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vapor-lash
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posted November 28, 2009 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hi guys! Wooooooooooooow long time no post.

I had a rollercoaster year and didn't really get a chance to pop in here, as odd as that may sound - for an entire year. I felt/feel plutonified (t. pluto over my mars) & had not much time to myself.

Anyhoo, I miss LindaLand and I'm glad to be back. I hope you are all happy & well and had an awesome year!



On the thread question - There is a particular person in my life at the moment - actually he has been in my life since last year. He has a Scorpio Mars, so I'm kind of curious about this placement.

For Scorp Mars people: If you are very seriously interested in someone, both intellectually and sexually, how long does it take you to make a move and how would you approach the person?

I get the feeling that people with this placement have no problems initiating sexual flings or one night stands, but when they are serious about someone they seem very slow or wary. Maybe it's the good ol' fear of losing control.

Thank you!!!

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posted November 28, 2009 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Just to add - if you've dated a Scorpio Mars man, I'd like to hear from you also!

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posted November 28, 2009 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilystar     Edit/Delete Message
My bro is a scorp mars and we talk openly about relationships and sex. I also had a fling with one which was short lived but quite fun.

I agree that they are aggressive when it's mostly sexual. However I believe they also don't shy away from actively pursuing someone they are interested beyond the physical. They are straightforward in their manner and if they want you, you will know. My guess is that if you have to wonder, it means that "he's just not that into you".

But please, this is just my generalized opinion, disregarding his venus sign and aspects between other planets. Best of luck!

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posted November 28, 2009 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
Hai! Well, yeah I did date a Scorp-Mars, and it was overwhelming! Euh..I mean, the intimacy was overwhelming.
We kissed like I've never kissed before, never never never never...
I really didn't know that such a joy/passion/creativity could exist in JUST kissing - it's like reaching climaxes ALL the time and it's enough; no need for naked bodies, hands under the shirt or whatever; keeping the EROS! ofcourse, it takes TWO to tango like this (a rare kind of unity which I stopped looking for, it's too hard to find but still a cross to bear when you get again and again a kiss that reminds you of..)

His Mars conj. my Moon, imagine.

The first weeks he did EVERYTHING for me but it just was too much, too soon, too fast without any control, he even got himself tested on STD's (because I wanted in case something more would happen - but it never did, lol).
A few times he complained about other girls who just wanted to have sex to win him for a future without really enjoying intimacy, that's what he felt.


Too hot to handle & survive!!!

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posted November 28, 2009 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Scorpio Mars person, but I am female so I'm uncertain how valuable my 'testimony' will be.

For what it's worth, my intentions are always clear. This is preferable because it's economic on time. Being coy wastes time that I could be using to explore the infinite depths of a person. Besides, with Scorpio AC, Jupiter and Eros - there is a allergic reaction to anything that beats about the bush. It's boring and useless to fear making one's intentions clear because it literally takes away from the human condition of living in the richness of NOW.

But, like someone said above, there are other factors that should be considered, definitely more than just one placement. For example, in which house is his Mars because mine is in 1st, which makes sense. If it were in 12th, I am sure that I would be different. Also, if it was aspected by Saturn and Neptune, it would alter the Mars drive. Is his Mars aspected by an angle, etc etc. as this can alter a lot?

Cheers!

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posted November 28, 2009 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
I've had SO MANY scorpio mars friends but they were all girls too.

They hated beating around the bush as well but this one girl I know she pursued a guy in her own way FOR YEARS until something finally happened between them.

Oh and there was a guy who pursued me FOR MONTHS -just to have sex with me !! I'm a scorp and we had mars conj sun I cut off contact with him but he was kind of cute

They can get really obsessed and once they are YOU KNOW IT lol

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posted November 28, 2009 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
But you're right sometimes when they are really in love they remain silent and just wait for the right moment or until they are certain that you are interesed too just a typical scorpio trait

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posted November 28, 2009 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
swirl-kitt~ If anything, I would show interest through actions than through words, so a person would know my intentions but practically wouldn't be able to prove it because I have not declared anything, not until I am sure that it is right to tell them.

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posted November 28, 2009 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Hi CF! Welcome back, reincarnated as vapor-lash

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posted November 28, 2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
CF!!!!!!!! I have been wondering where you are!
welcome back!!

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posted November 28, 2009 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilystar     Edit/Delete Message
I so admire Scorp people's directness in a relationship!!! I find that I'm particulary compatible with Scorp individuals since my Mars in Libra makes me incredibly passive in relationships.

