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posted February 23, 2010 11:50 AM         

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Has anyone had...Jupiter or saturn square North node when they conceived and actually had a healthy baby?

Astrologer Yucel sugen claims that if you conceive a baby within 3 degrees of jupiter or saturn square, opposite or conjunct north node you will have an unhealthy baby..

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posted February 23, 2010 01:45 PM         

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Transit Jupiter square natal north node or vice versa?

I had no aspects between neither, but in just transits, Jupiter was conjunct the north node.

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posted February 23, 2010 01:46 PM         

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Saturn was too wide to trine my north node, too. And my natal Saturn had no aspects with transit north node.

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posted February 23, 2010 03:12 PM         

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Aya,

You never told us if your baby was born healthy or not. Was your child born healthy???

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posted February 23, 2010 03:15 PM         

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i work with chronically ill children, it seems a great many of them have early july birthdays. just something i noticed through the years and found pecular.

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posted February 23, 2010 04:03 PM         

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Transit north node was conjunct my natal Jupiter when my daughter was born. Health was excellent.

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posted February 23, 2010 04:24 PM         

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cpn_edgar_winner,

I once accompanied a neighbor to the hospital in an ambulance and the EMT told me that in his experience, and all of the EMT's pretty much agree, people born in August are the most accident prone. That kind of fits in with chronic illness discovery. I wonder why that is also.

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posted February 23, 2010 04:25 PM         

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Hi Belgz,

Can anyone prove him right? We're talking statistics again. Where is his proof that he's correct?

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posted February 23, 2010 04:46 PM         

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well, let me clarify by saying, those born signifacantly premature with severe health problems. a lot of birthdays very close, first week of july.

not necessarily the shaken babies or the abuse victims. or older kids with later onset of medical problems...those vary more.

i would say roughly half of our patients have early July birthdays.

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posted February 23, 2010 05:34 PM         

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i only know 1 person with an unhealthy baby and her daughter had 1 leg longer than the other... I forget the name of the illness but her mother at the time of falling pregnant had transit saturn exactly conjunct north node. She has 8 other kids.

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posted February 23, 2010 06:25 PM         

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Hi there...

My second son was born with his Saturn conjunct my north node (2) and he was and still is perfectly healthy.

In saying that... his Jupiter and Venus also the trined conjunction.(1).

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posted February 23, 2010 06:54 PM         

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Belgz,

I just read your first post and understand it differently than what I first thought. He's saying that when you CONCEIVE during Saturn=Node or Jupiter=Node the baby won't be healthy. Wow, well I couldn't tell you. It's hard enough figuring out when people are ACTUALLY BORN in this business of astrology let alone when they were conceived.

But I find it strange that he include Jupiter=Node in that group. Jupiter is usually the Great Benefic. Hmm...oh well.

I'd think it would be pretty easy not to get pregnant during a Saturn=Node transit because it usually suggests a time of loneliness or having to do things alone or very serious meetings. But where there's a will there's a way with all things.

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posted February 23, 2010 07:09 PM         

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Ooops read that wrongly...

Although Saturn was conjunct my partner's north node when we conceived... does the theory work for males chart's during conception?

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posted February 24, 2010 04:19 PM         

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So far (touch wood) he was born healthy. The delivery, however, was a different matter. He was too big for my pelvis so I had to have an emergency c-section.

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posted February 24, 2010 05:52 PM         

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*edited again*

I've checked the transits of my mom of when I was possibly conceived - I was born at 23rd March 1985, so I've checked the date of 23rd June 1984 (9 months). Transit retrograde Jupiter was oppose my mom's North Lunar Node (0º15' applying).

I will try to explain the general conditions of my health - my health has always been a bit weak, but there were never anything serious at all. I've always been slightly underweight (was kind of a stick when I was little and eat little - mom had a bit of hard time making me eat lol), lack of energy, and have belly problems sometimes (stress/wrong food = toilet lol), and there were also a few other minor problems in my health's history (like minor anemia), but then nothing serious that requires long or troublesome treatment ever happened (unless we count the braces), and I'm generally healthy/resistant (which I'm glad about).

