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Deux*Antares
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posted December 09, 2009 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
How come we don't have a thread about him?

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posted December 09, 2009 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
Tiger Woods has a problem since transit Uranus over his Descendant made his relationships world news. Read all about him on Astropost.
But do he and his wife Elin Nordegren (mother of their two children) match? No, they don’t. They seem to have married the right person to break free from later. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you meet a person and marry him/her because trough that person you meet Mr. or Mrs. Right or you simply get the children that you want AND your indepence…But divorces don’t come easy. Can they be avoided by having a look at the match? I doubt it. People just don’t believe it when they are told that they don’t match. It is because they fell in love

SIGN FOR DIVORCE
When Elin Nordegren was born, the Sun in Capricorn was semi square Uranus. That is one of the aspects that show the risk of getting divorced. Tiger Woods has two (parallels of Moon with Saturn and Neptune). It is their first marriage, so it will be hard to stay together, unless there is a perfect match.

MATCH?
They are both Capricorns (he December 30, she January 1) and that makes it easy to live as one. But, their Moons are in opposite signs, so it will be hard to live as one in one house and family. They have different habits and needs and family backgrounds (she is Swedish). It won’t be easy to feel ‘ close’ soon. They will have to get used to each other or find ways to live together, but apart.
His Venus is in Scorpio and hers in Aquarius. That is no match, but fortunately 312 – 239 = 73 (a quintile), so that they like and love each other and found a creative way to match tastes and sympathies. The square between his Mars and hers is however not compensated at all. His Mars is important (on top of his chart), so that the square hits hard.

No, they don’t match, really…And: there are more difficulties:

In Elin’s natal chart the Sun is semi square Uranus and that Uranus is semi square his Sun! It seems that she married the right guy to divorce from and be independent and free again.

NEWS
Now that the public has been informed by more and more ex-‘ lovers’ about the adventures of her husband, there is a lot of pressure. Her progressed Sun has been 75 degrees from Uranus (a shock, a change) earlier and is exactly 75 degrees from progressed Uranus. That is confirming the natal aspect. It is time to see the truth.
Also the progressed Sun is now inconjunct Jupiter (being right, but…). The combination of Jupiter and Neptune is perhaps mirroring a relief. It must be awful to have to pretend all the time.

Elin has better times to look forward to. Within 18 months the progressed Sun will be conjunct Venus and sesquisquare Saturn. Perhaps there will be found an arrangement.

MARRIAGE
When she met Tiger Woods her progressed Sun sign changed (and so did her life style) and her progressed Sun was opposition his natal Saturn when they married. That is not a good sign. His life changed when he married her, too. He had progressed Sun opposition Uranus, a sort of a reflection of a ‘ matter of freedom and indepence’ . And now Uranus is there again…It seems that they married the right person to break free from.

No, there is no match between them. And yes, the transit of Uranus on the Descendant of Tiger Woods comes together with progression with Uranus in the chart of his wife. It must be very exciting, tense and hectic…
http://www.astrodispatch.com/2009/12/06/do-tiger-woods-and-elin-nordegren-match/

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posted December 09, 2009 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
If used improperly, venus in Scorpio can make someone very promiscuous since they keep hoping the person they have sex with will make a sex an all-consuming experience, but not every mistress will be able to do this. Note: This does not mean everyone with Venus in Scorpio is a cheater or is promiscuous!

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posted December 09, 2009 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
What is the difference between Tiger Woods and Santa? Santa stops at three hos.

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posted December 09, 2009 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheels of cheese     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 09, 2009 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Tiger Woods' case looks like a typical Uranus transit, but to me it reinforces the hidden side of Virgo or Virgo Rising/Virgo Moons. The drive towards perfection causes hidden sexual obsessions and sexual disorders. Mathematical Astrology connects Virgo to the 12th House.

Shane Warne is the greatest bowler in cricketing history, about 3 times as great as Randy Johnson is in baseball.
This Virgo legend bedded atleast a dozen UK ladies when his wife was in Australia.

Such scandals were absent in the early days of his career, all were after his peak.

It is as if there is a regret in not being able to brag about the number of women they have seduced.

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posted December 09, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
cos he's really a cheetah

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posted December 09, 2009 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Oy. Why'd he have to be Venus in Scorp? As if our rep wasn't bad enough!

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posted December 09, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i have to admit i haven't really followed this; personally i find the infidelities of celebs to be none of our business. of course women threw themselves at him...and probably not all the claimants actually are real...but really, groupies are everywhere, sports, music, hollywood...it would be a rare man who never gave in to temptation. does that mean he's a cad? not necessarily. and if she has venus in aqua she may not mind that much anyway!

is there actual talk of divorce or just speculation on the part of the gossips?

have to say, though, that i have uranus semisquare sun and i did go through a divorce...however it was 12 years after we separated! very uranian...

i heard that he was pretty obviously on drugs during his accident; to me this is the real issue and the affair(s) are a distraction from the fact that he is not being hauled up for DUI...