One time I met this guy with Libra Mars like mine and it took us years before he gave up waiting for a sign from me and decided to make the first move himself. It's ridiculous since we were both intensely attracted to eachother from the first moment we met. When he decided to finally open up and make the first move, he basically spilled his guts on the second date that he always loved me and wants to marry me which freaked me out big time. Had we started dating sooner even as casual friends AND for some decent amount of time, I wouldn't have thought he was crazy. My opinion is that it's hard to fathom a Libra Mars individual's depth of feeling for a person since we are soooo freakin passive-aggressive, indecisive and basically scared ******** . For him, his desire and feeling for me just kept accumulating then exploded one day. Wasn't a pretty sight.

I'm kinda safe from doing something like that since my Aqua venus doesn't allow deep emotional attachments. Plus Uranus is active in my chart...

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posted November 28, 2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Flip a few rules and systems around and you have a chart in which Aries rules house 1 all the time. Aries will show what your personality is like. Actions also.

With 1st ruler placed in Scorpio, the style in which that 1st house Aries Mars acts is a Scorpio way. Control can have extremes.

I take my time, should I ever find someone suitable. None yet
Going straight in without thinking isnt really Me in the opening stages. Many years later, fine - when I feel like giving up some control.

Make sure she is fully checked out before hand. Doesnt know him or her, that type of stuff.

Control, paranoia...whatever

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posted November 28, 2009 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Zala and Peri - thank you so much for the warm venusian welcome!

Zala, I just realized my new nick sounds a bit like yours with the "lash" at the end lol

Peri, thanks for thinking about me. That's really sweet of you
I'm very excited to be back.


For everyone who posted in reply to my question - Thank you for sharing! I like reading first hand stories, because when you look up something like "mars in scorpio" the interpretations sound very standardized.

I don't have doubts as to whether he is into me. I only have doubts as to whether he will ever make a move lol It's a slightly "taboo" situation. Being a social sun sign - Leo, I think this worries him.

Unmoved - He does make his feelings known physically, through body language (never verbally, that's very accurate). He has also helped me lots. I never had to ask and he never expected anything in return.

Swirl-Kitt - LOL Actually we have the same Nodes.. NN in Taurus and SN in Scorpio. I think we both need to move towards a more peaceful/less obsessive-compulsive existence.

Coffee - that really sounds a lot like him. Where is your Venus? His is in Virgo.


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posted November 30, 2009 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting thread, cus recently I wonder the very same thing - is he going to make a move, I am absolutely sure that he is into me.

And in my case his mars conj his sun in Scorp. Few times he begun to approach me but something interrupted his intentions. For my man I wonder is it because of his Virgo moon?!
Or is he really looking for something more than sex ?

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posted November 30, 2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bumblebee! Do you think it's some sort of puritan Virgonean thing? Sometimes I think he has this picture perfect image of me in his mind that he is afraid to ruin.

I don't have Virgo in my chart - only Ceres & IC, not sure if those count. I don't know how well I read Virgo lol Although my Cappy stellium should help.

His Mars is exactly conjunct my Pluto, opposite my Venus - on our Nodes.

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in my case his mars conj his sun in Scorp.

He'd be double scorpio-like then. Mine has a Sun/Mars square - Leo/Scorpio

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posted December 01, 2009 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
In my case I think that he is very intimidated by me, long story...and the interesting thing is that his Saturn conjunct my Asc exactly, I think that this has something to do with it

As fas as puritanism I can not be sure...both we are married, shame on us

But this double Scorp has to be double motivated and courages don't ya think?

My man has Venus in Capricorn, which I guess makes him very cautious in love

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posted December 01, 2009 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
wow his Saturn is exactly conjunct my Sun at 12 Aries. And my Saturn at 9 Sagittarius is trine his Sun at 9 Leo (and Jupiter - 14 Leo).

I always felt this was very Saturnian. Usually I see it as a positive thing, since our Saturns are in a grand trine. But there are times when his Saturn gets to me lol

I'm guessing in your situation with Saturn on your Asc - maybe you feel as though he criticizes or freezes the way you express yourself - on occasion. Or as you said - it could also be that he is "scared" in a sense or intimidated, because you express the traits of that sign with ease (the asc) -- whereas he is restricted in that area.

