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Polo C
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posted December 22, 2009 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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LaraLOVE can feel like LOVE and you fall like its LOVE but then it can suddenly cut off once the KARMIC DEBT has been paid.
So this LOVE is in essence a contractual love, only lasting as long as the karma![/b]

True Love is unconditional only because it is based and built upon eternal things. Eternal things are spiritual things, not material things or temporal things. If what you call love doesn't have it's basis is spirituality, it will have conditions and in time it will fade. For countless centuries it has been said that True Love never dies and it doesn't, right now I am giving you the reason way. Eternity! Without spiritual enlightenment one will have no knowledge of eternal things and so can neither handle or act in accordance with the function of unconditional love.

[quote]laraIt's still LOVE.

It's just not L.O.V.E as in the all-encompassing, binding, forever and never fading kind of love.


Stop being vague and making up stuff, you're confusing people. Lets deal in facts not poetry. On my threads you may use poetry to reinforce your point, but not to make your point. That leads to much to subjective interpretation, which will only take us around and around in circles to nowhere.

Didn't you see "Moulin Rouge? Don't you know that without trust there is no love?


  • To have trust we must have truth.

  • To have truth we must have knowledge or awareness of design (spirit)

  • Without design there is no eternal quality

  • Without eternity all things are conditional

Love, if it is real and unconditional, must be born of eternity without exception. Now you can call your romance love if you'd like. I don't doubt that you feel powerful emotions during a romance, but please, for your own sake and for the good of others who will read this thread for years to come, let's be more clear in our effort to define love and how it functions by design.


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Lara
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posted December 22, 2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
you aren't getting my point Polo.. must be that hole in your mint!

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Polo C
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posted December 22, 2009 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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you aren't getting my point Polo.. must be that hole in your mint!

I'm sorry Lara if I missed the point. I know how frustrating that can be face to face and even more so on a thread like this. So, right now, for the sake of clarity and effective communication, please, by all means... If you will, state you point.

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Diana
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posted December 22, 2009 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
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Hang on! Do you mean penis as in.. 1 or 2? LOL

Science Dictionary

penis (pē'nĭs) Pronunciation Key
Plural penises or penes (pē'nēz)

1.The male reproductive organ of mammals and some reptiles and birds. In mammals, the penis contains the urethra, which carries urine from the bladder and releases sperm during reproduction.

2.A similar organ found in the males of some invertebrate animals. [URL=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/penis [URL=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/penis


This is the funniest thing I've read in awhile!!


PS -- This thread has gotten annoying. Very tedious to me now.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted December 22, 2009 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
"...I want your love and
I want your revenge
You and me could write a bad romance (Ohh).."

Im sorry I couldn't resist..=)

I guess I choose friendship over romance/soulfulness anyday..

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Polo C
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posted December 22, 2009 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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"...I want your love and
I want your revenge
You and me could write a bad romance (Ohh).."

Where is that line from?

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Cheshire Kat
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posted December 23, 2009 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Lady Gaga's song "Bad Romance", the first couple of poster's posts made me think of that song for some reason lol..

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Polo C
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posted December 23, 2009 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and by the way Vapor-Lash, your peek-boo Virgo is Hilarious!!!!!

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posted December 23, 2009 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
*sighs*

The only thing that is currently frustrating me a bit on these boards is that so many people present their beliefs and opinions as facts, while at the same time complaining about other people doing exactly this.

If I think about it, it`s almost hilarious.


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DiandraReborn25
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posted December 23, 2009 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message

it is an EGo thing DD hihihi

i exaclty know what Polo is talking about.

in simple lines it is when we "know thyself" that we can feel what is "True Love." cause till then..we dont know what the Truth really is.

we live in accordance to what others design is.society+s ect...but when we enter the level of spiritual awareness,when we are really deep into it,that includes our own detatchment from all that isnt REAL,all that is ILLUSION,like Life is not the same again.

cause we see that afterall,what weve been living and thinking we are,it isnt afterall what is infact ...real.

So, what people think it is love,is infact romance.

LOVE is when we intimately know and feel,and accept as true,that we ARE LOVE ITSELF. as we are love only,and light only,we can only know from that moment on,how unconditional Love is.WE CANNOT NO LONGER STOP BEING WHO WE ARE...It is no longer an Ego thing,wehre we searcth the other to be loved,to feed our Ego“s needs for love,attention,to feed our emotional drama control,etc..

we see our own eternity in this cycle of lives,and we see that the main objective of all this time-space Design is for us to experience that...we are our own Purpose in Life.We are the Love we search "with out",when in fact we have to "go within".

as within,so without.

Hmm this is all part of what im experienceing now,and as you say..it is my belief only.
but as i see Polo here,i know that he seems to be in the same awakening.

but yup...it is frustrating hihihi - im now learning how to dettacth from Ego and not want to be "right",above the others. it is bad for the Soul really.

