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Topic: Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 06, 2010 11:21 PM
 
OMG doesnt everyone with a personal planet in leo have this ?  Starting with myself - Venus in leo  Here are some of the wonderful traits of this disorder that people find WRONG :O To qualify you must have 5 or more of the following...
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) requires excessive admiration has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes These people are also referred to as emotional vempires... ------------------
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Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 623
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 01:23 AM
Are you starting a support group?  IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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From: Australia
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posted January 07, 2010 01:32 AM
I mainly know Leo mooners close to those descriptions  ENTITLEMENT is the first word that comes to mind :P
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Anicia
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posted January 07, 2010 02:32 AM
I'm a Leo Sun. I have my moments.
My Father has a Leo ASC. He has his moments.My niece is a triple Leo (Sun, Moon, ASC - Moon conjunct ASC) & sister is a Leo Moon conjunct Leo ASC.
They're the worst. Emotionally, they just CRAVE the attention. They're very impulsive and it comes off not-so-appealing most of the time. BUT they can be very warm and most of the time they mean well. I'm not so close to my sister but I still love her. IP: Logged |
belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 02:41 AM
LOL I love the picture I happn to like those leo qualities i think its funny and i love how people are all about me type of people. I think thats a good thing. I just dont understand why theyve made it into a disorder. My best friend Pamela and PredFire are leo moons and i love their moon placement.
I guess it goes good with my venus in leo and gemini moon. IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
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From: Australia
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posted January 07, 2010 02:51 AM
I get what you mean Belgz, well I'm starting too.I usually have great fun with Leo women & I always manage to play court jester to their queen lol. I'm Sag Moon = can't bloody help it. The problem I have experienced is that Leo cannot be so humble in admitting their flaws like the rest of humanity. It prevents me (Venus Scorpio) from truly getting close as I desire, to know them inside & out. My X is Cancer Sun Leo Venus & ASC so I don't have to tell you how that worked out. The only thing we had going for us was the sex (Mars & Venus conjunction) & that just ain't good enough to keep it together in my book. So let me all the way in or fuk off I say. Harsh but that's how I am & I'm not going to change. IP: Logged |
belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
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posted January 07, 2010 03:27 AM
I think leo LOVES it to be all or nothing. They love that. I know for a fact that unless leo is disrespected they never disrespect yuo either. But cancer moodiness and leo bossiness isnt good at all. That might be a different case altogether lol I have people who are too selfish and too stuck in themselves but lots of leos are really easy going and VERY LOYAL. I started talking to a guy from America who was a cancerian with leo rising and he was the most self centred person ive ever known. I couldnt believe how he thought the world and my world should revolve around him. Initially the attention he gave in return and his venus gemini appealed to me but after i realised he was way too selfish i ranaway. He would do these leo tactics where he would try and make me jealous by telling me how other girls find him attractive. Thats what i used to do and i didnt like it being done to me.. IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted January 07, 2010 05:10 AM
so you learnt not to do that to others then?? I get that though... it comes from a place of insecurity... and I don't do it as much as I did when I was a teenager...but I thought Leos weren't insecure The sun literally shines out of their arse heheheheheh (I mean that in the nicest way!) IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
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From: Wonderland
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 05:21 AM
I have Venus Rx, Mercury Rx, Jupiter in Leo..I have low self-esteem but that low self-esteem makes me focus on all that bad traits in myself, so in a way I am narcissistic because I focus my energy on how bad of a person I am or come across and I feel I do not deserve much and I always putting myself down or I am hard on myself.. This is extremely annoying part of myself.. All in all I like Leos, they are my favorite fixed sign. IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted January 07, 2010 05:29 AM
Cheshire! *pout* what about Tauruses? Focusing energy on yourself isn't narcisistic though, its the total lack of empathy for others and always doing things to get yourself ahead without thinking of other's feelings, or even exploiting their feelings for your own advantage that would make you narcissitic. If we weren't all "narcisistic" a bit then I don't think we'd get on in life!! We can learn a lot from Leos Maybe you have piscean/neptune energy prominent in your chart? IP: Logged |
belgz
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 05:30 AM
I see myself as someone with alot of confidence. I dont have any self esteem issues either, but for some reason i like making them jealous. I love a reaction. I love testing my limits, learning what makes them tick and i do rate their reaction. If they cant handle it i wont do it. It adds some spice to it. Well so i thought it did till it happened to me.IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
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From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 05:49 AM
Re the jealousy game, I can see in hindsight why the x would do that.he would start fights with me about jealousy & I don't mean that he or I had done something but just brought up in conversation. We would end up infuriating each other & not speak for ages because in his mind you didn't love someone if you weren't jealous & to me it's the opposite ie you love, then you trust. So now I understand why he would go out of his way to antagonize me with this particular issue. He did finally succeed i making me jealous once..............
