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posted January 03, 2010 09:01 AM            

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posted January 03, 2010 09:16 AM            

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Things happen in peoples lives and there is no need to feel embarassed about things. Everybody has problems and problems need to be worked out and resolved.

This is a healer aspect and you have your own sense of timing with the time in life than the others around you. With the Sun involved with Chiron - it would be more a fatherly influence than a motherly one. Moon Chiron would be a mother influence or even Venus Chiron.

I have Sun con Chiron as welll, but mine is involved in an extremely tight T square,

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posted January 03, 2010 09:54 AM            

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How has your chiron affected your life, Cynnard ? Thanks for your response!

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posted January 03, 2010 10:00 AM              

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There are many people who suffer abuse at the hands of the people that are supposed to love them. It is a really sick and wrong thing.
What does 'N husband' mean?
I have Saturn retrograde in detriment in Cancer tight conjunct my ascendent. So i know a little of what you've been through Ami. Chiron i read somewhere is related to Saturn.
What does your whole chart look like Ami?

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posted January 03, 2010 10:02 AM            

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I have this too - but it's 5 degrees, which I think is too wide for Chiron. It's also 1 degree conjunct my AC.

I don't attribute it that strongly to any of the difficulties in my life. Probably mostly insecuriites about looks. That's probably the biggest manifestation for me.

I've read that it's a healer placement too.

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posted January 03, 2010 11:53 AM            

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I know Chiron well. It's conjunct my sun 2 degrees, and my Moon within 3 -- as I have a Sun Moon conjunction. I've had pain and loss concerning both parents. My mother was taken away from me when I was 3 and my father pretty much ran away. When I was 5 I was finally reunited with my mother, though it's always been an uphill battle. She's had considerable difficulty most of her life. Our relationship has always been close, though the roles have been reversed mostly with me mothering as well. As far as my father, later in my teens and early adulthood, we had time to get to know one another as people and try to repair some of the pain and lost time.

I think one of the lessons you learn with this aspect is that we are all flawed to some respect. No one is perfect. It's not so much about holding onto how something should "be" and having expectations...but learning to embrace what you have and being able to appreciate what IS.

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posted January 03, 2010 12:45 PM            

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Dear PDF
I don't know how to post a chart but I put my planets on the thread about why we came to this site. Thank you for any insight. I know that you are a professional with your upcoming writing career. I appreciate any insights.

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posted January 03, 2010 02:46 PM            

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Dear PDF
An N husband is a Narcissist.

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posted January 03, 2010 03:02 PM            

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Just re-reading the thread and feeling less alone.
PDF--I appreciate you sharing that!
Thank you Peace Angel and Astrobelle !

I think I have been in s small world thinking I had it the "worst". It is nice to share with you! xxxoo Ami Ann

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posted January 03, 2010 03:48 PM            

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I'd have to look at the rest of your chart. I don't believe the situations you mentioned are due to or represented solely by Chiron/Sun conjunction.

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posted January 03, 2010 03:58 PM            

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posted January 03, 2010 04:07 PM            

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Ami, I am confused. Do you have the right data? In that year, Chiron was hovering at the end of Capricorn and beginning of Aquarius. There is NO WAY it would have been conjunct your Gemini sun.

ETA: As a matter of fact, on the day of your birth, Chiron was at 4 degrees of Aquarius. If you're Libra rising, Chiron was probably on the cusp of your 4th house of Children which is natally opposed by Jupiter, and by Uranus (by a wide angle) which might explain the unfortunate loss of your child. By the way, chiron rules wounds that never heal, and to me, losing a child would be a wound that never heals. My heart truly goes out to you.

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posted January 03, 2010 04:40 PM              

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Ami - i'm not a professional. I'm a blagger. I promote myself well and take opportunities when they arise. My writing is good though. I don't write on here properly, just as if i'm speaking. But when i write properly it's done proffesionally.

There are alot of people on here who have had serious problems. I think it's what draws us close together. I know there's alot of bickering - heck i start most of it. But overall the flavour here is one of mutual curiosity, and hopefully spiritual growth through joining forces. People open up here and reveal their inner most secrets. I've done it, you've done it. When that happens i take that person very seriously because they are reaching out.

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posted January 03, 2010 04:52 PM              

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I might be wrong here, but may I ask what aspects are made to your Moon, since if I remember right the Moon in our charts represents our Mother and the Sun our Father.

Though that is what I read from some astrology snippit online(Im really novice at these things lol), sorry if the gender roles offends anyone.

Also you can go to astro.com and make a chart.^.^

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posted January 03, 2010 05:05 PM              

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Edit: I posted the basic chart from astro.com X_X, I apologise Im not good at reading charts and people here on LL sometimes use asteriods, I would not know which ones to choose in this case, hopefully a more experinced LL member can do that.

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posted January 03, 2010 05:06 PM            

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My father is a tyrant who had no patience with me (Negative side of Aries is being brasive with no patient, wants things done now). Imagine Gordon Ramsey's kitchen persona dealing with a toddler learning to talk and that is my dad.

T square with Chiron is Conj Sun, square mars and opposite Uranus.

My father was not the reliable type and was not there when I was growing up. When I would go and visit him he would be elsewhere - at the bar drinking it up with his friends. If I had a problem in life he would yell at me.

With your moon close to Chiron, I can see how your mom is tied into things.

I have a cancer moon too

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posted January 03, 2010 06:40 PM            

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Wow (((Guys)) All these wonderful responses. Thank you PDF, Belange, Kat and Cynnard.
That is the right chart Kat. Thank you.
I don't feel so alone. I am glad I shared!
xxxoo Ami

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posted January 03, 2010 08:05 PM            

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posted January 03, 2010 08:27 PM            

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Thanks for sharing (((Teasel))). I can relate to depression, anxiety and agrophobia. I can relate to a constant sense of bad. This is the worst part, I think.It feels like an unremitting sense that you can never be better cuz you ARE defective and bad. You have to hide it cuz you don't want anyone to see . The shame of others seeing would be too hard to bear so you hide under looking like you "should.
It is sooo painful. xxxoo Ami Ann

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posted January 03, 2010 08:30 PM            

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Dear Cynnard
How does your Cancer moon manifest in your life?

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posted January 03, 2010 08:41 PM            

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Ami.
I'm going to delete my post at some point (I just don't like to have it out there for too long), but I realized that it looked as though I'd ignored your post. I meant to add a hug in above, but got caught up in the thinking about transits.

to everyone else, too.

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posted January 03, 2010 09:24 PM            

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umm, am I the only one who doesn't see n.chiron conjunct sun here?

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posted January 03, 2010 09:35 PM            

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I was wrong ! I was bummed out all day that I would never overcome Chiron conjunct my sun and now I find I don't have it after all.
Could someone help me see if there are hard aspects between my Mother and me. If not, how could the relationship be so hard? This is a simple question, I know, but I would like to put it out for your opinions. Thank you xxoo Ami

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posted January 03, 2010 09:37 PM            

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Dear Teasel
I know how scary it feels to be vulnerable. Thank you for sharing, though. It helped me.
xxxoo Ami

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posted January 03, 2010 09:41 PM            

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You have Moon inconjunct Chiron, and have Saturn square Pluto (not a nice aspect).

My head is hurting, but I'll have a better look at your chart later (though I doubt I'll be that helpful). Maybe someone else can help you.

You'll also want to look at the transits for those times.

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