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As fas as puritanism I can not be sure...both we are married, shame on us

lol when we met, at the start of last year - he was married and I had a bf. He was separated though and the divorce was finalized in March this year (after lots of drama). My bf and I sort of drifted away, but I'm still in touch - as friends.
It's weird because back then, due to the situation - his marriage (he was getting couple's counselling at the time & I was not sure that they wouldn't get back together. Leos find it difficult to end something that is long-term, mainly when they have kids, but the relationship sounded very toxic) + my own relationship and a few other things like the age gap.. I honestly thought it would *never* happen.

Now it seems like it may happen after all.. strange. Time's strange.

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double Scorp has to be double motivated and courages don't ya think?

My man has Venus in Capricorn, which I guess makes him very cautious in love


Yes, I think so. I have a Moon in Capricorn and Mars/Neptune in Cap also. I don't think I could have an affair once I am in a committed relationship. Things would have to go badly between us and I'd have to actually want to *split* - in order to look for someone new. But, anything could happen. Maybe he was already considering divorce, as it happened in my situation.

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posted December 01, 2009 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Mars in Scorpio in the first here...opposite my Venus in Aries. You'd think that would make me rather forthright, but it's not the case. I think that I really rely on the "vibe" of the person and wait until I absorb them in a sense before I'd make anything completely known.

I agree with what Unmoved said as far as my interest showing mostly as body language as opposed to telling someone verbally that I'm interested.

I would...however...be toast if I was into someone and they made a first move. Venus Aries likes to dive in and sort it out later!

8th

ETA) A good friend just reminded me that my Mars is retrograde in my natal, so that is very telling in my case!

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posted December 02, 2009 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know his marriage situation, but I believe that he had this huge crush on me that in the first place I thought that he is not married - never thought that a married man would be so into someone /I mean me / And I am pisces sun, I rely strongly on my intuition.

the interesting thing is that his true node and his juno conjunct exactly my IC. His scorpio stellium /sun, mars and uranus/ fall in my 4th house. through time /cus it's been 4 months already/ I begun to consider a divorce, and him for a potential partner.
Time is interesting thing as you said....it will tell

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posted December 15, 2009 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, vapor-lash. I've been expecting you.

I'm so happy to see you here again! I've missed your brain. It's a good brain. Welcome back, brain! And all your other parts, too.

Is vapor-lash an homage to your Neptune-Mars conjunction?

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posted December 16, 2009 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Jane - How Exciting!

I mean..

G.o.o.d. E.v.e.n.i.n.g. Jane


My brain LOVES your brain & Thank You - My brain really appreciates it!

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Is vapor-lash an homage to your Neptune-Mars conjunction?

Hehe lol it actually wasn't intended to be a homage to anything. It started with the vapor drops next to my computer (I had a sore throat! Lol).. but that's a actually a good idea (it suits the mars/neptune)


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posted December 16, 2009 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Cough drops! Aww man, you mean instead of a misty, animalistic scene, your name should conjure thoughts of post-nasal drip?

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posted December 16, 2009 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
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Cough drops! Aww man, you mean instead of a misty, animalistic scene, your name should conjure thoughts of post-nasal drip?

LOL

Oh did I forget to mention that - as I intently watched my vapodrops container, I was bent over the desk naked, whilst Leo Dicaprio was behind me holding a leather whip.. waiting.. for the right moment to strike

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posted December 16, 2009 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like a typical Wednesday!

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posted December 18, 2009 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
I am a Scorpio Mars person (in the 10th) but I never make the first move. However I find that men who are interested will almost always be drawn TO me and I will instinctively know whether they are interested or not. I can help coax them into making the first move though if I am attracted as well... but I will never declare my love or put the moves on someone first :) I may want to, but I won't (a fear of rejection thing). But it's usually obvious to others if I like someone - that's when all the jokes and teasing start.

Talking about making the first move .. I actually emailed someone I met yestereday my phone number and asked him out for a coffee :) lol this is SO unlike me! I think he may be interested but I am in a rare "what do I have to lose" frame of mind.

Actually before my last relationship began I knew he liked me so that's when I insisted on visiting him lol but usually I wouldn't do this unless I know instinctively that there's an interest. But I have never phsyically put a move on someone first.

So my suggestion would be that if you like him flirt and make it obvious but don't be over the top.. just be really friendly/attentive/nice. See how they respond.. watch out for little signs they want to see you/get to know you better :) Then you know you're safe to at least ask them out for a coffee :)

PS. I am not sexually interested in anyone unless I am mentally attracted to them too :)

Hope this helps and good luck.

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