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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2010 08:32 AM
Lara,also one thing. Gemini is in your 3rd house, and since 3rd house is the house of communication, these traits may become pretty obvious to people around you. I have a certified birthtime with 7:07, which gives me an ascendant on 7 Sagittarius. When I was a little older than 2 years old I nearly drowned. At that time SA ASC had been conjunct my natal Neptune PLus SA Mars was exactly conjunct my ASC. IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2010 08:44 AM
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posted February 22, 2010 10:01 AM
That is really telling, Lara. And another hint that this is your real ASC. Geo,
can aspects to the MC also signify breakups? IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2010 11:09 AM
It is!!!I woke up full of the joys of spring this morning  So happy  IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2010 01:04 PM
Hi Lara,It's totally fair. I can't take responsibility for the rectification of your chart, I onlyl gave it a rigorous testing. I put your Ascendant on the astrological version of "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" and it won!! I think I originally did it to prove it was wrong, but all the big bells kept ringing with every Solar Arc and every outer planet transit to the ASC and, very importantly, the MC; so it turned out that I was just confirming that your original astrologer hit the nail on the head with this. If he or she doesn't mind, you may want to give him/her the publicity by naming them. Also, I totally didn't expect so much praise. It feels wonderful, thank you everyone for all the compliments. DD, you asked if Solar Arcs to the MC can signify a break-up. I wouldn't rule it out, but it's not something I would look for while being presented with a chart for consultation. If you see a Solar Arc to the MC during a break up, it could be a signal of some other situation and the break-up is part of the fall-out from a particular situation, such as a job or career change or a paternal issue. If you see a break up with a strong Solar Arc to the MC, make sure that you're not missing a simultaneous SA or transit to the ASC, DSC or the DSC ruler; the 11th House ruler or even the 5th House ruler. Last but not least, don't forget to check the Sun/Moon midpoint (or other relationship oriented midpoints). There's usually more than one thing happening at the same time with Solar Arcs and transits. IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2010 01:32 PM
You are a sweetheart Geocosmic  The astrologers name is "Meri Axinn". She is on Facebook and is a friend of a good friend. She lives in NYC and used to own a mystic bookstore.
This is her INFO SECTION on FB! Astrology chart interpretation and teaching: Chart interpretation - general analysis of the natal chart. Also, solar returns, progressed charts, Fixed Stars, Arabic Parts. These are specific techniques that give unique information for each chart - the antithesis of newspaper horoscopes, though they are fun to read and I do read mine every day! Horary - Questions answered, occurrences clarified Synastry - Relationship information Election - best days for travel, beginnings, events ... Often karmic issues appear in the readings. In Western Astrology, this refers to spiritual evolution, moral responsibility and ethical consequences - a lesson, not punishment. Teaching NCGR certification Level I over 30 years experience Have done readings in New York City New Jersey, California England, Ireland and Italy In person, by phone or on Skype Any problems finding her, let me know as i don't want to put her email up on a public forum without her permission.  IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2010 02:50 PM
Thank you, Geo,that was what I thought. So I have to do it all over again.  Problem is, I know the ascendant sign, but not the exact degree, and I do not have so much inside information. I am trying nevertheless. Would you look over it and tell me what you think of my rectification attempts? IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2010 03:04 PM
I can't promise because it is so time consuming. I can try, but first I'd like to know how you came to know what the exact rising sign is?You really have to ask the right questions and get answers to all of them in order to get the process going. The video that someone uploaded on this thread is an incredible crash course on how to rectify a chart. I'm not sure if the video lists the questions, but if you go to Lauryn Delsack's website, I think she lists the questions as a part of her own rectification services. I hope I didn't go overboard in explaining this. With Lara's chart, she already had the work completely done, I just tested it and even that took lots of time. But put up the chart and I'll see what I can see. IP: Logged |
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posted February 22, 2010 03:08 PM
Yes, the video is very good.. i watched it as we looked at all my dates  It does take time - and if you don't know a rough time then it's very difficult even with all these dates. Most people don't remember dates that well. Geocosmic valentine, you were very selfless with your time in helping me confirm that birth time and i wouldn't have known where to start without you. DD, write a list of dates (make sure they are accurate) and then check them all by printing off each chart and comparing. This is the only way i did it last night LOL
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posted February 22, 2010 03:12 PM
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posted February 22, 2010 03:29 PM
I have this too and I think it's partially responsible for why my life is horribly wrong. The uranus being exactly on my MC must 'help' too.I seem to have lost my direction in life. I'm young and I used to have all these thoughts and tried, now I do nothing. I moved ALOT from 5-18 and my home life is chaotic bc my mum is a typical scorpio and my dad is one too... Who screams and shouts at every little thing. Sigh. What can I do?