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Lara
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posted December 23, 2009 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Absolutely right Diandra.
In fact everything is an illusion; we use the ego to make it real

LOVE is love Polo, whether it's unhealthy, healthy, romance, twin flame love, conditional unconditional or narcissistic. Ego is fear. Ne'er the twain shall meet... don't allow your ego to find the answer to this for you - look WITHIN so you also find all the patterns connected to this realisation and release them.

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posted December 23, 2009 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
There is a vast difference in the depth of understanding of those who learn from reading and those who learn from experience.

Many times, students are filled with the information and words of others, but have not yet lived enough to know much directly on their own. You only know something when you experience it directly, but until that happens, the knowledge gained from it will be beyond the scope of your perception leaving one unaware. Your only means of commenting, either for or against it, will be from something you have read by someone else.

I read certain things, like astrology, to better understand the experience, but I never read anything as a substitute for it. Words can only be trusted if the ideas they present are consistent with reality, but how will you know without experience?

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Lara
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posted December 23, 2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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There is a vast difference in the depth of understanding of those who learn from reading and those who learn from experience.

I do love you PA!! I absolutely agree 100%. Knowledge is gained from outside influence whether books or conversing or visual stimuli. Understanding isn't a given with knowledge.

Understanding = knowledge + experience
Understanding/soul level = knowledge/head + expericence/heart

EDIT words are cheap. experience is priceless

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posted December 26, 2009 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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Understanding = knowledge + experience
Understanding/soul level = knowledge/head + expericence/heart

You have definitely got this RIGHT!

I just had a thought too, concerning romance and soulfulness. Ego attractions can many times be "One-Sided", but spiritual connections never are. Soul bonds are always mutual! From your own personal experiences does this seem to be true?

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Lara
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posted December 26, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Why thank you sir!

Soul attractions are always mutual because both have a lesson to learn from the other, hence the attraction. Once the lesson is learnt, the relationship is over.
I've done this particular one to death

"if you subscribe to the 'ego' in another; you are no better than its slave in yourself" Lara

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posted December 27, 2009 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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Soul attractions are always mutual because both have a lesson to learn from the other, hence the attraction. Once the lesson is learnt, the relationship is over.

Twin Flames are soul attractions and the soul's very nature is eternal. How then can something built and based on the soul come to end?

Only the ego exploits, but the soul always uplifts.

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posted December 27, 2009 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
For me, twin flame re-union is the ultimate gift from the Universe that i have succeeded in clearing my karma in relationships in this lifetime.

Soul relationships are mostly and commonly SOUL MATES. Soul mates are, or have been for me, 99% karmic.

Get it?

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posted December 27, 2009 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I think so. I am starting to think that my Twin Flame has a good deal of karma that needs to be cleared. In fact, I know it to be so. How does one go about clearing Karma in the best way?

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posted December 27, 2009 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well i'm not sure that it can work when one has karma and the other doesn't.

You also need to look at your lives and how parallel they have been.

My twin and i, for instance, both had horrific marriages with long divorces where both our partners took large amounts of money off of us and in the process changed our outlook on life forever. We were both divorced in 2005. We both then rejected materialism in life and went on major soul searchings. I am living a fast track karmic life where i have spent my entire life clearing major karma.
He is the same. So we have now both hit a place where we are pretty much karmic free and so the timing was perfect for us to meet and begin the most important phase of our lives, together.

We have really weird similarities like his eldest child has the same AC and almost identical degree as my eldest. His 2nd child and mine have almost identical degree AC's too! lol
His eldest's birthday is day after my youngest's birthday.

His and my surnames both add up to an 11. Both our names totals combined add up to 11. 11 is prominent in Twin flames, apparently.

We have gobsmacking aspects in synastry. We have had the same careers and we even ended our main careers in the same year, 1992!
We use the same shampoo, we listen to the same music, we have the same hobbies, we had similar childhoods, similar adulthoods. The list goes on and on and on.

We are both spiritually very aware and psychic and we are telepathic. We are the same and he says it's like coming home when he holds me or is close to me. I agree with him.

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posted December 27, 2009 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe I am gonna have to wait until our next life time. It seems to me that there is just too much to deal with this time around. As soon as we clear one thing some new obstacle follows right behind it to take it's place. I'M EXHAUSTED!

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Lara
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posted December 27, 2009 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
How do you mean obstacle? May I ask what kind of issues?

I've had exhausting relationships and they are testing but they are supposed to be to propell change !

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posted December 27, 2009 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
I can't go into details; she may read this board one day, but... It's just like there are four people involved with this, our two egos and our two souls. Our egos want nothing to do with each other, but our souls want nothing but each other. It's like a WAR! From the ego point of view, the union looks impossible, but from the soul point of view it seems inevitable.

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posted December 27, 2009 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
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It's just like there are four people involved with this, our two egos and our two souls. Our egos want nothing to do with each other, but our souls want nothing but each other. It's like a WAR! From the ego point of view, the union looks impossible, but from the soul point of view it seems inevitable.

That was very poetic Polo. You write well.

In such a situation, my best advice is patience. If you're sure this woman is your Twin, you can't force her to be ready. If one or both of you still have major karma to clear, then...duty calls. It will happen when it's meant to happen, in this lifetime or the next...or the next...

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