posted March 05, 2010 07:18 PM         

My SWINDLE in Aries in my 4th house
- cj. Amor (1°)
- cj. Triumf (3°)
- sextile Nessus (2°)
- sextile Stereoskopia (2°)
- squ. Fanatica (1°)
- squ. Sisyphus (2°)
- opp. Lovejoy (1°)
- opp. Indulgentia (1°)
- opp. Adonis (2°)
>>>Real life experience: The guys who fall in love with me/obsess with me - and the ones who I find most attractive as well ("Adonis") ... They always cheat or "swindle", at least a little bit. The most important and passionate realtionships I had never were free of some more or less heavy "swindle-problems" - and I experienced several disappointments in this regard, sometimes easy to forgive, sometimes really hurtful.

My LIE in Aries in my 5th house
- cj. Ceres (2°)
- cj. Juno (5°)
- sextile N.N. (5°)
- trine Venus (5°)
- trine Valentine (ex.)
- squ. Mars (1°)
- opp. Aphrodite (ex.)
- opp. Moon/Venus (ex.)
- opp. Jupiter (2 °)
- opp. Osiris (2°)
- opp. Union (4°)
- opp. Toro (2°)
- opp. Flammario (2°)
>>> Gosh, this is scary! The "Swindle"-Intepretation from above fits here as well ... it's just ... increased here. (Again: in Aries, a male sign - I honestly declare, it definitely had been the guys who have been lying, not me! No, really: They admitted it, each of them, when it became too obvious...)

My PINOCCHIO in (manipulative) Scorpio in my (secretive) 12th house - hahahaaarrr
- sextile Eros (4°)
- sextile Vesta (ex.)
- trine Vertex (2°)
- trine Destinn (2°)
- trine Aura (2)
- trine Hera (3°)
- trine Pallas (1°)
- trine Talent (2°)
- squ. Lust (4°)
>>> Well: Obviously I know how to apply some tricks as well ... but I do it gently and dsicreetly, "for your good"

My MUNCHHAUSEN in Pisces in my 3rd house
- cj. IC/opp. MC (1°)
- cj. Hera (3°)
- sextile Anteros (ex.)
- sextile Sirene (ex.)
- sextile Saturn (2°)
- trine Sun (5°)
- trine Sappho (4°)
- trine Leviathan (4°)
- squ. Stereoskopia (ex.)
- squ. Nessus (2°)
>>> Well, obviously I try to identify your weak spots first, then lure you in with sweet words and sometimes fantastic, highly romanticized or idealistic stories. A tendency ... to exxagerate, to say the least. But I do it softly, haha! No mean intentions!

posted September 26, 2010 10:28 AM         

His Swindle square my Moon (0'08)
His Lie opposition my Moon (0'54)

So pretty ugly T-square involving his Swindle and Lie and my Moon!

Plus his Lie conjunct my Mercury, but a bit widely (2'43)

Some soft aspects:
His Swindle sextile my Venus (0'40)

Theres no hard aspects to my Dejanira, but one soft one:

His Sun trine my Dejanira (2'24)

Natally he has Lie trine Mercury (1'27)
And we have Mercury trine Mercury (1'16)

Simple question: Should i be worried?

I've been involved with this guy for almost a year and our relationship has been swinging between romantic and friendship. I really dont know what the future for us is going to be. We have very strong understanding for each other, but i am sometimes worried about his honesty. So far it has seemed that it is nothing too drastic, little white lies every now and then. He always admits if gets caught of lying. Sometimes he is even brutally honest, or maybe child-like honest.

posted September 26, 2010 02:12 PM         

his swindle cj my Venus...yup!he stole my heart

my swindle cj his saturn...hmm i must have lied to him in the past perhaps...

my Lie cj his uranus/Ceres.

John and his brother:brother has karma cj swindle cj DSC( of course..). JOhnīs swindle cj brothe+rs amor.
in their draconic:Jīs brotherīs nessus/lie was cj Johnīs DSc.

in composite of me and Jīs brother: sWindle cj Venus.and saturn cj Lie cj sun!

swindle and lIE connects to lilith and Amor in bad aspect.

i think that these two asteroids - LIE SWINDLE-are indeed so very important.

in our draconic Jīs brotherīs LIE/NESSUS was cj my IC.
his karma/swindle cj my Neptune/ruler of draconic moon/kiron

posted September 26, 2010 02:22 PM         

these two are only troublesome when aspects like of those with the brother appears..

lie and swindle both in aspect hard are the ones to worry about only!

posted September 26, 2010 06:39 PM         

My Lie in Virgo in my 6th..

Pisces fella

has his swindle in Leo, yeap conjunct my stellium

His lie conjuncts my Mc :O