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posted December 09, 2009 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquariusMoon     Edit/Delete Message
in another astro thread someone pointed out the negative aspects in their synastry and concluded the most negative one was her saturn on his ASC, which I disagree because I know many couples with this aspect who are very in love, its depends if one of the partners is a saturn type of person, which they are because they are Capricorns. I would have to look at their composite.

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posted December 09, 2009 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
I was waiting for this topic.

After the incident, I looked at his chart and found that he has venus in scorpio. I was shocked! I have this placement myself and the people I know who have it tend to be very loyal....I just do not understand.

Could it be his mars in gemini? moon in sag?

After the Tiger incident, I came across this article on celebrity male cheaters and I did charts for all of them. I saw that it was common for the men to have a venus or mars in an air sign or sag/air moon.

But, I am still learning so I don't get all of the aspects yet. Thus, don't read literally.

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Tiger Woods' case looks like a typical Uranus transit, but to me it reinforces the hidden side of Virgo or Virgo Rising/Virgo Moons. The drive towards perfection causes hidden sexual obsessions and sexual disorders.

Really?

Is this hidden side due to failure? Because judging from the virgos I know and people with virgo placements, especially those with Mars with Virgo...it seems that they may react like this when things are not going well.

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posted December 09, 2009 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hikoro, from what I understand, most Venus in Scorpios are extremely loyal but others who are unhappy with their partners are cheating machines yet RELUCTANT to leave the partnership. I think that makes sense in a twisted kind of way.

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posted December 09, 2009 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenusGirl

You also have venus in scorpio. I can see what you are saying but, I would rather end things and not look back. That is the way the scorpio venuses I have talked to would react toward a failing relationship.

We can be very determined and we are not known to give up easily and stray. If anything, we communicate our concerns. But once we see there is truly no hope, we sail.

Now, you do have your mars in a fixed sign, just like me. I think that people with fixed mars and venus may be more committed? Maybe?
Not sure about aqua though. Aquas can be very non-conventional and see justifications for anything. I have mars in aqua, by the way.

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posted December 09, 2009 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I agree completely! I think most of us are like that. I do think are some abnormal Venus in Scorpios out there who cheat and are promiscuous though--I've seen enough posts on these forums complaining about just that to not know that's the case. But maybe you're right about the Mars in an Air sign.

My Venus in Scorpio/Mars in Leo makes me extremely FIXED in relationships. It takes me forever to leave, even when I'm terribly unhappy. I hate admitting defeat. But fidelity is very important to me--I tend to become faithful to a man before we're even exclusive if I have strong feelings for him. I have only ever cheated on one partner, and I have deep regrets about that. However even while I was cheating, I became physically exclusive with my new partner and stopped being with my ex in that way, so the writing was on the wall. It's hard for me to concentrate on more than one person, and as you know, for us Venus in Scorps, sex is rarely JUST sex.

Tiger's behavior has me flabbergasted.

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posted December 09, 2009 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyra     Edit/Delete Message
What a beautiful girl. What on earth possessed him to cheat?

Still, if even a stunner like Cheryl Cole can't keep her husband from cheating, there's no hope for the rest of us.

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posted December 09, 2009 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenus

It does not help that you also have a fixed moon in Taurus, just like me.
And also...you are a Virgo.

My hun is a virgo sun, moon and mercury with conjunct venus and mars in leo. He is also very fixed with relationships but the thing that I have found about virgos is that they hate failing. Virgos are tenacious in wanting to make things work and they have 'all of these plans' in regards to the relationship.

So yes, I think that having a placement in virgo contributes to not wanting to feel 'defeated'. After all, to the virgo mind, things were supposed to be perfect.

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posted December 09, 2009 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting chart he has. All the personal planets and outers are together in a few signs. With the mid range Mars/Jupiter/Saturn on the other sides.

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posted December 09, 2009 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Tiger's Venus in Scorpio is getting double hit from square transits of Neptune and Jupiter in Aqua.

Plus, he's got natal Chiron on the cusp of his 8th house of sex, so there is a lot of healing he needs to do in this area.

ETA: The ruler of his 8th house, Mars is opposite his moon (5 degree), so there is a tendency to use women. His Mars in Gemini while at the top of his chart indicate he is an athlete, also indicates dual tendencies and a possible dark side to him.

OF course, this is all hindsight. lol. Prior to this scandal, I wouldn't have been able to detect all this.