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 22, 2010 03:52 PM
I donīt know the people personally, but I do have some informations about their personal lives, but of course I cannot ask them.Yet, one of them is doing astrology himself, and he once mentioned both their Ascendant`s in an interview. No worry, I am going to do the work on my own; I just want some guidance along the way that is all.
The first one has a Pisces ASC; the (currently) rectified birthtime puts his ASC on 27 Pisces and MC on 29 Sagittarius.
The first date I checked was the year when his girlfriend pushed him to go to an audition for a dancing school, which he did (he had been studying to be a journalist before that), and he enrolled at that school, and has been working in this entertainment field ever since.
On that date he was having SA Midheaven squaring Sun, which rules his 6th house. SA Sun was also conjunct his Venus and Sun-Moon-mp. SA Mars was conjunct his Mercury (and Eros). SA Jupiter, ruler of his Midheaven, was conjunct his Mars. The next date I checked was when he took over his first role in Germany. He was having SA Jupiter conjunct ASC.
2 years later, he was "creating" his first original role here, and has been staying "around" since then. He was having SA Jupiter squaring Midheaven. He was also having SA Sun opposing Neptune. SA Mercury, his 3rd house ruler, was conjunct Venus, his 2nd house ruler, and conjunct his Sun-Moon-mp. SA Mars was conjunct his Sun. Then he met someone, and they quickly became a couple; it was a homosexual relationship. SA Uranus was conjunct his DESC. SA Pluto was opposing his Mercury (and Eros), his DESC-ruler (and conjunct the other guy`s ASC-ruler, Mars).
After several years they broke up. At that time he was having SA ASC square Saturn, the ruler of his 11th house. SA Mercury was conjunct Moon, his 5th house ruler, which doesn`t really look like a breakup aspect. (SA Mercury rules the 4th house, and isn`t it a house of endings, too?) SA NN was opposing his ASC, but maybe it was already to wide. Well, then SA NN would have been squaring his Midheaven.
What do you say? Could that be at least a possible ASC?
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 12:20 AM
It's possible, you definitely have the right idea with the angles. But DD, it's hard to take this seriously without providing a chart or even a birth date for me to see while going through your list. Like I said before, it takes so much time to go through this stuff, it's helpful if you can give me all the tools to work with.I'm going to recommend that you watch those Lauryn Delsack videos. Please, trust me, they will save both of us so much time and she doesn't miss any details. I think it's 3 videos in all. You look like you're on the right path. Firmly on the right path with this stuff. If you notice the list of questions that I asked Laura, you'll see so many personal issues addressed and there is an iceburg of information under each question that leads your eyes to certain places in the chart, not just the angles but you must also follow house rulerships with the planets (that's why equal houses really won't do). I don't use use asteroids or sabians when I rectify. I do know lots of reputable astrologers who definitely do use the sabians, but they usually wait until after the basic astrology is done. Last but not least, when you are writing out midpoints, do not use a dash, always use the slash. It is international protocol for symbolism. Example: Sun-Venus = wrong Sun/Venus = correct. Keep up the good work. IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 10:33 AM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 11:07 AM
Geo,"It's possible, you definitely have the right idea with the angles." I was studying the rectification chapter in Tyl`s book on solar arcs. " But DD, it's hard to take this seriously without providing a chart or even a birth date for me to see while going through your list." Here is the chart. "If you notice the list of questions that I asked Laura, you'll see so many personal issues addressed and there is an iceburg of information under each question that leads your eyes to certain places in the chart, not just the angles but you must also follow house rulerships with the planets (that's why equal houses really won't do)." Yes, I see that. And that is probably what makes my rectification difficult, as I do not have enough specific data. I usually only knew the years or months, so I guess that makes it probably nearly impossible to come to a result. The only dates I was having are: summer 1979: enrolling at dancing school 1986 moving to Germany
june 1988: creating of the original role in Germany
summer / autumn 1992: meeting and relationship, resulting in moving together in 1993
april 1996 receiving of an award
end 2005 / beginning 2006 final break-up (in 1998 there was a tough time in the relationship, too)
I guess it is just too little information. 
"st but not least, when you are writing out midpoints, do not use a dash, always use the slash." Yes, I know. Sorry, if I type quickly, this happens sometimes. But you`re right of course. IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 11:15 AM
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posted February 23, 2010 11:23 AM
Congratz Lara :* I got all excited for you reading this thread heheheheh...
