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DiandraReborn25
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posted December 27, 2009 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
what went wrong Lara?

i thought everything was ll right..you just came frm a wonderful week with your twin..

im sorry,but maybe it is not a permanent break.

sometimes it happens for the relationship to become stronger.

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DD
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posted December 27, 2009 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I am sorry, Lara.

If you want to talk, you can email me.

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comica23
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posted December 27, 2009 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
My Kassandra is exact sextile my Mercury and Uranus that are in exact trine with each other (so that Kassandra is in their midpoint). Does this add some power of prophecy? X3 Well, I can't say that I have powers, although I did have some dreams that indirectly predicted certain things in the past. Also, I used to do simple card readings (tarot with 22 major arcana only lol) that were kinda accurate, specially when I'm really in tune (in the mood).

Telephus and Psyche in synastry.. hmm just a fast look, my Telephus exact trines my bf's Sun (and guess that it also exact sextile his Alma.. and exact oppose his Eros lol) and his Telehpus exact sextile my Psyche. There's synchronicity, and we can get each other and can sometimes think in the same stuffs before saying it (like I'm thinking of something and he ends up saying it), although I wouldn't say that we have great psychic connection lol. But well, Psyche is also conjunct Mercury while Pallas is on the Sun/Moon midpoint in our composite, so it could be it too.

But well, what about Telephus/Psyche hard aspects in the synastry? Can't get each other?

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Lara
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posted December 27, 2009 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I did Diandra... it was such a great week. I don't know why in truth. I can't think. Maybe he can't handle the soul side of it, not ready.


Coffee - thats not nice - this was different.

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Coffee
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posted December 27, 2009 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, I did say to YOU that you will get another. Which is what you normally do.

I did say what was on my mind and very early on today, and I meant it - in a positive way.
I don't know why you didn't receive that message as positive.
....Yeah, you just split with someone, apologies. Not the best time for you. Sorry to hear

I've been having a lot of problems too. I communicate CLEARLY with people and it just doesn't seem to register with pretty intelligent members of my immediate area.

Sorry to hear, Lara. I will send some ice cream over. You can throw it back at Me if you want....

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 27, 2009 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the "runner" is a prominent feature in a lot of twin flame stories. I hope you don't have a runner on your hands. If he's as you have described him, that seems really unlikely. He sounds super evolved and spiritual.

It could be the challenges you have to overcome that are disappointing him. Your primary issue is distance, right? Perhaps that has dampened his expectations of the relationship's longevity.

If you don't want to get into such personal discussions publically, I understand, but like DD, I'm available to talk. I'm surrounding you with love & light...I've read it's very difficult to come into conflict with or have separation from one's twin.

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posted December 27, 2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message
In our synastry, Telephus, Psyche and Neptune are conjunct.

It just always amazes me. We can be in a room full of people, talking to other people, but also having our own conversation telepathically.

I can also hear him talking to other people...I've heard heated arguments with the ex-wife. Now that's something I wish I could turn off.

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I'm so sorry for you Lara...

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Duality2
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posted December 27, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duality2     Edit/Delete Message
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I have telephus conjunct psyche:
Telephus 17' scorpio
Psyche 17' scorpio

I have them conjunct too in scorpio!

I'm interested in what people have to say about this. I only heard about telephus a few days ago reading in one of the threads here.

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
DD I read somewhere telephus be in love in cassandra. She don't want anyone. She was one attractive woman. Thelephus was not the only man in love to her. She reject many men. Many men love her. Because that I believe that when anyone have strong connection from there chart to someones cassandra it must feel as an big love from the person who aspect cassandra. If there are strong connection to cassandra between both chart = mutual love and attraction.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 27, 2009 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Cassandra not only rejected men, she rejected the fairest of the Gods, Apollo...that was her undoing.

But we typically associate the asteroids with the best known characteristics of their myths...Cassandra is best known for being a tragic prophet, not a rejecting lover.

When we see Isis and Osiris aspects, we don't say "Well Isis & Osiris were brother and sister, so you two must have been siblings in a past life..." That's something factual about them, but not what they are known for. We consider that a soulmate aspect because Isis and Osiris were first and foremost soulmates.

I would take a similar approach to Cassandra--she had a lot of crap to deal with when it came to men (and met a tragic end with Agamemnon), but she is famous for her foresight of what Helen would bring and not being believed.

