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Amphitrite
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posted December 13, 2009 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if anybody has experienced

person A mars conjunct chiron opposite person B pluto

and person A pluto conjunct person B sun

these are pretty intense aspects to have with somebody?

We also have my (person B) NN conjunct his sun, moon and mercury and his saturn square my sun. Also his sun sits on my AC.

This relationship is driving me nuts...

anybody have any experiences with these aspects they'd like to share?

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Amphitrite
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posted December 14, 2009 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
Just wondering if anybody is able to tell me how I can post a chart so that perhaps somebody can take a look at our synastry?

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vapor-lash
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posted December 14, 2009 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Sure..

First get a free synastry chart at www.astro.com. It is somewhere in the "free charts" section.

Then save the chart to your comp and upload it on photobucket.com or imageshack.us - or wherever you like.

Once uploaded, you'll get a code/link to the chart pic, that you can post here.
If you only have the link - you'll have to put it in [ img ] [ /img ] brackets (no spaces). But usually they give you a link with the [ img ] tags.

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posted December 14, 2009 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
This is our synastry chart. If anybody has time to take a look, that would be great. Perhaps let me know if there may be other reasons (apart from pluto) why this relationship does my head in so much. I'm on the outside.

Thanks Vapor-lash for your help with posting

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posted December 14, 2009 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
I thought I might as well post the composite as well in case anybody had any thoughts or observations. Any insight most welcome

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vapor-lash
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posted December 14, 2009 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
No worries - and Welcome to LL!!!

I read your other thread and I had a very initial feeling that you may be an Aries for some reason... Reading on I thought hmmmm no she's JUST too nice to this guy after the way he has been behaving.

My advice was going to be: BE a B*TCH to him lol why? Because it works!

Now that I'm looking at your chart, with 4 planets in Libra, I see why I interpreted your behaviour as too nice or polite, since I have an Aries sun myself.

Stating what I want clearly seems to work with Leos. There is one in my life atm (the first and only Leo I've ever seriously liked romantically. We likewise have Pluto aspects. My Pluto is conjunct his Mars and square his Sun. His Pluto is trine my Moon. He has some similarities to your guy - (Leo Sun/Gem Moon/Cancer Mercury/Virgo Venus/Scorpio Mars).

I find that, due to the over-emphasized ego, they sometimes forget other people have their own desires/needs. You have to make it clear to him that his behaviour is unacceptable to you and you are very upset about the whole NYE situation.
If I were in your shoes I'd have a conversation and literally tell him that he has been doing this several times and I've just about had it with his "on again", "off again" dates that never happen.

A while ago, at my university I was in a class with a Leo guy and a Libra girl. She liked him. He did seem to sort of/kind of reciprocate but he was pretty detached towards her. I really thought that it was due to her niceness. I was a little smug towards him jokingly and all of the sudden he was flirting with me.
"You better shape up" is a theme that works here. Don't be afraid to be a little mean.

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posted December 14, 2009 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your lovely welcome and prompt reply, Vapor-lash

I think I do need to be a little more forward rather than sitting back and making concessions for his behaviour and letting it go. I suppose its just a little awkward given that we work closely together. I'm also of the mindset that a relationship of any sort is a two way street, and if one party isn't willing to make an effort then perhaps I am wasting my time, however disappointing that may be. So I guess I'm at that point, wondering if I should say how I feel and keep trying or just let it go and save my sanity.

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posted December 14, 2009 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
In case anybody missed it, this is the initial thread I posted with regard to this person
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202778.html

I often wonder, perhaps he is just using me for help at work or whatever, and doesn't really care that much. But he does also help me out alot also. However, I was maybe thinking that his virgoness wouldn't make him the type to bother with a superficial friendship beyond work.

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posted December 14, 2009 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hi!

quote:
I'm also of the mindset that a relationship of any sort is a two way street, and if one party isn't willing to make an effort then perhaps I am wasting my time, however disappointing that may be.

I understand that. If it goes against your basic nature to behave in the way I described, then it's really best to stay true to yourself and your values.
What you said sounds like - if you had to pick your one most important criteria in a partner, that criteria would be that they make an effort and that your relationship feels like an equal give and take.

If this is extremely important to you then perhaps he is not the best guy.
He is probably a bit too fiesty, emotive and at times selfcentered to create the kind of atmosphere you are after.

He may change. Obviously I don't know him. You could possibly convince him to alter his behaviour in a more subtle & diplomatic manner, but my astrological opinion is that - this wouldn't be an easy task.

Anyway, good luck with it! Whatever you choose, I'm sure things will fall into place. If he's not Mr. Right, perhaps the real Mr. Right will be just around the corner.

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rajin
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posted December 14, 2009 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Vapor-lash,
does the "being a B**ch" work with a sun in libra male work too? I know some Libra males too treat women who are nice and polite to them with disdain. It is as if they are overconfident that they will get any woman they want. Does breaking up with them bring them crawling back?
Sorry Amphitrite, did not mean to hijack your thread.

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Amphitrite
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posted December 14, 2009 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Vapor-lash,

I wouldn't be happy in any type of relationship if I wasn't being true to myself, and equality is important to me. I'm getting a picture of him that is quite self centered at the moment. I don't know about Mr. Right or not, but I was hoping to forge a solid friendship at least, and I have seen glimpses of potential. But he has just been so hot and cold as I mentioned is previous posts, almost like it is all on his terms.

rajin - no worries, hijack away

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rajin
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posted December 14, 2009 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Amphitrite for being so generous.I agree that a relationship should be based on terms of equality and respect but sometimes it seems as if some guys never grow up. You treat them nice they treat you like dirt.
One of my friends had her heart broken by this Libra guy, she would treat him very nicely and he would not return her calls, not keep his word about calling up, but she is till inlove with the guy.
i wonder what it is that makes someone stay in love with a cad like that. I dont even know if he had any real feelings for her at all.

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