He never did it again. 
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Cheshire Kat
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posted January 07, 2010 06:11 AM
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1165
From: Sydney, Australia
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posted January 07, 2010 06:29 AM
LoL.. Hahaha.I dont get jealous. My ex b.f would sometimes secretly try and look at a girls in short skirts. I used to think it was cute. But i trusted him alot because i knew he loved me alot..well i assumed he did but If it was any other guy i wouldve left him. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 08:38 AM
Guys---Narcissism is a Personality Disorder.
If you have known a Narcissist , it is not a Leo description.
It is a person who stopped maturing at a young age and acts like a 5 year old in an adult body.
The wreak so much damage especially if you have the misfortune of being a child of them .
I wish I had more Leo qualities! xxoo AmiIP: Logged |
Cynnared
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posted January 07, 2010 08:39 AM
A few months ago I put a thread up about this topic.....if somebody could find it - it has more ideas on the thread.IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25
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posted January 07, 2010 09:22 AM
HMM i think that depends on the chart.ive got venus and mars in Leo in 11h. it doenst make me narcissist whatsoever. i even dont have a high self esteem or think im superior to others.i learned that we are unique always,each and every one of us. empathy....and compassion :those are my middle names. Envy...well many envy me,but i do not envy others. sometimes i do dream and fantasize a lot but that is all about my Neptune in the 3rd. i know a person who seems to have the narcisist type personality and he had Stellium in Virgo and also in Libra...no Leo at all. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted January 07, 2010 09:29 AM
What happens with the N is that they stop developing at an early age cuz of some trauma. They shut down like you do when you go in to shock. They treat the world as a toddler does--Mine, Mine. Everything is a competition for their sense of self.
When anyone else does better at something, they feel less than cuz they have no true sense of self that allows them to feel OK about who they are.
I know this cuz I have been on an N Board for over 3 years.
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 1165
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 09:32 AM
Actually if i look at these symptoms in a negative way i could say my mother has all of them. She thinks the world owes it to her. She thinks shes a force to be reckoned with. Shes a gemini, aries moon, cancer rising. Mars in virgo and venus in gemini.
She has serious issues.IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted January 07, 2010 09:45 AM
Well, My M is an N and a practicing therapist. How do you them apples???I am just now trying to recover from her-- from my mouth to God's ear. The main thing that makes it so hard with an N parent is that they don't see you. It is all about how they feel. You are there to make them feel good. You are not a person in your own right. If you don't make them feel good, they pull out all the ammunition and go nuclear on you---URRGGH.
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Astra
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posted January 07, 2010 12:08 PM
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He would do these leo tactics where he would try and make me jealous by telling me how other girls find him attractive. Thats what i used to do and i didnt like it being done to me..
I had a guy friend who tried to do the exact same thing to me! He would constantly talk about all the girls who found him vastly attractive and thought he looked like a male model. I just smiled politely, but didn't comment on it. I knew he was trying to make me jealous. I find Leos to just be very warm and sweet. If someone is sweet, generous, loyal and honest, I have no problem stroking their ego a bit, provided that they aren't directly fishing for compliments. All they have to do is just be their awesome self and I'll happily shower them with praise.
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WinkAway
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From: The great beyond
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posted January 07, 2010 02:40 PM
OMG that is sooo my ex. He's a Leo.He has his issues and we were together for almost ten years, so I think I "get" him better than anyone. But even though we've been divorced for over 3 years, he still feels the need to control me.
He will call me and call me and continue to call me if I don't respond. Once he called me 5 times during the day and left wierd messages like "are you mad at me or something?"...lol
It doesn't bother me, I just blow it off, but it p1sses other people off who hear about it.. He's done a lot for me when I was down, so I guess I kind of put up with him... IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
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posted January 07, 2010 02:42 PM
It's funny because my dad who has this, along with schizophrenia etc lol, is Leo rising with Pluto conjunct Saturn conjunct his Ascendent.
What a wonderful man he is too.  ------------------
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amowls*
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From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2010 02:46 PM
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I just dont understand why theyve made it into a disorder.
because of these:
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her I don't see how these could be considered good traits. I wouldn't want to be around someone like this. IP: Logged |
evander
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posted January 07, 2010 03:31 PM
it's one of borderline disorders. there's a narcissistic personality, and then there is the severe version of it. nothing wrong with a little narcissism, but not being able to give yourself fully to anyone actually isn't as much fun I had an astrological theory on it a long long time ago. and for the recored it has more to do with virgo then with leo ... it's that whole thing "i'm everybody's but really i'm nobody's" ... leo is highly egoistical not narcissistic, in my humble opinion IP: Logged |
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