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Lara unregistered
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posted February 23, 2010 02:34 PM
It sadly all sounds a bit vague  I can't even rectify my brothers chart DD and i know his entire life of events lol IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 02:38 PM
Yeah, I know, Lara. That is the problem if you don`t have proper biography.Well, of course I could simply ask him.  Other people may ask for an autograph, and I could ask for his birthtime. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 03:04 PM
Lara,Your SA Node was not on your ASC when your grandfather died, check that again. SA MC was just past your Saturn the year before and SA MC was square your Node. Also, transiting Pluto was opposite your Saturn suggesting loss. SA Pluto to the MC/IC speaks to a strong change of status in your life or your father's (one of the parents) life. If it happens later in life, around the 50's or in your 60's, it usually speaks of retirement, a move of some sort, but it's huge change. DD, All of those Solar Arcs that you gave, if they match up to the year, especially the break up, then you might be on to something. But I don't want to completely give you a strong yes on this because you really don't have enough information about this person's life and it's just too time consuming. If you had a chart of some other celebrity who life events were very well known, I could help you out, but this is just too time consuming to guess at most of these. But I think you know what you're doing. Read the Solar Arc book carefully because everything in that book so strongly on point. Not that you haven't, but you need to know all of the things to look for when something like SA Mars=ASC happens. You can't just assume it's his sisters birth, you need more information for a stronger confirmation of that. It was a status change, but it also suggests an event that made him very angry or some kind of an illness, but you really need to know. Example: Michael Jackson's birth certificate is not accessible because the state of Indiana does not allow that information released to the public for anyone. Astrologer/Bassist Basil Fearrington (a student of Noel Tyl) played bass for a group that opened up for Michael Jackson during The History Tour. He asked Michael his birth time, Michael gave him a phone number to call for his personal secretary and she gave him the exact birth time of 11:53 PM. People argue his birth time up and down, but not many people have tested it properly. The time is correct and I urge you to take a look at the Solar Arcs in Michael Jackson's chart. You will see that on the date his hair caught fire, SA Mars=ASC exactly! Transiting Uranus conjuncts his DSC exactly. Mars is fire, Uranus is electricity, his hair caught fire when sparks from a controlled explosion ignited the hair products in his hair and burned him. Now it's a little different for Michael because his ASC is 16 degrees Gemini - an air sign. For your friend, it potential ASC is in Pisces - a water sign. Now, if it was a sister being born, is there anything going on with his IC during this same time period? Is there a hard transit to the IC? Is there a Solar Arc or transit to Mercury which rules his 3rd house of siblings and 4th house of the early home life? IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 03:12 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 03:18 PM
Yes, Geo, I agree, I have too little information, but I still think this time may be more appropriate than an earlier one (the break up didnīt fit with any of the other times I tested). Yes, SA Mars=ASC I know from own experience; when I was having that, being 2 years old, I thought it is a good idea to press my arm against the hot oven-door. I have had a burning mark for weeks!
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 03:41 PM
Lara,Try not to jump the gun with automatic negative thoughts about Pluto=MC whether by SA or Transit. It's a definite life changer, but not it's neutral. It all depends on what else is going on in your life and in your chart. Transiting Pluto will not reach your MC until 2012. Not only that, I think it's a great idea for you to delete all the other charts and take a good luck at what's happening in your correct chart right now. DO NOT USE EQUAL HOUSES! I repeat with love  DO NOT USE EQUAL HOUSES! The rulerships of your whole chart has changed from what you're used to. Where did you get bankruptcy from Pluto=MC??? Do you expect that to happen in your life? By the way, I did the bankruptcy thing, it was a blessing in disguise and it didn't show up with Pluto=MC. Start looking at your chart with fresh eyes. When I first started studying astrology, I miscalculated my chart and thought I was a different rising sign for about 6 years and when a more experienced astrologer came along and told me to pay attention to what I was doing, she showed me the correct ASC, I was amazed. You must remember that when you're using your new chart, all of the houses change as well.
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raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2550 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 23, 2010 04:04 PM
Solar Arcs are just progressions right?IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 04:09 PM
Raspberri,No. There are Secondary Progressions, Solar Arcs and Tertiary Progressions (Tertiaries are the ultimate hard core). Solar Arcs: http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Solar_Arc IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 04:29 PM
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 04:45 PM
OK, but you should be thinking about what the symbols are communicating. Pluto co-rules your 7th House of relationships, Capricorn rules YOUR career, father, and because it's Capricorn it rules business business, administrative energies, getting work done... Where do finances figure in there?When Pluto is in the picture, do not automatically assume death and destruction. This could actually turn out to be a career high point in your life, it could be one of the greatest promotions you've ever received. Because it opposes your IC, there could be real estate but that's not your first assumption. Your first assumptions are career change, geographic relocation, publicity and something to do with relationships, corporate concerns. If you Solar Arc your chart to a date in 2012 where transiting Pluto is conjunct your MC, what other Solar Arcs and other transits do you see? You can begin to build the picture from that point. Usually it's the other way around, you start with a Solar Arc and then look for other Arcs, Indirect Arcs and major transits from the outer planets, but you seem to be focusing on the Pluto=MC transit, so check that first. And don't forget Solar Arcs to midpoints (Indirect Arcs). IP: Logged |
raspberri Knowflake Posts: 2550 From: venus Registered: Jan 2010
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posted February 23, 2010 05:01 PM
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posted February 23, 2010 05:04 PM
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posted February 23, 2010 05:16 PM
Dear Lara Pluto in aspect to my moon is bringing is deep emotional changes. x o x AmiIP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 06:17 PM
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1142 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 23, 2010 06:28 PM
Hi Lara,Sun/Moon is important for many reasons, mainly because it combines the masculine Sun and feminine Moon. Yet the energy is different from Venus/Mars. Remembering that the most sensitive points in the chart are Sun, Moon, ASC-DSC Axis and MC-IC Axis, the events will hold more importance in terms of your core energy (Sun) and your core needs (Moon). As for why people use SR's (Does SR mean Solar Return?) as opposed to Solar Arcs, I couldn't tell you. I just know that in my experience once I learned what the plain old natal chart can tell you once you really grasp what's going on, I don't need any other chart. I don't even offer Solar Return charts in my practice. When you know what you're doing and you're organized properly, the natal chart will put your entire life on display in Macy's window...NAKED!! That's why I don't post my chart online. IP: Logged |
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posted February 23, 2010 06:46 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7061 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 24, 2010 03:03 AM
I agree with Geo.I like to look at various charts, but it is mainly for fun. Actually the natal chart and the progressed or directed chart is enough. It tells you everything.
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popcorn Knowflake Posts: 2222 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted February 25, 2010 08:11 PM
congratulate Lara to your new ASC . So intresting tread. Geocosmic Valentine, Where have you been?. So much good information you give to all of us here.. Tertiary progression are one more I must looking at. IP: Logged | |