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Topic: Finally found out the Bday of suspected Twin Soul
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 241 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:11 PM
quote: Belage, it does matter which person initiates the relationship, in terms of astrology.While women seem to have problems going up and speaking to a fella, it is only natural, though still all about personal choice. The world works how astrology is set up. Mars is the ACTION, Venus is REACTION. Just in this example. As Mars is ruler of Aries and also 1st house, with Venus ruler Libra and 7th, you can attribute Aries 1st house as Man - initiator and Venus as Woman - receiver. Looking at a composite chart or even 1st meeting chart, whoever initiates the relationship will be house 1 - the Mars role. It doesn't mean they will turn into a Man (if it were a woman) nor does it mean they will control/boss. The first can be about appearance, so the first person to initiate will come off as the "personality" of the relationship.
That's interesting. Thanks Coffee. I am so glad to be learning something new here. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 2289 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:12 PM
oh damn - you don't know his birthtime do you... so that NN on 7th/DC doesn't stand then. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:13 PM
10 degree orb (my Nessus) and 5 degree orb (his Nessus) for Saturn square Nessus.His Saturn squares my ASC exactly, though I have that natally too by 2 degrees. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:14 PM
No Lara, unfortunately not. I suppose I could play around with making him a Taurus rising, if Coffee is right about that.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 2289 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:19 PM
Let me ponder over these and also see what IQ says... for me venus/mars isn't so important cos of the age gap and i don't know what lilith/venus and lilith/valentine means. I just don't like that damn T-square because of the moon and the NN/SN axis both being involved with neptune. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:20 PM
Lara, what do you mean by the age gap? Do you mean that because we were born only a month apart that those planets don't move that quickly?Yeah, I always appreciate IQ's take too! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 2289 From: aspideronmars Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 26, 2009 11:24 PM
I mean cos you were born a month apart you have really similar charts so it's hard to say "this is a soul mate aspect" cos everyone who is born within that month will have it with you That moon at the apex of that T-SQ is just p1ssing me off though!!! Stay tuned IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 01:37 AM
quote: That moon at the apex of that T-SQ is just p1ssing me off though!!!
The more I look at the charts, the more I think I agree with Coffee that it MIGHT be ok because they were both born with that energy and it feels familiar. I don't know. I'm dying to have IQ take a look. I'm getting a special feeling about this one though. I guess we'll see. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 02:01 AM
LOL special in a good way or special in a bad way? It's "As The Asteroids Turn"!IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 02:04 AM
Special in a good way. I'm just going with my intuition on this one, some of which is based on the way you talk about him. IQ could blast me out of the water though LOL. I am a hopeless romantic. My only doubt is the closeness of your ages--I have not looked at too many charts with the parties so close in age so I'm not sure how that affects things. But my gut is telling me it's the real deal...not sure about a Twin but definitely a soulmate of some sort. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 02:39 AM
Thanks StarofVenusGirl! It's strange, even though I've been obsessing about him (well, I've tried to forget about him, only to have dreams about him or have his soul visit me) and really want to be with him, I also know now that it's okay to open my heart to him, to send him love even if I don't get anything back from him. I was so closed off for years, after the abusive ex and low-self esteem for so long, then this year I started feeling that open-heart feeling, and unconditional love, but only in a universal sense, not when it came to individual relationships. I was fine with opening my heart to God and to the World, but opening myself up to a relationship scared me. When I met him, I was very angry at first, because I felt (subconsciously) that I had built was wall over my heart so high, and hear I was very vulnerable and weak and it terrified me. Then later for no real reason I decided he didn't like me, and I flipped out a bit and decided I would never open my heart again, and tried to close the wall again. But it felt so bad to close my heart. I realized finally that if I give love, it isn't wasted, it will come back to me in some form. It isn't good to go through life with a closed heart, living in fear. If I close off my love then I deny myself. I am love, and cannot be hurt by it, for I am eternal. It feels right to love him (not that I'll wait forever for him, maybe I'll have to love him yet move on, and that's okay too, if not preferred). So I am grateful to him for showing me that love is always a good thing, even if nothing more comes of this. My heart is open so much more now and I feel more like 'myself.' I think there must be some sort of bond between us that meeting him allowed me to learn this very important lesson. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 2491 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:18 AM
"It's not necessarily bad, just hard to interpret because what appear to be stellar (no pun intended) aspects might be invalid due to proximity." I never understand why people are saying that. If astrology is valid, it is valid for everyone no matter how close they are born to each other, even if they should have been born on the same day.IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:24 AM
DD, I actually agree but Lara and IQ are much more advanced astrologers than I so I wanted to wait until someone knowledgeable of such matters could take a look. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 2491 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:42 AM
well, I always say: Trust your own gut instinct and logical understanding. Inexperience doesn`t equal a lack of intelligence or talent. As you can see your Moon is closely conjunct his NN, and that is something he doesn`t share with everyone. It hink that might in the very least indicate an emotional bond / connection between the two of you, an almost mother-like caring and nurturing, with you deeply caring for him probably, and him experiencing your caring for him might be important for his lifepath. But from a first glance it looks like there is a dominance of sexual attraction aspects with your Mars conjunct his Sun and Venus and your Eros conjunct his Mars.