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 01:06 PM
Lara,the ASC sign is certain, it is just the degree that is uncertain. But I agree without really exact days it is very difficult to pinpoint the degree. Even though Solar Arcs are valid with 30 minutes of orb, so maybe it is possible to at least approximately get an ASC degree. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 01:21 PM
DD  I don't want you to think I'm beating you up. The chart you provided doesn't have the numbers around it. You have to make it easier for the person who is helping you. When you're dealing with exact tight measurements, you have to see the numbers next to the planets and the important points. Please use the "Web Default" chart that comes up on Astro.com when you're doing this work. I must, must, must see the numbers around the zodiac. If you think I'm being a task master here, you don't wanna know what Noel Tyl would do if he saw this chart and you were asking for his help. LOOOOL!! As you can see from the "Solar Arcs" book, he doesn't even use aspect lines unless he draws them in himself. And to be fair to you I have to ask, do they add the numbers to the zodiac in Germany? I'm assuming you're in Germany because of the language on the chart and the German symbol for Uranus. IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 01:38 PM
Sorry, Geo.Actually that is the German default chart style, and I forgot to change it AGAIN. It is really bugging me. I will upload the right one. I appreciate your help very much.  In the meantime I have had a look at some dates in my own life, and it really works on my chart I guess:
Birth of my youngest brother: SA Sun square IC-MC-axis When my maternal grandfather moved in with us after having a stroke: SA Jupiter conjunct IC (absolutely precise actually) The death of my paternal grandfather did not click with SA, BUT TR Uranus was squaring my IC-MC-axis.
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 01:45 PM
Hi DD,I had a feeling so I'll let you off the hook for putting up that chart, but please put up one with the numbers around the zodiac. I hope they offer it over there. If they don't, I'm gonna have to have words with Alois over at Astro.com  IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 01:48 PM
I hope this chart is easier to read.
BTW I looked at the time of his breakup of a very long relationship, which happened somewhen between the end of 2005 and the beginning of 2006.
And TR Pluto was approximately squaring his ASC-DESC-axis during that interval. This might at least indicate a late Pisces ASC-degree I guess?
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 02:02 PM
The chart is fantastic, DD. Thank you.Here's a little test for you. Tell me what happened in his life when SA Mars was conjunct his ASC. I'll say it like this, tell me what happened in his life when these arcs happened: SA Mars=ASC SA ASC=Sun SA Pluto=DSC SA Uranus=DSC If you don't know this person, do you have a pretty decent biography for them? It's a good idea to have that because the way this chart is constructed, these are the best methods to test the ASC and MC. Now, the ASC and MC are almost exactly square (and at the Aries Point) it may be difficult for you to test the chart using mainly transits because whatever affects his ASC by transit will also affect his MC by transit and it could get confusing. It's always best to begin with the Solar Arcs and then fine tune with the transits. Because the Solar Arcs work with very tight contact, you can pretty much differentiate between specific degrees if you find that events don't match up exactly to the year. If you are a year or 2 off with the measurements in the Solar Arcs, you will no how to adjust the ASC, whether by a few degrees forward or backward. When the Solar Arcs match up to the events as precisely as you can get it, you'll see that the transits will match up as well. Also, with the transits - USE THE EMPHEMERIS IN THE BACK OF THE BOOK. IT IS INCREDIBLY VALUABLE FOR SAVING TIME!!  IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 02:05 PM
Wouldn't SA pluto be on the AC/DC in a break up? I don't understand the relevance of SA Pluto on the MC/IC.My SA NN on my AC when my grandfather died in 1978 might have been because he was such a prominent figure in my life and we still have a relationship even now... he talks to me probably once a week!!!! Thanks BELGZ IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 02:32 PM
Well, the problems is I do not have a decent biography, just pieces and bits of info here and there."SA Mars=ASC" I know he has a younger sister, so it is possible that the SA Mars = IC indicates her birth. I don`t know anything about an accident though. "SA ASC=Sun" When he was 17, he was enrolling to this dancing school, which changed his career totally and I guess personal life, too.
"SA Pluto=DSC" I don`t know for sure of course, but I guess it could either signify a relationship or the breaking up.
But when he was 22, his career in the Netherlands really started, as he was been seen on TV and from then on started to work with people like for example Tina Turner. SA Pluto would have been square Midheaven at that time I guess. "SA Uranus=DSC" Yeah, that date I know for certain. He met this other guy and very quickly they started a relationship, that lasted many years. At the time of the meeting and beginning of the relationship he was 30.
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