on someone, very very vehemently, and through this man my whole perception on life changed.
His SA Uranus was on 25 Virgo (in my 9th house) exactly squaring my Mercury on 25°03 Sag and my Sun on 25°56 Sag.
His SA Pluto was on 6 Libra conjunct my MC on 5 Libra and squaring my Venus on 6 Capricorn (in the natal synastry his Pluto was trine my Venus). His SA Neptune was on 10 Sagittarius, exactly conjunct my Neptune and True Node on 10 SAgittarius. It was appropriate timing I guess.
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DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 531 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 07:36 PM
im so sorry.may his soul be in Peace and guiding the loved ones here on Earth. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Moderator Posts: 1110 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 08:07 PM
Excellent idea to start this thread Peri. Thank you. I'll be following it. IP: Logged |
belgz Knowflake Posts: 392 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2009 09:59 PM
Sorry to hear that.. its amazing how those kind of things can be predicted. Why would it not predict a birth though? I mean does pluto us ually mean death? Couldnt it also mean birth? What would show birth then???------------------ •' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ • •Sun• Cancer •Moon• Gemini •Mars• Cancer •Mercury• Cancer •Venus• Leo •••Virgo Rising••• IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1952 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 01:03 AM
Belgz,I was thinking the same thing, after I had posted about the possible death. To be honest, I don`t know why I thought of a death rather than a birth in this case (Pluto in 5th house can of course also be a birth). Maybe it was more intuition or a hunch than really based on astrology. IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 01:51 AM
MVM, as for me I consider all solar arc major aspects.IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 913 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 02:09 AM
another chart, a girl got married and gave birth to a babyinteresting that nodes make aspects to 5Hcusp again + SA IC conj Sun, 12Hcusp progressed onto natal ASC making her feel lonely and bored because this pregnancy was not planned and she was not really ready for it and got very depressed that she could not solialize with her friends and be the center of attention any more, this showed also by SA Merc on Sun square nodes >> all her unmarried friends remained in the past also her 6H cusp progressed onto natal DSC this marriage felt like a duty to her,there was nothing romantic about her marriage in the very beginning, SA Uranus on ASC shows change of status from single to married,SA DSC almost conj Moon/Jupiter trine Venus (marriage itself?) what do you guys think? IP: Logged |