There were actually a few reasons that might have affected my development of when I was inside my mom thought - my mom wasn't very happy during that moment of her life, and she was also told by a doctor to eat less coz of being slightly overweight (which was a lie). I think that if it wasn't coz of these, I would have had a better health.

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posted February 25, 2010 12:04 AM         

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OK So I checked the conception chart of my daughter.

Lucky for you I know the exact day!

But, alas, Saturn is trine NN @ 6 degrees, not the best orb for a trine, nevertheless,
Jupiter is opposed to NN, but not in orb, it's 8 degrees which is a bit much it seems.

She was/has been 100% healthy.

Ooh, but I so wanted her conception chart to show a Saturn conj Jupiter square NN! Haha just to disprove that silly comment!

Sorry belgz

I know it doesn't help much but I was born with a near exact Saturn square NN, and I've never had health problems.

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posted February 25, 2010 12:09 AM         

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He says that people usually will successfully fall pregnant when jupiter or saturn trine north node. This is only for the mothers chart, not the father.

He claims that if you want a healthy child or a child that wont bring you problems you need to make sure that you do not conceive during stressful aspects of jupiter or saturn to your natal north node.

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posted February 25, 2010 12:10 AM         

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YES!

I have N SATURN sq T NN (0') and i had a VERY HEALTHY baby!

My middle son was born on his due date under the New Moon (sun & moon exact conjunct)

I breastfed him for years and he never gets ill!

I don't really wanna prove anyone wrong though.

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posted February 25, 2010 12:11 AM         

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during stressful aspects of jupiter or saturn to your natal north node.

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Is this for transiting Jup/Sat to your natal?

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posted February 25, 2010 12:11 AM         

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Looking at everyones chart who is ok without serious health issues they were all conceived under good aspects between these planets.

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posted February 25, 2010 12:12 AM         

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T NN 18' cancer
N Saturn 18' aries

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posted February 25, 2010 12:20 AM         

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Lara, honey,

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I have N SATURN sq T NN (0') and i had a VERY HEALTHY baby!

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Isn't this supposed to be regarding the child's conception chart, i.e. "Dirty Deed Day" ??

And if so, come on! Children are conceived every single day in every single time zone. I think his theory is just laughable. That's why i DID want to prove him wrong. Well on the day she was made transiting Jupiter was in a wide opposition to transiting NN, 8 degrees. If only it could've been under 3, I would've made my point

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posted February 25, 2010 12:23 AM         

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On the other hand, if it is about transits to your natal, then Lara disproved it

And........
For me on Dirty Deed Day,
transiting Jupiter was square my natal NN EXACT!

Haha! Now I'm hoping he was going by transits!

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posted February 25, 2010 12:26 AM         

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The only famous person i know with an unhealthy child is Katie Price aka Jordan.

I dont know her time of birth but her date of birth is... 22 may 1978

She had her son 12 days over due and I calculated her time of conception from an online due date calculator that calculates conception from the time of birth minus 12 days.

I got 17th august 2001.

North node is within 2 degrees of jupiter and jupiter is square her node by 3 degrees.

Does anyone know anyone with a child that has health issues?

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posted February 25, 2010 12:28 AM         

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i checked the transits of the day that i conceived my youngest son and i had saturn transit square north node. my son is a gemini with leo sun and virgo rising. i always thought it was because of the virgo rising that he would be a sickly child. to list the ailments/conditions he has suffered in the last 3 1/2 years:
severe eczema (he actually came out with it on his face)-he was taking prescriptions for it including topical steroids and antihistimine
severe asthma (hospitalized 4 times for minimum 2 day, max 5 days when they wanted to intubate him. he was literally dying)
2 severe staph (it caused huge boils all over his body)
hospitalized for rotovirus for a week when 18 mos old.
aspergers syndrome
ADHD

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