posted February 08, 2010 09:17 PM         

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Shadow - can you narrow it down to just conjunctions and oppositions with 2' applying and 1' separating please?
Those are the important ones.

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Well personally I think all of them are equally important. :P But when in Rome...

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Whoa those orbs are terribly tight. And I thought I was being strict with my 3-degree orbs. :P

posted February 08, 2010 10:03 PM         

Here 'tis:

posted February 08, 2010 10:21 PM         

Just noticed that our First Meeting charts ALL have ASC in Leo... and Sun either on or near the DC... interesting...

posted February 08, 2010 10:39 PM         

hanakin - Here is an alternate chart for my first meeting, using a time of 15 minutes earlier than in the first chart I posted. (Maybe it reflects my relationship more?):

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posted February 09, 2010 03:43 AM         

you are pretty right.

"neptune at the ic makes it a very deep a little bit psychic meeting"
Add to that surreal.

"...the mc ruler the sun is in house five (love creation fun) there is not particular aspect to a long lasting planet such as saturn, also it squares jupiter... not the outcome one would want."
It`sp retty descriptive of the real encounter.
I had been seeing a musical and I was so enthused about it that I spontaneously decided to wait for a particular performer and thank him for a great evening and let him know that I enjoyed the show immensely, which I did. And that was pretty unusual for me, I don`t do this very often (actually I think I may have done this maybe 3 times in my life only).
So the emphasis here was on fun, creativity and entertainment.
And of course there was nothing lasting about it, beyond the 10 minutes we chatted.

"moon mars a very attractive meeting square neptune? someone was deceived or something is deceitful."
There was some kind of "spark", yes, but I was very very aware to not fall prey to any kind of illusions, dreams or deluding myself.
Also, maybe Neptune relates to the "glamorous" atmosphere of theatre, too?
Neither actively deceived the other, I think.

" also see power struggles."
Hmm, since this was just a very short meeting, there were no power struggles.
Just a nice, little chat and a handshake. That was all.

posted February 09, 2010 05:47 AM         

exactly. A 1' orb is plenty sufficient. After all it's a transiting moment not a continual vibe.

If one allowed a wider orb then there would be so many connections you wouldn't know where to look!

posted February 09, 2010 07:31 AM         

this is a very flighty and difficult start energies fly in every different areas.

The one thing which is for sure though is that the sun stands next to the mc in gemini who's ruler mercury stands in the tenth so i would see it as still going

jupiter who rules both the ic and Descendant squares neptune...which would mean that the relationship has difficulties to settle in a routine or a way for both people to feel "at ease" with one another.

the sun opposing pluto makes it a very challenging partnership as power struggles will be showing when the sun opposes pluto

the moon opposing mercury some one is extremely nervous especially when the opposition is perfect than the words will come out.
I see nonetheless due to the moon trine venus that this meeting is a really sweet one; good sensitivity between the people

posted February 09, 2010 08:16 AM         

thank you for your analysis

wel i see where nep appears hihi ´we´re long distance,and the relationship is going on our 3rd and half year time.

so you only look at 1ºaspect then.i also see where the power struggles comes from time to time-it is due to each other pull the other to the place living now

there is something which i wanted to ask you also: each relationship has a 1stmeeting chart,then it has a chart of when get intimate,overrulling the other one,and then there it is the chart of marriage or joiing together in home.

posted February 09, 2010 08:33 AM         

note that there is still an aspect from nept/venus that implies some idealization.

posted February 09, 2010 09:47 AM         

that if the relationship takes onto another level,than the chart of when it happens,its influences become stronger than the ones of the chart before.

this is a subject which is not so discussed,i guess it takes a research to see what really represents reality better.

maybeif IQ passes by he could say his conclusions,as he has a database and has several years of practise.

posted February 09, 2010 09:47 AM         

Interesting how you have Moon in the 3rd-- did you talk about feelings? There is so much going on in the 8th house, and so many aspects to Pluto I would think that it was a very "heavy" first meeting. Perhaps communication about deep, dark matters? Somehow i get the image of therapist and troubled patient.