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Starofvenus. When I look at my aunt chart who are 75. She have Sun/Siva/cassandra conj. She are a very buityful woman and have allways been. Her life has not beeing misserable in anyway and she have not damage anyone. Noone in our family can deny the attraction between these two, wife and husband.

I don't say it is in that way. I say it could be one more to use. Could be. I know the attraction between these two. I know the attraction between me and my twin. We also have strong connection to casandra and telephus.

I read she dont want anyone...

So you mean, no man love her?

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DD
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posted December 27, 2009 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Starr of Venus,

I agree completely with your argumentation and reasoning.

The problem is that in any synastry there will be many asteroid aspects.


Ex.
A couple is completely in love with each other.

They happen to have Bablyon conjunct Stonhehenge.
Does that mean that the Babylon-Stonehenge-conjunction is indicative of their deep love for each other?
I don`t think so.

I rather think their ASC/Moon-Venus-conjunction that they also have, might be the more likely reason for their affection for each other.

Of course the Bablyon-Stonehenge connection might still have its significance and meaning; maybe they have had an English or Sumerian past life together, but it is not the indicator for their emotional bond.


But why am I saying it anyway?
In my chart Cassandra is absolutely precisely conjunct DNA and opposing Chiron exact.
Noone would believe me anyway.

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Of course AC/moon and the axes show the affection between people and increase the significance. I don't think it's strange there could be so strong connection between my aunt and hers husband without AC/moon and axes connection. They have lived in soon 60 year togheter. The most happy couple I know. Impressive.

70 percent asteroider connection
30 percent the rest

IQ have some statistics on it.


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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 27, 2009 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
LOL @ DD...you are protesting to the wilderness and I am surrounded by snakes. Sigh.

Popcorn

My diplomatic response is that everyone feels the asteroid energies a bit differently. I am not willing to say that your aunt & uncle's great marriage cannot be attributed to Cassandra/Telephus. While I would first look for other explanations in planetary astrology or better asteroids, it may be that for them, that's what it is. Who am I (or you) to speculate?

The Libra in me has agreed to disagree in lieu of a consensus on this issue LOL.

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
DD. DNA conj cassandra.. . You are a real CASSANDRA. You took up cassandra here. I couldn't get it out of my head

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posted December 27, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Star of venus. Why would not you and me speculate? If no other new people get no new ide there will never be any developing in the life. It restrict everyone.

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DD
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posted December 27, 2009 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I should let it rest, I know. Just like Cassy maybe should have. (or when Apollo came to her, she should have just layed back and think of Troy ).
Just sometimes I can`t.


Popcorn,
70%:30%. Forgive me, but I am VERY suspicious about such calculations.

Also, it is not about the quantity of aspects, but about the qualitiy and how importantly they are placed.

In my experience I also have always found the houserulers to play a very important role, and in terms of soul-relationships it is often the rulers of the water houses, especially in contact to each other or 1st or 7th house.
Aspects of Moon, Neptune, Pluto also usually figure strongly.

Of course this is difficult if you don`t have the birthtime.
So sorry, nope, I don`t believe for a second that Cassandra / Telephus is the main significator for attraction.
I am just stating my opinion here of course.

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comica23
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posted December 27, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
I guess that what iQ meant was that asteroid can show most of the details of what's going on (whether synastry or natal chart), since we humans become more and more complex, that our complex details can no longer be shown only by the planets alone. But I don't think that he thinks (or this is just my own vision) that asteroids would still be more important than the planets itself. While asteroids can show the rest of the details, the planets are still the main things - it's like details will always remain as details, even if the number of details are much more than the main structure. It's like you are mainly you (your chart), yet the asteroids shows the rest of the details - chocolate cake will always be chocolate cake, so even thought the toppings are details that makes certain difference, they still can't change the fact that this is a chocolate cake, and of course, the cake will always be more important than the toppings (unless you like the toppings more lol).

And besides, planets are much bigger and some of them nearer, while asteroids are small asteroids. "As above, as below", so their physical form should matter.

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comica23
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posted December 27, 2009 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
By the way, Stonehenge is conjunct my AC within 3ºdegrees!! Should I be happy or cry about it lolol~

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popcorn
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posted December 27, 2009 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Of course DD and comica. Everyone here know that you describe are the most importent in a chart. It's basic. I've only show my aunt and hers husbands synastry asteroid. They are still in love after soon 60 year.


What's the problem

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