posted March 04, 2010 08:17 PM            

so-called stressful aspects can be good for being productive,pushing one to act

Uranian Astrologers and Cosmobiologists focus mainly on conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,and sesquiqadrate. They view them as event-oriented aspects. Those are the only aspects that are usually used with midpoints.

it is said that T-square (n aspect pattern that consist of an opposition of 2 objects being squared by a 3rd object) is common in successful people.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 05, 2010 04:17 AM            

It`s pretty sure that someone with Moon-Saturn aspects will have a rather serious personality, but does that mean they have to be unhappy?
Even though I could also thinkt hat sometimes the feeling of responsibility gets just too much and prevents a certain "lightheartedness".

posted March 05, 2010 09:02 AM              

I think that your kikx of moon-saturn just means the need to balance between saturn matters and moon matters.

not a bad aspect i guess.

i have saturn kikx kiron.

" There is an element of paradox or a riddle involved in the relation between the conservative, traditional, practical element in your life and the maverick who seeks and sometimes finds keys to healing through a higher, holistic understanding. You may experience this as two factors of yourself that you find difficult to reconcile, or you could experience the dynamic within a relationship where you adopt a role of the conventional, medical skeptic encountering someone whose success you are inclined to dismiss because they seem disturbingly unconventional; or you might be the maverick being disregarded or discredited by conventional medical authorities. It will require much adapting, and frequent adjustments, but the effort to integrate the two is a creative growth process and will be a �growing edge� experience all the way."

i also have:

"Saturn conjunct Pluto
You may be very serious and have a dark, brooding side that is obsessed with control and power. Your burden of responsibility may be great, and lessons of self-discipline and responsibility might come through profound experiences of loss. Necessity will require you to eliminate nonessentials and focus on the deepest, most crucial elements of any situation. Loss or absence of a father could force you to accept adult responsibility at an early age. You are likely an exceptionally canny and effective business person."

posted March 05, 2010 10:01 AM            

I won't lie. I have horrible luck with relationships. Guys always want me to be the clingy, damsel in distress and I'm just not that kind of girl. I don't get obsessed over anyone I date (at least not yet), but they do become very obsessed with me. I had to be an adult when I was still a child because I was abandoned by my father and witnessed the death of many relatives before my tenth birthday. But despite the pain, I had some wonderful experiences in my life through sheer hard work and persistence.

My brother has moon square saturn both in cardinal signs along with the moon square pluto, yet his life is fantastic! He has the kind of life I can only dream of. A single aspect does not doom you to a life of unhappiness. It's up to you to create your own happiness.

Serial killers often have seemingly "perfect" chart--meaning they have lots of "easy" aspects. Does this mean their life is wonderful? Clearly not seeing as how they have the urge to go around killing people.

posted March 05, 2010 10:18 AM            

I`ll start with my Venus in Cancer, 12th house. I am very sensitive and descrete and yes, i had hidden love affairs. I feel for almost every creature and i cry easily. This Venus squares my Pluto in Libra, all my affairs been intense, i loved passionately and my jealousy is terrible. Pluto is in 3rd and my words are powerful and not always soothing, i tend to speak first and think later, it`s something i can`t control, like a lava errupting. Moon in Aries is adding more stubborness and lack of tact. They all keep in mind my moments of anger, some forgive me, some not. About Moon squaring Venus i can say it makes me react weird when i am in love . Instead of being nice, loving i tend to avoid it by being nasty, hating is loving... weird. Moon opposing Pluto is my emotional reaction when i feel betrayed and when i feel i lose power. Yes, i want to be in control when in a relationship. It makes me feel safe to feel my partner`s love stronger than mine BUT thus i can easily get bored and lose interest, i swear i can feel like my love is dying. I hate it when he`s making me jealous , it hurts terribly but this way i am also assured my feelings still exist, the way i feel when i am jealous is so hurtful and intense so yes, thisw is love. That`s why when i need a confirmation of HIS feelings i feel the need tomake him jealous in turn, a very bad idea as the relationship starts deteriorating.

posted March 05, 2010 11:15 AM            

Sun conjunct Ixion - '05
Sun quincunx Saturn - '13
Sun conjunct Quaoar - 2'58

Moon trine Quaoar - '49
Moon trine Sun - 2'10
Moon trine Ixion - 2'15
Moon sextile Sedna - 1'06

In Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude):
Moon square Saturn - '49
Moon square Jupiter - 2'12
Moon square Neptune - 4'22
Jupiter conjunct Neptune - 6'34
(T-Square)
Moon semisquare Eris - '08
(Moon,Saturn,Eris in 8th harmonic triangle)

Sun oppose Sedna - '44
Sun conjunct Quaoar - 1'45
Sun quincunx Saturn - '33
Sun quincunx Varuna - '05
Sun trine Mars - 4'02

Moon trine Sun - 1'22
Moon trine Ixion - 2'29
Moon sextile Sedna - '39

The T-Squares can be used for motivation,being productive

Sedna,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion are transneptunian dwarf planet candidates

Eris is transneptunian dwarf planet like Pluto

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 05, 2010 11:35 AM            

Amowls,
Agree about the square being an ambition driver.

The best aspect for happiness if there are no negative aspects? Cannot say for ladies but for a guy:

Aries ascendant trine
Sun conjunct Venus in 5th Leo
trine Jupiter in Sag 9th,
with Mars conj Moon in Taurus first house.
This guy CANNOT BE SAD even if he tries to be.

posted March 05, 2010 11:41 AM            

moon 6,49 gemini
merk 7,59 virgo
uran 8,33 virgo
saturn 3,3 pisces

I both hate and love my t-square. I hate my feeling sometimes. Negative and critical and in periods of depressed thinking. I also sometimes thanks my t-square because without the aspect I never be there I am today.

In time when I feel the deep happines in my life I try to take me down. I don't dare me feel happy because I think it not meant to be to me . I don't dare becase I know they never will last.

For me it feels the life is hard work. I can take critical and negative things. I dont care. Troubles and problems can give me a kick. Hard work can give me a kick. I want challange. My son and daughter say the best for me are hard work. When I'm free I've always in thought to start something new. There is always bigger and bigger challange project in my head. When I definitely know what I should do I dont only talk about it I realize it.

If someone give me positive feedback or a compliment. I press me down self.

I've no need for confirmation at all.

Leo sun conj/AC

posted March 05, 2010 10:30 PM            

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Pluto is the scariest planet ,to me lol. Having it square something with delicate emotions like the moon or Venus PLUS having Mars in there--as a square --sounds hard.
If you had this in cardinal signs would it be much harder than fixed or mutable signs?
Is that always something that must be taken in to account? Ami

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posted March 05, 2010 10:34 PM            

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Serial killers often have seemingly "perfect" chart--meaning they have lots of "easy" aspects. Does this mean their life is wonderful? Clearly not seeing as how they have the urge to go around killing people.

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posted March 05, 2010 11:38 PM            

alright, positive aspects i suppose would be contained in the boomerang: my pluto sextile neptune.. however those semisextile my poor uranus in scorpio, so even that's not easy! yet it's the tip of the boomerang so is supposed to *be* the outlet. however being part of my t-square (to sun and moon) makes it difficult. sun sextiles my neptune, trines my pluto and moon my trines my NN and saturn. i'm trying to figure out how to BE my pluto, especially now that it's transiting my 1st and will be for a long time.

so if i get your theory right, focusing on my pluto, NN, neptune and to some degree my uranus should help get that stuck energy moving?