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Belage
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posted March 02, 2010 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
I think this particular asteroid deserves its own thread.

If you share a double whammy of asteroid SWINDLE conjunction with Saturn with someone in synastry, and in the composite, these two are also conjunct, what does that mean?

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raspberri
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posted March 02, 2010 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Okay I'm sorry, lol.

He was just calling someone a swindler.
Excuse my humor

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Belage
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posted March 02, 2010 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
For those of us that do not want to watch, what is the relevancy?

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Diana
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posted March 02, 2010 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Are you born close together? If you are, it means nothing, really.

Now, I have swindle conjunct someone's venus (3*) and satuen (1.3*) and they have their swindle conjunct my moon (1.29*) and venus(2*). So the venus/swindle is a double whammy. They are in different signs and conjunct personal planets. It's a bit worrisome, because it is a friend of mine and it sounds awful.


What I'm trying to say for you is that since they are conjunct and hit an outer planet, it probably just means you were born close together.

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Belage
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posted March 02, 2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Born close together? Not at all.

I am talking having my Saturn conjunct his Swindle and his Saturn conjunct my swindle. And in composite, Saturn and swindle are conjunct.

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Lara
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posted March 02, 2010 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes, SWINDLE really works - my ex had all kinds of swindle aspects with me :S

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amowls*
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posted March 02, 2010 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I have Swindle conjunct Neptune by 1 and with an ex of mine, my Swindle is conjunct his Venus by 2. Did I "swindle" him? No. He was flirty with me, I developed a huge crush on him, dumped my long term boyfriend to date him and then HE dumped me after a month. So some would say HE swindled ME lol.

My current boyfriend has Swindle conjunct ASC exactly. He's not much of a swindler.

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raspberri
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posted March 02, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO!

lara you are hilarious!

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Diana
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posted March 02, 2010 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I've done some research into couples that I know. Most of them had swindle conjunct, opp, or square venus.

Maybe it means you steal someone's heart.


To the OP: Sorry, I thought you meant your swindles were conjunct in synastry, not in composite. That would mean you are born close in time (most likely).

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amowls*
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posted March 02, 2010 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Aw Diana.

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Diana
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posted March 02, 2010 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
Was that romantic?! haha, I'm such a swindler!!

I'm serious that it could mean that, btw.

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posted March 02, 2010 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
haha raspberri LOL

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posted March 02, 2010 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
My son has Swindle conjunct his mercury. He's going to be a con man, I know it!

I have swindle conjunct my Jupiter in the 2nd house. Interesting. Could I con multiple banks or something? Ooh, you guys got me all excited now! Why am I looking for a normal job anyway?

Interstingly, my brother has Swindle in his 2nd house, too, and when we were young we were always plotting on how to become successful con artists. You know, like in the BBC-show "Hustle". I thought it would be exciting


On a completely random side note, my boyfriend has Stout in his 2nd house. True enough, the Guinness has cost him a lot of money already, he could singlehandedly save the brewery from bankrupcy...

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posted March 02, 2010 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
dude conned me for 16,000 dollars last year.
his swindle was conj my asc by 2 deg.

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posted March 02, 2010 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have Swindle in 19'05 Virgo in 1st sextile Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd


Swindle could be relative perception.
People that are skeptical of Astrology and other metaphysical subjects will view people that charge for Astrological and other metaphysical services as swindlers.


Also Swindle is the name of some type of Chess strategy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swindle_%28chess%29


so Swindle might be strategy
that involves coming from a losing position to win or tie


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posted March 02, 2010 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message
I still want to become a con artist...

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Belage
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posted March 03, 2010 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
Good point, Diana!

I could see how SWINDLE making aspects to someone's Venus could mean stealing heart.

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raspberri
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posted March 03, 2010 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
OMG this guy has his Swindle on my Venus!

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belgz
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posted March 03, 2010 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Oh no I have swindle conjunct my ascendant!

I must be the "ultimate" con artist

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mintgirl123
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posted March 03, 2010 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message
ok is it bad that my pinnochio and my swindle conjunct my s/o's IC by like less than 1 n half degrees?

But I'm really honest with him.
Omg what does this mean lol.

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popcorn
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posted March 03, 2010 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
My exhusband had swindle on my pluto in house 2.. When I leave and we divorced he get everything. I start with one empty flat. Later I saw he in the year we be married save money to his self whitout my cognizance hmmm.

My swindle was ounspect to his chart.

My on and off relationship. This mans swindle was in conj his owns moon and in conj to my destinn (2)..Maybe he swindle my destiny..

I've always say he swindle his owns feelings. He was not kind to his self.


I've swindle conj someones destinn(1). His swindle conj my MC/eris(0-1)..We swindle each ours destiny in our life...YES..maybe we give us a chance in one another life...

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posted March 03, 2010 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent observations.

Asteroid SWINDLE is exactly opposed to Asteroid MIDAS in the chart of Ramalinga Raju, who defrauded his own publicly listed company Satyam Computers for 2 billion dollars, the greatest corporate cash fraud in Indian history.

@Belage: SWINDLE to Saturn double whammy means you both had swindled each other atleast once in a past life, and in this lifeline you will either
a) Easily spot other swindlers
b) Get swindled together if not careful
c) Be wary of each other due to the past lifeline effect.

Alia, I am very sorry to hear that you were duped of 16K.... he has earned 160K worth of karmic debts to you now, and destroyed his evolution ths lifeline as well.

SWINDLE in synastry must be checked along with Asteroid LIE. It is a combination of these two that is very troublesome.

@Aya: Swindle conj Mercury can also mean the person becomes a superb fraud investigator.

@Raymond: Good point about the strategic side of SWINDLE. It is possible that top Poker players also have strong SWINDLE aspects?
I would emphasize on a max of 2 degree orb for this Asteroid though.

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posted March 03, 2010 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

well...Muhammad Ali has Mercury oppose retrograde Swindle with 1'53 orb

He was known for the "Rope a Dope"

His Swindle semisquare Neptune with 36 minutes of arc.

He has Mercury sesquiquadrate Neptune with 1'17 orb (I use 1'30 orb for semisquare,sesquiquadrate)


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DD
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posted March 03, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
SWINDLE is retrograde in 25 Gemini in my 7th house.
LIE is retrograde in 20 Gemini in my 7th house.

SWINDLE opposes my SUN and MERCURY on 25 Sag. But I think LIE does not have any aspects.

EDIT:
Oh I was unintentionally lying.

LIE Is sextile my Chiron on 20 Aries, and trine my DNA and KASSANDRA on 20 Libra.

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posted March 03, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Wooow.
He he. My exhusband and I've
His Swindle sextil my Lie 1-2
His Swindle conj my pluto 0-1
His Lie trine my Swindle/persephone o-1
My Karma sextil his Swindle 0-1

DW swindle and lie .

I cant say I been hurt about that he lied/swindled to me and in the end I always knew what he done

My swindle conj my persephone 0-1
My swindle square my moon/nessus 0-1, I'm not always nice to my self either, I know
My swindle trine my osiris 1-2

My lie sextile my pluto 0-1 virgo
My lie sextile my kaali 0-1
My lie trine my karma 2 scorpio
My lie trine my dejanira in scorpio exact
My lie sextile my DNA 1-2 taurus
My lie conj my cupido 2-3
My lie conj my thelephus 8'cancer

OK I understand I would be able to lie to everyone inculding my self. I see I should be a very good psychologist if I want. Sorry but now it's to late.

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