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Topic: Is astrology an art or simply playing god?
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enchantress299
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Registered: May 2009
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posted February 28, 2010 09:02 PM
 
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Since I am too lazy to read the whole story of the two births, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I doubt a doctor would let a c-section happen if it was deemed too dangerous for the fetuses. Perhaps autism & heart problems in the babies were inevitable.
I'm in agreement. I was about to say that the autism probably had nothing to do with the fact that this woman had a c-section. A lot of women have c-sections (not due to astrology) and they don't necessarily end up with autistic kids. That's a bit of a leap in logic... I'm assuming the doctor didn't allow this person to give birth so early that it would be detrimental to the child. I'll bet that's against some sort of medical ethics... IP: Logged |
karena
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posted February 28, 2010 09:10 PM
People can't use astrology to CONTROL things such as child birth. They'll 100% find they're wrong. But it doesn't mean astrology isn't accurate. I've found people 100% fail in the end when they try to use some knowledge or skills to CONTROL things that essentially can't be controlled. It seems to me that you can use astrology to better understand yourself or help others, but when it comes to controlling your whole life it would say no to you. I know a friend who is very good at chinese astrology and I find her very accurate, but she cannot control her daughter's fate in that she had chosen a gay to be her daughter's husband. It is also her fate to be a master in chinese astrology and use it to choose a gay to be her son-in-law. You can't use astrology to change your own fate, but you can use it to change your own heart. And you can change your fate by changing your heart. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 921
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 02:00 AM
So wouldn't you agree that trying to pick a wedding date and so on is the same thing?When i got married in 2004 I got a magi astrologer to pick the best date and we seperated within 48 hours. I got married at the best time but yet it proved to be false. I know people who have had the best marriages and have had their moons and suns in square aspect and got married under neptune transits. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
Moderator Posts: 2751
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 02:01 AM
Alot of Hollywood stars have c-sections because they do not want to go through the pain of labor.I've always thought this very unfair, because if you are a regular Jane like me, you have to at least TRY and deliver natural, that is what they told me. They made me labor for 35 hours and push for 3 before deciding I did indeed, need a c-section. You won't hear too many stories like that in Hollywood. My daughter's due date is March 10th. They told her that she cannot go even one day past her due date. The reason, they stated, is that there is a higher chance of merconium floating in the amniotic fluid which can cause a bacterial infection. (merconium is baby poop) so we are currently trying to decide which day she should be induced. I was pulling for the 7th, thinking of numerology, but I haven't looked at transits. Anyway, it just goes to show the difference in times. I was due with her on Feb 14, she was exactly 2 weeks late, coming on the 28th, but thereby changing her sign (and her destiny, I would imagine!) from Aqua to Pisces. I am not against science, but some of these things just creep me out, like being able to chose the sex, and the hair and eye color. Messing with genetics just seems like a recipe for disaster, but that is just my opinion. I think all this will eventually turn all the way around again, and more and more people will have babies at home with midwives, the way it used to be. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 921
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 02:05 AM
Oh i forgot to mention I was born 3 weeks early.I was meant to be a leo baby but my chart aligns perfectly with my mothers and my fathers.My sun and mercury is exactly conjunct my mothers ASC and exactly trine my dads moon. My mother gemini sun is exactly conjunct my gemini moon and north node. My dads sun is in my first house. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
Moderator Posts: 2751
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 02:10 AM
@ EnchantressYou are right. When having my third child, she was a scheduled c-section, since MOST times, if you've had one, the rest are also taken that way. It is against the law to do a scheduled c-section before 38 weeks gestation, UNLESS there is some pressing medical reason to do it. And the doctors are quite strict on this, they made me wait until exactly 38 weeks, on the dot, not a day before. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 921
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 02:15 AM
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I am not against science, but some of these things just creep me out, like being able to chose the sex, and the hair and eye color. Messing with genetics just seems like a recipe for disaster, but that is just my opinion.