posted February 09, 2010 09:52 AM         

No, because they're two different matters. First meeting is supposed to give you insight into the possibilities of the relationship, and demonstrate first impressions.

posted February 09, 2010 09:58 AM         

so in that perspective,all the charts do influence at the same time?

ive seen many times people trying to pick a date for a wedding just to get good aspects.So,if for example the 1st meeting chart suggests something extremely negative,by choosing a good date of wedding,it implies nonetheless,that the possible negative event will happen,the same way?

posted February 09, 2010 12:06 PM         

My transits on this day:

His transits on this day:

posted February 09, 2010 12:29 PM         

with my chart:

-Tr Kaali on GC conjunct my Sun and Mercury
-Tr Chiron conjunct my Isis and Osiris
-TR Karma conjunct my Sun-Moon-mp
-Tr Karma opposite my Vertex and Eros
-Tr Neptune and Tr Eros conjunct my Pallas
-Tr Uranus conjunct my BML
-Tr Valentine conjunct my Pholus
-Tr Mercury conjunct my Jupiter
-Tr Isis and Tr BML exactly on my IC-Aura-conjunction!
-Tr Moon exactly conjunct my Actor, POM and Eros-Psyche-mp
-Tr Saturn and Tr Vesta conjunct my DESC and SN
-Tr SAturn and Tr Vesta oppospite my Neptune
-Tr Jupiter exact opposing my Venus
-Tr Juno opposite my Moon

with his chart:
-Tr Neptune and Tr Eros conjunct his Saturn
-Tr Uranus exact on his Kaali-Union-conjunction
-Tr Uranus opposing his Uranus-Osiris
-Tr Valentine conjunct his Jupiter
-Tr Mercury conjunct his Chiron
-Tr Mercury and Tr Osiris opposite his Pluto
-Tr Isis and Tr BML conjunct his Mercury-Eros-conjunction
-Tr Moon conjuncts his Karma precisely
-Tr Saturn and Tr Vesta conjunct his Vesta (well, that means he was having a Vesta-Return that day!)
-Tr Juno exactly conjunct his NN
-Tr Psyche conjunct his Pluto
-Tr Pholus opposite his Moon
-Tr Angel conjunct his BML
(He had been having an Angel-Return a few days previously)
-Tr Karma opposite his Destinn

Transits to the composite:

- Tr Karma on the ASC
-Tr Karma opposing Destinn
-Tr Uranus precisely conjunct Valentine-Pholus-conjunction
-Tr Valentine conjunct Venus-Jupiter-conjunction
-Tr Sun conjunct Chiron
-Tr Sun opposing uranus
-Tr Isis and TR BML conjunct Moon
-Tr Venus precisely conjunct SN
-Tr Vesta and Tr Saturn opposing BML (on MY NN)
-Tr Juno opposing Union
-Tr Angel exactly conjunct Pluto

posted February 09, 2010 04:01 PM         

leo rising also... but the sun falls in the seventh house.. so the sun definitely is looking to settle.
For a relationship

unfortunately the sun only gets negative square to him.

To the moon in taurus which doesn't have the same hopes and pluto which makes it hard to establish something.

The moon nearly opposes pluto ... which will make a full opposition... one will try and manipulate the other into doing what they want the other to be doing.

That makes a very intense meeting... I think it's a not shared love?

posted February 09, 2010 04:06 PM         

also a leo rising meeting... also the sun in the 7th house conjuncting venus ... mars in the first.

hehehehe i would that one recognised the other one as a possible partner the axis rulers

sun for the rising, mars for the mc, uranus and saturn for the desc and venus for the IC

posted February 09, 2010 04:07 PM         

yes this rising is more correct considering the relationship that came after.

posted February 09, 2010 04:14 PM         

jupiter at the rising.. in cancer.trine the sun in the 8th

it was humourous gay and friendly
jupiter only forms good aspects now to the axis rulers

mars, moon, venus and saturn
the sun will be squaring saturn... one of you wouldn't accept the feelings and be cold

which broke the other's neptunian fantasies
the moon in 4 makes it very realistic yet hoping for settling down.. mars in good aspect in the 10th house which sextiles uranus... a sudden change of opinion