posted January 27, 2010 08:08 PM         

I'm thinking afflicted Neptune is definitely one of them.

Your thoughts?

posted January 27, 2010 09:30 PM         

Raymond

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posted January 27, 2010 11:11 PM         

I love story telling

And i have a great imagination and my gemini moon thinks i come up with lies quite quicky if i have to HAHAHAHA..

posted January 27, 2010 11:47 PM         

I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune in Sagittarius with 1'23 orb

I have Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition so that I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint with 17 minutes of arc.

Raymond

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posted January 28, 2010 02:59 AM         

Put that up in neon.

posted January 28, 2010 03:03 AM         

Mercury opposite Neptune does not encourage lying at all. It will stifle psychic or empathy development by providing an overdose of skepticism, depending on the house position.

Precise Mercury square Neptune is certainly a red flag (again depending on house positions), but Moon square Neptune is a Self Deception and Self Confusion aspect.
The Moon square Neptune does not have direct negative intentions to deceive, deception just happens owing to lack of emotional clarity, and projection of self confusion.

In my life experience, Pisces Moon men with a Neptune square have the biggest challenge in overcoming self-confusion. Once they manage, they make a 180 degree turn and turn to selfless social service. Three of my closest relatives have a reasonably afflicted Pisces Moon.

A dangerous deceiver may be "gifted" with many of these aspects:
1. Pluto conj Moon in 3rd or 6th
2. Mercury conj Asteroid SWINDLE
3. SWINDLE trine Asteroid LIE
4. Neptune conj Asteroid LIE or SWINDLE
5. Moon conj LIE/SWINDLE in 3rd square Neptune
6. Pluto conj LIE or SWINDLE square Moon

If you want a chart potential that is of a no nonsense person who hates lying/deception, just seek out an Aries Ascendant with many planets in Fire.

In the past 4 years, I have analyzed not less than fifteen Aries Risers. Quite a few shortcomings here and there but deception was non-existent. But then, none of them had any of the 6 sample red flags mentioned above.

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posted January 28, 2010 04:47 AM         

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The Natal Chart clearly showcases our potentials. And yes, there are astrological aspects that will encourage the native to utilize lying and deception, until Saturn does his job. These natives may then change from being dishonest to being straightforward. I totally disagree that this subject is a dead end. Thousands of people will save their cash if they avoid Insurance agents and politicians with astrological aspects that aid deception.

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can you expect a professional astrologer LIVING FINANCIALLY OF ASTROLOGICAL ADVICES to say differently?

diferrently put, is it everyone interest to challenge the roots of the detrministic attitude of astrology? or some people are entitled to their say because they perpetuate a certain belief system that advantages them?

where does deceiving start?

posted January 28, 2010 05:42 AM         

I have been doing 10 full fledged Free readings every month plus lost count of how many answers/exact solutions given freely, you see only the tip of the iceberg in this forum.

You do the math. Or atleast try doing what I do for one day if you can, and then make your rude comments. Have rarely seen you usefully helping anyone in Astrology2 Forum. I detect a very jealous streak in you. This is the 4th or 5th time you have tried to unilaterally attack me, usually I ignore you but I think todays false insinuation went too far. How would you feel if I called you a racist without any foundation? How does it feel if gays are attacked or molested without reason?

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posted January 28, 2010 05:52 AM         

politicians too
for that matter

hahahahahaa

Raymond

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posted January 28, 2010 08:23 AM         

I've often noticed that Pisces can be quite self-deceptive or self-delusional in that they don't lie to be malicious or to avoid getting in trouble; they lie to themselves. Perhaps it's the Neptune influence making clarity nebulous.

posted January 28, 2010 10:02 AM         

IQ's info, interpretations and advice is SO good he SHOULD be getting paid for it, its almost a crime he isn't getting paid as much as the bogus computer generated crap out there on the net considering the wealth in his content.

He (and Glaucus, but him in this specific situation) helps out ANYONE who asks a question, no matter what it is and gives them an essay load of information they could really use and apply. His Q&A threads are proof of this. And he gives his opinion which is worthy because of his considerable and formidable knowledge on astrology and asteroids. I personally do not follow them at all but i still read anything IQ writes because of the wealth of content.

And as well as his endless contributions to LL, there's his info that he's put up on the web for anyone to read and frankly, the prices that are being asked are an absolute pittance compared to his knowledge and authentic desire to help ppl out with questions relating to astrology.

Also, think of it like this..(well i do) think about how much of his time he needs to give up to sit there at a computer, look at charts, look them up, interpret them, write it all up...it would take hours and hours of his time and i doubt ppl would say thank you on the whole for that.

Propz to IQ!!

posted January 28, 2010 10:24 AM         

that is an awful,nasty,rude and absolutely non.necessary comment.

you come here only to judge and quite franqly,did you ever made a useful comment here?one that was helping,generous,free and welcomed?

Hmmm let me think...no!

So..why dont you start to be the best that you can,by starting to look at your own faults and apologize for the things that you said?

IQ surely dont deserve the words cause everybody here knows that he gives readings for free here in LL for so many times now.

and also..he is much better than any astrologer ive ever seen - not only professionaly,but also in humanity.

It is a complete injustice that IQ doenst live fully of his readings...they dont have price really...cause what he gives people doenst really have a price....it is huge and unique.

GUYS . LET´S make publicity in all our Profiles like hi5,facebook etc to IQ´s readings.

posted January 28, 2010 03:57 PM         

I believe astrology is essentially dynamics of archetypal and universal concepts. lying and deceiving are not an archetype, they are only human relationship's tools. not essential truth that pervades the universe.

posted January 28, 2010 04:40 PM         

Her swindle and lie conjunct her Mercury and Neptune in her 1st house in SAG.
she also has venus conjunct neptune in 1st in SAG. and her lilith is conjunct her venus and neptune as well.

I read somewhere that Lilith conjunct venus makes someone ugly, not so much on the outside but within. Maybe because she lies to herself (first house) Mercury is the ruler of her seventh house (partnerships) and Neptune is the ruler of her 4th house( family, roots) opp her saturn in her seventh house ruler of her third ( communications).

posted January 28, 2010 05:36 PM         

I wont say anything about the comments about IQ and Raymond because i am new in the site. not much experience, but Raymond has post a very interesting comment on on of my posts. Anyway, I appreciate the time they and others take to see and help other less advanced.

to continue with the main topic

my moon and my mercury (in gemini) are in quinqux with neptune. actually mercury makes an exact angle with neptune.it is only square that counts?

i dont consider myself a deceiver or any of the like (i guess is my well aspected jupiter with my sun, my mars and my AC???) my saturn is also well aspected with a trine with the moon and mercury

....but, but, but I KNOW HOW TO LIE. That is why is easy for me to spot a lier. I dont know how to explain it, but i feel that if i want to deceive i can do it easily. it is like i can make the story and believe it myself, so it can become very true. does somebody know what i mean?