Really? Can you actually pick hair and eye colour? LOL I haven't heard of that before. I am someone who would definitely prefer a C- section and I will do anything to get it. Only because I've watched 2 of my friends give birth and I am petrified of doing it and scared of what will happen down there. But I wont pick a date and I would want to do it when my baby wants to come out. If i could carry twins and do it in 1 go rather than twice i would want that as well. But I am of course going to be happy with one as well. As long as its healthy. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 1718
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 03:03 AM
Belgz, I think I had a very pretty wedding chart for my first marriage too(not that I actually went out of my way to do it) and the marriage was a complete wreck by the end of the first year because the relationship sucked. So yeah, you're right....it doesn't mean you'll have a good marriage if the chart is all pretty lolIt's funny, because we had a wedding chart with Sun trine Moon closely (2 degrees), in his sun sign (Cappy) and mine (Virgo)...Oooho sooooo preeetttyyyy...ohhh soooo sucked 
And some other nice-looking stuff which I never got. And it was romantic too, we eloped in the mountains and got married, blah blah blah.
Meh. I don't go for planning events like that.
Closest I've gotten is casting a first meeting chart, but that's like after the fact lol. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
Moderator Posts: 2751
From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 03:08 AM
Hi Belgz
I'm not sure if you can do it yet, but I watched a show on that, and it's coming.Yeah, it hurts having them natural, but the healing is much quicker then having the c-section. With the c-section you have your stomach stapled shut, and those staples have to be removed, and ouch, that isn't fun. Plus the scar I have from multiple c-sections is just horrible, it looks like Freddy Krueger escaped from my innards or something, IDK, if I could of dialated like a normal person, I wished I wouldn't of had the c-sections. Believe it or not, the actual pushing out doesn't hurt like you would think, they numb you up pretty good, what hurts is the labor pains, they are just God awful. I get your twin theory, but my sister in law had twins, and she was seriously suicidal for awhile there afterwards. When one baby was asleep the other was awake and crying, and vice-versa, OMG, that poor girl looked like death warmed over for three months, it was horrible. Plus her stomach was SO huge, she had really awful stretch marks that NEVER ever went away, so, I guess you never really have the best of both worlds, you know? I went in the room with my friend 3 times. The last time she had the baby in 45 minutes. I mean, that just isn't fair, lol! She nearly spits them out, one sneeze and they seemingly shoot across the room. Not me, it's a struggle, depends on how you are build and genetics too. I was the first woman in my family to have a baby natural (the first one, actually, the second, the first was stillborn early) but she was very small. The next one they say there was no way I would of ever been able to push out because he weighed over 8 pounds. Ouch. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 1718
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 03:28 AM
When my mom had one of my sisters, it was like a month early and she came out in about 30 mins lol. Mum and my dad went for a check-up at the doctor before having dinner and next thing you know my sister was like, HERE I COME! ... literally in 20-30 mins it was over. My mother said she didn't have time to really scream in agony because it was over too fast.
Bless her, she went through 18 hours of that with me lolIP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 921
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 03:34 AM
Was your sister an aries?IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
Knowflake Posts: 1718
From: Bay Area, CA
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 04:03 AM
Nope. Gemini, Taurus Moon.  My brother was as late as I was (3-4 weeks), he's an Aqua with Virgo Moon, Sadge rising, and Mars in Aries. IP: Logged |
amowls*
Knowflake Posts: 936
From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 01, 2010 06:58 AM
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I've always thought this very unfair, because if you are a regular Jane like me, you have to at least TRY and deliver natural, that is what they told me.
Plenty of "normal" women have planned c-sections, it's very popular now because then ob-gyns can plan vacations lol and women can have a baby when it suits them. It's not just for Hollywood. and Belgz, c-sections aren't a cake walk either, a lot of people say it's worse for you and you need a lot more recovery time. It's a very invasive procedure. Anyway, I was an unplanned c-section. They couldn't detect my heartbeat and started flipping out and it almost killed my mother. IP: Logged | |
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