I haven`t looked into the Nessus-aspects or squares. But any square to our Moon-NN-conjunction could make it difficult to really express the emotional caring you feel. And Nessus aspects could be prett difficult, not necessarily abusive, but let`s not forget Nessus was very lusty himself, so much as a matter of fact,t hat he didn`t even care for Deijanira saying NO. So have you looked for a square, opposition or conjunction of Nessus to Dejanira or Venus? If there is I would also check the aspects of Lust, especially to Venus or Mars or even Pluto. Maybe there is a too much of sexual energy? IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 933 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 10:47 AM
Hi All, Interesting thread. In the last few months, it has been a privilege for me to learn more about the Soul, its Facets, Soulmates and Twin Flames from real experiences of real people.You cannot feel shy when you meet your twin. You cannot hold back any emotion. Its not just love at first sight but instant soul recognition at first sight. Soul Recognition spanning lifelines. It will dawn in an instant, you can almost feel it like electricity. Your entire soul will transform, every subdued issue will come forth. The pair will become perfect and complete even if hurdles exist to create an immediate union. It is also rare for twin flames to be born so close. I cannot apply too many Asteroid aspects when the age gap is under 40 odd days. One needs the exact birth time, and we must apply Ascendant and Descendent aspects. Moon persona synastry is the only other viable synastry as even Draconic Charts will be quite close.
Yet another clue is the name frequency and date of birth numbers. SOVG, I agree with you that he is a Soulmate, there are clear soulmate aspects. Yes, there is a domination of sexual aspects but it is possible that many important ascendant aspects can be found once the exact birth time is known. He may be the precursor to meeting the actual Twin Flame. He may be the soulmate who will teach you, Shankara to overcome the self-imposed resistance to love after the negative relationships.
The most positive point in the Composite is Pluto extile Venus.
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Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 11:17 AM
Thanks everyone! I agree IQ, I always expected ten when I met Twin, just based on how I aways felt about him when we met astrally, that it would just be "it" and we'd hold each other just like we do in the dreams. I could see how he's supposed to suprissing teach me how to let my wall down for real twin. It's to me it's surprising about the multitude of sexual aspects, as it's the other instructor that I feel the lust without deep emotion for, more lust than for 'S." But either way, I felt twin again today, so to me it's not a question of if I'm really feeling him, but if he's really S or not. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 728 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 12:30 PM
hi Shankarai know a way where you can get his birth thime. i did this once with Amisha,who is now LuvinU from the forum of the readings. one day i asked her the time birth of a perosn,and i describer the personīs history and things like that. she gave me the personsīs date and time birth. why dont you try to ask her?she is very kind on offering her help. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 01:18 PM
Thanks Diandra...so this person is on the personal readings board on this site?IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 01:18 PM
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Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 03:46 PM
On another thread that I posted about another guy, someone on there mentioned progressions. I'm not that apt at progressions, but I see that S's progressed Venus is at Leo 23 and his progressed Mars is at Leo 24, whereas my natal Venus is at Leo 26 and natal Mars at Leo 29.So does that mean that because his progressed Mars is conjuncting my natal Venus at resent, he is the Mars person, or am I still the Mars person as my natal Mars conjuncts his natal Venus? IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 03:50 PM
Oh, I also see that my progressed Eros is conjuncting his natal Sun and Venus, and his progressed Eros is opposing my Ascendent/conjuncting my Descendant.IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 728 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 03:50 PM
yes,she is on the personal readings.i believe tat i f you ask,and explain your story,she will help IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 03:51 PM
Conjunct Venus/Mars in the progressions too?Now THAT is interesting... As far as you being Venus or Mars...I don't know LOL. That's a good question. I would say you are still Mars, since the progressions are temporary and will change over time, but your natal synastry is permanent. That's my thought anyway. IP: Logged |
Shankara Knowflake Posts: 183 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 10:40 PM
Thanks...ok well I guess I better go out and get my man then! LOLIP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 10:49 PM
If it's his Mars in the progressed chart, then he might be the one who's pursuing in the moment. Although I feel that the Venus person would also feel the attraction. X3IP: Logged |