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posted December 09, 2009 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
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After the incident, I looked at his chart and found that he has venus in scorpio. I was shocked! I have this placement myself and the people I know who have it tend to be very loyal....I just do not understand.

They are no more loyal than other venus signs. I've known scorpio venuses who were loyal and others that were pathological liars, backstabbers and cheaters. Tiger apparently falls into the latter category...

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posted December 09, 2009 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Was the humour intentional?

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posted December 09, 2009 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
Astra

I can see your point but I still think that generally speaking, a venus in scorpio will be far more loyal than a venus in gemini. Simply speaking, there are some signs that are more loyal to others as there are some signs that are prone to be more artistic-oriented than others. If these differences did not exist, then we might as well say that all the signs have the same characteristics and qualities. Thus, a pisces=aries=cancer, etc. Oh-oh! Astrology is bunk!
However, aspects have a lot to do with this too.

As we see, Tiger's venus in scorpio is facing certain challenging aspects.

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posted December 09, 2009 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message
Coffee

That is the rumor. That the accident and strike to the car window with the golf club involved marital issues in regards to one of Tiger's transgression, that is, Elin was raging mad and chasing after him...who knows.

Wanda Sykes joked about it and SNL already did a skit based on this rumor.

I just hope that the children are going to be ok, at least they are still very young, so not as aware about this drama. But when they grow up, I wonder.

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posted December 10, 2009 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duality2     Edit/Delete Message
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Tiger Woods' case looks like a typical Uranus transit, but to me it reinforces the hidden side of Virgo or Virgo Rising/Virgo Moons. The drive towards perfection causes hidden sexual obsessions and sexual disorders. Mathematical Astrology connects Virgo to the 12th House

It has nothing to do with a Uranus transit or any transit. He's been cheating on her from the very beginning of their marriage (probably while they were dating too). It has everything to do with HIM.

Look for any answers in his birthchart.

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posted December 10, 2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
I wanted to add my two cents...perhaps the reason he didn't leave was a combo of his venus in scorp (loyalty to the partnership) and cap sun (loyalty to the family). I happen to think the bigger clues as to why he cheated was his sag moon and mars in gemini. I don't think EVERY person who has those will cheat...but I think that those placements (especially a sag moon) get very very bored easily...and love variety. I've even known of Sag moon guys who say they get bored having sex with the same girl after even only two weeks (and they had cap and saturn placements as well).

Plus I hate to say this (I have a nephew who is a college athelete) but from dating athletes in college and high school...they do have to tendency to sleep around...even in a partnership. In fact I've had friends who say that when dealing with an athlete that you kinda expect it to happen. I'm not saying what he did was ok...but given the fact that he IS an athlete and a man at that...its a wonder his cheating wasn't found out before.

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posted December 10, 2009 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I think most people forget that cap is a very lusty sign. They don't usually show it to anyone but their SO, but they are an earth sign afterall. That said, not all people with cap cheat, just like not all people with sag moon cheat. It's a possible indicator, but it depends on a lot more than chart placements. It's like genetics vs. environment. Not everyone with the gene for cancer will get it, but if you add in environment factors it can either be increased or decreased.

He is a celebrity. They live in a different world. They have a sense of entitlement and it's just too easy.

The majority of people cheat anyway, so this is really not such a big deal. Not that I think it's right, but it is reality.

Also, who knows, maybe he realized he shouldn't have married her. Maybe they weren't as compatible as he thought. Maybe he changed. Maybe she changed. Maybe he got married for all the wrong reasons. Maybe it's the wh_re - madonna syndrome. Either way, regardless of why he did it, I feel this is a private matter between a husband and wife and none of the world's business. I feel bad for both of them (her more, of course) that their dirty laundry is being aired publicly. I highly doubt any of us are absolute saints, and even if you haven't cheated, most people who do end up cheating never thought they would cheat.

Ok. So his chart does show this being brought out into the open. He will be having an eclipse opposite his sun and in his 4th house opp his 10th of public image. He recently had an eclipse on his saturn in the 11th house, ruler on the cusp of his 5th of affairs.

he will have another eclipse on his merc in the 5th of affairs and children.

t,uranus is about to cross his DC. I assume that is when they will separate, divorce or decide to stgay together.

t. sat is squaring his sun and t.plu is conjunct his sun. This is all so obvious in retrospect. If I'd have known he was cheating, I would have predicted this as the time it came out.

I could go on...he has a ton of transits that coincide, but I am in a hurry.


PS -- I find the photo making light of domestic violence (just because he's a man) very wrong. I think we all understand why she hit him, but that doesn't make it right at all. No one deserves to be battered.

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